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eagles725 04-23-2018 12:41 PM

:eek::tro:

Benny 04-23-2018 05:29 PM

yippee aye, kay oh :D

Kasept 04-24-2018 09:23 AM

No decision today..

freddymo 04-24-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1108574)
No decision today..

I think Kegan is out with shoulder issue apparently that is the delay? She is the dissenting opinion or at least that is what the tea leaf guys are suggesting?

tector 04-24-2018 11:29 AM

Predicting the arrival of Supreme Court decisions (except on the last day of the term) is impossible.

jnunan4759 04-24-2018 05:35 PM

Actually Sotomayor broke her shoulder in a fall last week. She said it should not interfere in her job. I'm sure decision was made a ways back and opinions have been written by clerks and edited by justices. Whatever it is, it is by now.

Just waiting for the "Reveal". Would change the complexion of the US. Would take something that many of us did illegally in the US for most of our lives and make it legal.

I, personally, think it will have little effect on Thoroughbred Racing, per se. Now it will have a big positive effect on tracks (Monmouth) who can capitalize on it. I don't think it takes handle away at all. I know people who play only horses, or horses and football, horses and basketball and only sports. The people who play horses are still going to play horses.

If they turn it down, it will be a terrible blow. With the precedent of a SCOTUS judgment, it would be extremely difficult to ever approach it again. However, I think Nevada and Delaware throws a wrench into this. It creates an unfairness issue among states, that is why I think it goes through.

I think they have to say it is OK for everybody or OK for nobody.

richard burch 04-25-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1108587)
Actually Sotomayor broke her shoulder in a fall last week. She said it should not interfere in her job. I'm sure decision was made a ways back and opinions have been written by clerks and edited by justices. Whatever it is, it is by now.

Just waiting for the "Reveal". Would change the complexion of the US. Would take something that many of us did illegally in the US for most of our lives and make it legal.

I, personally, think it will have little effect on Thoroughbred Racing, per se. Now it will have a big positive effect on tracks (Monmouth) who can capitalize on it. I don't think it takes handle away at all. I know people who play only horses, or horses and football, horses and basketball and only sports. The people who play horses are still going to play horses.

If they turn it down, it will be a terrible blow. With the precedent of a SCOTUS judgment, it would be extremely difficult to ever approach it again. However, I think Nevada and Delaware throws a wrench into this. It creates an unfairness issue among states, that is why I think it goes through.

I think they have to say it is OK for everybody or OK for nobody.

Exactly. I bet maybe 2 or 3 football games a year. i trust the animals more than the humans. I know that a horse may lose but he will ALWAYS try. The real benefit it will have for the Meadowlands and Monmouth will be small but will help pay the daily operations expenses and employees.

jnunan4759 04-25-2018 10:53 PM

Agree totally Richard. Any money skimmed off of that and put into racing will benefit racing.

People forget that racing was the original, and only, gambling in the US. They also forget it employs a tremendous amount of people and provides a full or partial income for many more. It's hundreds of thousands of people.

When you think of the NBA. 15 players a team, 32 teams. 480, add coaches and staff, maybe 1200. MLB, double that and NFL triple that. But still.

Horse Racing is a livelihood for a tremendous amount of people. A good livelihood. They work hard, long hours. I admire all of them.

jms62 04-26-2018 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1108611)
Agree totally Richard. Any money skimmed off of that and put into racing will benefit racing.

People forget that racing was the original, and only, gambling in the US. They also forget it employs a tremendous amount of people and provides a full or partial income for many more. It's hundreds of thousands of people.

When you think of the NBA. 15 players a team, 32 teams. 480, add coaches and staff, maybe 1200. MLB, double that and NFL triple that. But still.

Horse Racing is a livelihood for a tremendous amount of people. A good livelihood. They work hard, long hours. I admire all of them.

Maybe I am optimistic but knowing Gamblers love of Action I could see those at the Sports book watching games throwing some money at a race or 3..

richard burch 04-26-2018 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1108615)
Maybe I am optimistic but knowing Gamblers love of Action I could see those at the Sports book watching games throwing some money at a race or 3..

Absolutely. I believe it is more likely a guy watching his team lose might get up and take a shot on a race. Not to mention games takes hours for a result and races are minutes.

Kasept 05-14-2018 09:21 AM

7-2 DECISION OVERTURNING PASPA: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...6-476_dbfi.pdf

philcski 05-14-2018 09:23 AM

IT'S OFFICIAL!! 7-2 DECISION!

While I was confident the SC would rule in favor of NJ, I thought it would be 6-3 or 5-4. Ginsburg and Sotomayor were the dissenting opinion.

This is a long time coming and hats off to NJ for fighting so long for it. Monmouth Park should reap some serious benefits starting very soon.

ONTHERAIL 05-14-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1108549)
Word circulating the SCOTUS decision to green light Sports Betting will come tomorrow..

DONE! THEY WIN!! States free to do as they will!!

Kasept 05-14-2018 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1109550)

Quick but extensive synopsis of today's decision and immediate fallout.. Congratulations to @MonmouthPark's Dennis Drazin's whose vision, courage and steadfastness made this historic change possible.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...6-476_dbfi.pdf

richard burch 05-14-2018 09:47 AM

It's a good day!:tro:

joeydb 05-14-2018 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1109553)
Quick but extensive synopsis of today's decision and immediate fallout.. Congratulations to @MonmouthPark's Dennis Drazin's whose vision, courage and steadfastness made this historic change possible.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...6-476_dbfi.pdf

Great show today Steve, was listening on my commute in. Your coverage of the issue and discussion with Johnny D was excellent.

Johnny was quite right that currently Borgata is only racebook in Atlantic City. Consequently it is now the only casino I go to in NJ.

I hope this is a positive for racing even marginally.

Kasept 05-14-2018 11:06 AM

STATE BY STATE BY LEGISLATION TRACKER

Benny 05-14-2018 12:59 PM

Drazin on video on TDN

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/


Question - in NJ will the bettor have to go to the track or casino to bet sports or can we bet online or phone if not able to get there ?

jms62 05-14-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1109562)
Drazin on video on TDN

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/


Question - in NJ will the bettor have to go to the track or casino to bet sports or can we bet online or phone if not able to get there ?

I am sure they will give us an online option

Kasept 05-14-2018 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1109562)
Drazin on video on TDN

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/


Question - in NJ will the bettor have to go to the track or casino to bet sports or can we bet online or phone if not able to get there ?

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1109566)
I am sure they will give us an online option

The online portion of the equation is more complex than the bricks and mortar portion. At several recent confabs (Symposium; HBPA Convention; Pan-Am, etc.), sports gaming consultants generally suggested that it would take an additional 5 years after PASPA was struck down to get sports betting online.

Drazin on ATR tomorrow and will have him address..


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