not opinions that only agree with the owner, but your seconditis crap is idiotic. She ran an amazing race, yeah she had a great trip but if she would have figured out how to change her leads without weaving she would have been in the winners circle. You seem to forget she only lost by a head and she fought hard. It was pretty spectacular considering she broke her maiden for 15k at mountaineer. I dont own this horse either but she has zero case of seconditis. Shes just finished 2nd to some really nice horses. Chucks only had her for a couple months and hes had to completely re-train her. 50k allowance is a huge purse, she's running at a top level.

gosh

Again....this is just my opinion. I dont see it as silly, but if thats what you think thats fine. But she sat right behind a speed horse who figured to chuck it on the turn and easily went around her. To me that is a perfect trip. The winner had to go wide around her. It really doesnt get much better than that. She is a nice horse who got beat by a better horse. Now in her next if she doesnt get a perfect set up and wins then I will be the first to say congrats.

Curlin did not have an easy trip and was as gutsy as a horse can get to comeback and beat SS who had a better trip. There is no comaprison between todyas race and The Preaknes.

I tend to agree with you but she did go 4w and had problems getting over to correct lead again. Martinez helped her into it. Sometimes they just don't want to do it. I think what people are impressed with is that she had every reason to quit today and didn't, i didn't see how she galloped out, anyone see?

She has ran in 2 races in which she had a somewhat easy trip and got 2nd...and had a perfect set up..and ran 2nd. Sounds like seconditis to me. It's not like its a bad thing...still collecting some nice checks with decent purses. She obviosuly is running in the right place and has been spotted very well by Simon in her last two.


Christ...its just one person's opinion. It's not like I am on here saying that some of the outlandish things being said at times are crap. These people have every right to state what they think..just like me.

Like I stated earlier I thought the 2 would blow by her...and didnt. The horse is a gutsy one.

F*** the haters. . . Sumwon ran a great race and all the owners should be proud. . . Congrats to Chuck and Steve especially- what they've done is very impressive. . . Hope she comes back healthy and keeps improving. . .

i have to agree she had a good trip. Rated nicely made a great move, her problem was changing her leads. If that would have happened 'correctly', ya'll would have a picture.

just wondering (not being a richard) why do you feel she didnt have a good trip?

Looking at the chart, (didnt see the race live ) .. It looks like she did again battle, pick up a nice check, and I hope she came back safe & sound. Im glad im along for this ride !!!!!!

She ran fantastic, game as hell.. got bumped out of the gate, and bumped top of the stretch, which certainly didn't help.

Again with the names. I wont go all postal and drop down to your level. I could care less that you own the horse. I love the thinking on here.....if someone agrees with you they have a great opinion..if they disagree their opinion means nothing. You sound like a bit of a child.

In all honesty if you didnt see todays trip as a very good/perfect one than either you are being blinded by your involvement/ or have not seen too many races.

I guess Steve should lock certain threads like these to only people who all agree.

Good luck with everything......DUDE.

bumped at the start ...the 6 fanned her out she had a horses on either side of her sandwitched at the 8th pole then came back to the winner..not what id call a perfect trip

Thank you. You are exactly 100 percent right. If the horse won I woulda posted CONGRATS. Just posting what I saw.

Certain people on here are being ridiculous with their attacks. They are being downright childish and I aint gonna drop to their level. It's not like I am saying anything negative.

I should just stay to conversing with my good buddy DrugS.

Thats fine DUDE.

I thought she had a perfect set up. You didnt.

listen pal ive seen more than my share of races....for you to tell me anything about a trip is pretty funny..so thats all ive got to say to you sir:cool: :cool:

a perfect trip doesn't guarantee victory. . . that's the part of your argument that doesn't make sense. . .

yeah, maybe not perfect but it was a good trip. it is a horse race after all! she rated real nice i was impressed, and i was totally impressed with her courage, a lil' different lead change would have been all it took for a win.

I watched the race with a guy who's been in the biz his whole life. He said that when he started 50k was a decent stakes race. Also, to take a horse from the "bottom" ranks (where sumwon started) to finish a head out in a good allowance at churchill is rarely done (without the help of pletcher/allday of course).

You guys have yourselves a heck of a filly

Just got home and watched the race replay...another great effort in a tough race. Man this horse is a tough gutsy competitor!

Congrats to Steve, Chuck and all the owners. You should all be VERY proud. Keep it going...and keep getting those nice checks!:D

You are really being ridiculous. I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you on who has seen more races.

LOL. You aren't kidding.


I am tired man. I do come on with good intentions..then things go all crazy and we hit Defcon 5.


Maybe I need an editor. Or maybe just stop saying what I think.

Man speaks the truth...

Chuck and his team, identified at auction a horse who broke her Maidem at Mountaineer in a claimer. Purchased her and trained her to run her eyeballs outan moving up in class in two out of three starts earning well over 50% of her purchase price.

Honestly feel like I was probably 5+ years from gettig in this game.

Me and everyone I know that is personally involved iin this, is having the time f'ng of our lives. Being involved with Filly, in whatever small way, is a true highllight for me.

BIG PROPS!!!

It was another nice effort....that's for sure.

Stone Grossard and I have had our differences---but, based on the fact that Sumwonlovesyou now has a career record of 6-1-5-0 in her lifetime starts over a fast main track---with her lone win coming at 3/5 odds---of course a nutrual observer has a right to speculate that the horse might be a "seconditis" type.

However, I haven't seen film on her prior---and, IMO, she was just beaten by a little better horse on both occasions. There is a reason why the winner today was a 3/5 favorite--and she was a 5/1 shot.

Inspite of the five seconds from six career tries on a fast main track stat---I believe NOTHING she's done in her last two races anyway, stamps her as the kind of horse who has charchter issues.

Most "seconditis" horses have these charachter issues---but, sometimes, they are just unlucky to find one a little better...and that's probably the case here--at least off of what I've seen in her last two.

Certainly a great effort---and I'm glad for Steve and Chuck and all of the partners.

My only problem with you is you can't spell my name correct.

I would ask that Mr. Stonegossard stay on board please.

This is a board full of characters.
New people giving insight is fine with most of us.
I think it is interesting that some of the people that are a bit critical have been in much larger cat fights including myself. I appreciate new blood.


Just dont go Morty on us. Does Morty even like horses?

OMG.

Yes....someone with my dazzling formal education has no right to butcher the spelling of neutral.

Perhaps I should proof read to prevent further mishaps....or spell check.

Considering your nut obsession I thought it could have meant anything.

Good effort today guys. You should ship he to the midwest, where she can mop up in 50k stakes races lol. Any future plans yet?

I have been fortunate (or unfortunate) to know Morty from the old DRF board...for a long time. Might explain some of my behavior.

Nice race today by the filly!!!

It was a lot of fun to watch and to root her home. I was hoping the bump at the top of the lane would make her switch leads - it just took her a little longer to get that done.

If you have to lose a race and run second, $50k purse N1X's is the place to do it.

Nice job, Chuck!!! We're getting close to having enough cash in the kitty to be able to claim another horse!!!!!

That was really exciting and I'm very proud of our big girl!

She looked a bit stubborn about the lead change, but she certainly wasn't backing down from any of the fillies running on each side of her.

Good girl.

Was that a nutrual observation?

Anyone thinking this Beyer will crack the 80's? That horse that went a second and a half faster crushed Bold Start so that has to be a pretty good figure. If she's only 12-15 points off that it should be a solid figure. I'm pretty psyched, she ran about as good as I possibly could have imagined, collected the second place check, and keeps her condition.

Don't hate me just cause I'm beautiful.....

Don't sell yourself short.....I hate you for many reasons not just something as superficial as your looks.




Any other pitches you want to lob over the plate?

You're just jealous of my obsession with nuts.

That certainly goes a long way towards explaining your performance in Saratoga last summer.

Right.
She's consistent, game, and healthy. You couldn't have asked for much more.