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Alan07 05-12-2011 03:17 PM

Casper's Touch dropped from consideration for the Preakness by the McPeek barn today.

Kasept 05-12-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 776133)
Casper's Touch dropped from consideration for the Preakness by the McPeek barn today.

Harlan's Hello too.

blackthroatedwind 05-12-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 776144)
Harlan's Hello too.

Is he going to the St. James Palace as well?

randallscott35 05-12-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 776118)
Zayat will fly to Louisville to watch Nehro work Monday morning and then decide whether to ship to Baltimore.

Oy vey. Hey Ahmed, here's a wacky, nutty idea... How about you leave that up to Asmussen and Blasi?

Tough to feel important at home

Merlinsky 05-13-2011 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 776118)
Zayat will fly to Louisville to watch Nehro work Monday morning and then decide whether to ship to Baltimore.

Oy vey. Hey Ahmed, here's a wacky, nutty idea... How about you leave that up to Asmussen and Blasi?

There's no need to be the Jerry Jones of horse racing, and sometimes I think it's hard to tell which owner's gonna win the Eclipse for Outstanding Trainer in Their Own Mind. If you don't trust your trainer to do the job you want, get a different trainer. I've heard that Barclay Tagg would sooner tell an owner to go jump than put up with that behavior for very long. I think it was some book or article on Funny Cide where he admitted to telling some owner that they'd be better off using a different trainer.

Well, it could be worse. Zayat could be micromanaging Asmussen & Blasi over a horse named Z Nehro, expressing concern about Pimlico's turns vs. Churchill's. (I haven't heard anybody say Pim's turns are tighter yet. It doesn't feel like Preakness time til someone starts swearing up and down that they are.)

I can understand if it's really just an effort to feel useful rather than acting as a silent partner of sorts. The less you're around the horse, the less fun you might feel you're having. Show up, give the horse a snack and pat on the neck (unless your horse is Midnight Interlude, in which case stay a safe distance away), talk to the trainer in person after the work instead of on the phone, then go home. Maybe throw in some thoughts on types of races you'd like to run in so the trainer knows you're more interested in as far as your overall operation's concerned, but you're paying the trainer to condition and point to races, so let them do it. Ask for options where you make the final call if you want, but let them pick the options.

pba1817 05-13-2011 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 776195)
There's no need to be the Jerry Jones of horse racing, and sometimes I think it's hard to tell which owner's gonna win the Eclipse for Outstanding Trainer in Their Own Mind. If you don't trust your trainer to do the job you want, get a different trainer. I've heard that Barclay Tagg would sooner tell an owner to go jump than put up with that behavior for very long. I think it was some book or article on Funny Cide where he admitted to telling some owner that they'd be better off using a different trainer.

Well, it could be worse. Zayat could be micromanaging Asmussen & Blasi over a horse named Z Nehro, expressing concern about Pimlico's turns vs. Churchill's. (I haven't heard anybody say Pim's turns are tighter yet. It doesn't feel like Preakness time til someone starts swearing up and down that they are.)

I can understand if it's really just an effort to feel useful rather than acting as a silent partner of sorts. The less you're around the horse, the less fun you might feel you're having. Show up, give the horse a snack and pat on the neck (unless your horse is Midnight Interlude, in which case stay a safe distance away), talk to the trainer in person after the work instead of on the phone, then go home. Maybe throw in some thoughts on types of races you'd like to run in so the trainer knows you're more interested in as far as your overall operation's concerned, but you're paying the trainer to condition and point to races, so let them do it. Ask for options where you make the final call if you want, but let them pick the options.

When you are the one signing the checks, you do whatever f*ck you want...

Duvalier 05-13-2011 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 776196)
When you are the one signing the checks, you do whatever f*ck you want...

That worked out well with JP's Gusto

blackthroatedwind 05-13-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 776196)
When you are the one signing the checks, you do whatever f*ck you want...

Another fine example of a litmus test poster.

ateamstupid 05-13-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 776260)
I preferred Merlinsky's stance.

It's just a knee-jerk reaction of his after blindly defending the Mosses all of last year.

Alan07 05-13-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 776144)
Harlan's Hello too.

Just won the 7th at Belmont and paid $43.

analyizethis 05-13-2011 03:26 PM

What kind of odds would anyone give me on a proposition bet that less than half of the non-winning runners from this year’s Derby will ever win another race?

Kasept 05-13-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 776272)
Just won the 8th at Belmont and paid $43.

The 7th actually.

Merlinsky 05-13-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 776265)
It's just a knee-jerk reaction of his after blindly defending the Mosses all of last year.

To whom are you referring? :confused:

pba1817 05-14-2011 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 776203)
That worked out well with JP's Gusto

I didn't say it works... but if the guy who is writing the checks doesn't feel like he is making the calls, you wont be working for him for very long. Regardless of the industry..

Alan07 05-14-2011 02:04 PM

Concealed Identity will run in the $100,000 James W. Murphy Stakes (Race 5) if not entered in the Preakness.

NTamm1215 05-14-2011 03:03 PM

According to HRTV Santiva will not run in the Preakness.

Indian Charlie 05-14-2011 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 776455)
According to HRTV Santiva will not run in the Preakness.

Damn, I like Sativa too.

blackthroatedwind 05-14-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 776486)
Thank God, as I actually like Sativa.


FTFY.

Indian Charlie 05-14-2011 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 776486)
Damn, I like Sativa too.

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 776489)
FTFY.

I don't really like SANTIVA. I was saying I like Sativa. Huge difference, as I'm very confident you already know.


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