Irad Ortiz apprently riding Uncle Sigh. If Nakatani was consulted about his availability, it may hint that Dance With Fate is running.

Dance With Fate will run.

Bri - I had a fairly sizable pool 3 future at 28-1 on him...Loved the way he was coming into the race and really thought after the FL Derby that he was going to be one of 3 or 4 with a legit shot... now I'm down to rooting for mass dropouts in order to get Bayern in the gate :zz:

I hate he wont be there...

Not surprised they opted in with dance with fate.

What happens with Bayern

Cairo Prince out, injury

Vincerramos in and harrys holiday on the bubble? Midnight hawk and Cairo defecting moves up two right?

Pablo is getting close......

Saez getting the mount back on Wildcat Red, per Mike Welsch.

this horse can be dangerous...i dont think he gets in though

there's always hope Frodo :D

Commanding curve who is ahead of him is another that could make things interesting...harrys holiday next in line...blah does nothing for me

As expected, Baffert confirms no Derby or Preakness for Midnight Hawk. Woody Stephens Belmont Day the target..

Harry's Holiday moves into Derby gate; Commanding Curve now on deck..

JON WHITE DERBY ML (Updated with Vinceremos & Harry's Holiday)

California Chrome (5-2)
Hoppertunity (8-1)
Wicked Strong (8-1)
Danza (12-1)
Vicar's in Trouble (12-1)
Dance With Fate (15-1)
General a Rod (15-1)
Samraat (15-1)
Tapiture (15-1)
Wildcat Red (15-1)
Candy Boy (20-1)
Intense Holiday (20-1)
Medal Count (20-1)
Uncle Sigh (20-1)
Chitu (30-1)
Harry's Holiday (30-1)
Ride On Curlin (30-1)
Ring Weekend (30-1)
Vinceramos (30-1)
We Miss Artie (30-1)

Jay Privman ‏@DRFPrivman: Update on Chitu: Baffert just called to say he's now decided to run in Derby Trial, Rosario to ride. Still could come back in Ky Derby.

A.K.A. Welcome to the Kentucky Derby, Commanding Curve and Co.


Or Golden Soul 2.0 , whichever our boss prefers! :D

Shaun Bridgmohan gets call on Commanding Curve.

the first horse to sneak in that I think will need to be a must use

Isnt Pablo like one of the few originals from the first Derby Future Pool?

Yes.

I so want PDM to get in...

I was trying to look at the horses with races/wins over the Churchill track out of the top 20+ points ranked horses. Obviously the West Coasters aren't as likely to've even run there, but anyway, I was curious. Accidentally deleted some of what I put together so I might've left something off, but is this basically it? (Chitu of course would technically move in there if he goes in the Derby Trial and isn't officially out of the Derby.)

Ride On Curlin - CD stakes placed; G3 4th
Tapiture - CD G2W KY Jockey Club
Ring Weekend - CD maiden placing
Harry's Holiday - CD maiden winner
Commanding Curve - CD maiden winner

Thanks Steve...I should have inserted " possible" into my question..

ROC is an original....Pablo also an original took in interesting path having fallen completely off the map from November to April

Steve, are you coming to L'ville? is there anyone here that can tell me how the workouts are going/looking or is there a website that has the videos? The reason i ask is that i have found it to be helpful in looking and choosing horses for both races. I know it didn't take a genius to find barbaro and street sense but i was impressed with the way both horses worked before the race along with the way that animal kingdom ran on track. I know that the track will change come race day but its just something that i like to do/watch. Anyone with any info would be awesome. thanks.

I think they were on Churchill's website last year. Racing form's Mike Welsch always discusses them also, but not sure whether that is still free or not or has become part of DRF+ which they charge for. Looks like Steve has him on ATR today.

not sure but didn't cal chrome run the 1-1/8 about 2 seconds faster than any other horse in the derby?...while being geared down..

What's the point of comparing raw times? Every track plays differently.

Yes.. Have been here since Saturday.

Start by using @DerbyMedia on twitter as Darren Rogers sends links to everything you want: https://twitter.com/DerbyMedia

Here is direct link to feed for Derby-Oaks workout feed 8:30-8:50 daily: http://www.kentuckyderby.com/workouts/live

HRTV will start their work coverage from CD Thursday with anaysis from Gary Young, Rich Migliore, Caton Bredar and Co. Pursuit of the Crown is the show you want from them: http://www.hrtv.com/pursuit-of-the-crown-2014/

Mike Welsch's Clocker Reports at DRF of course.

ATR is M-F from Churchill 10a-1p and as always, Welsch, Mig & Young will all provide their insights daily on how horses are looking in works and gallops.

ATR Stream (24/7 loop and live show): http://www.clearstreaming.com/radios...sandbeyond.asx
ATR Archive: http://www.thoroughbredracingradione...ents&Itemid=35

4/21: http://www.thoroughbredracingradione...y=21&Itemid=35
4/22: http://www.thoroughbredracingradione...y=22&Itemid=35

just a 2 second observation....with 20 horses one bump, bad trip, or getting post #1, etc... could throw it all out the window.

I saw someone post raw times on another forum and by doing the calculations they would have had cali chrome beating ring weekend by 50 lengths...lol raw times

yes...ha ha ha...cal chrome will never win this race. I'm betting on the other 19 to win, place and show. ha ha ha!!!:$::$::$:

Baffert unable to convince Susan Chu to pass Derby, so Chitu will SCR from Trial and run adding significantly to the already racey pace.

Not the news the Dallas Stewart & Commanding Curve wanted to hear..

Where can I find pp's for the top 20 qualifiers?

http://www.brisnet.com/brisnet_promo...4PointsPPs.pdf

She is quite bullish from what I have heard.

Thank You

A link to all the replays of the races leading up to the derby.

http://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/5635353

Useful.

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Absolutely you are the best...............thank you