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dalakhani 02-28-2011 09:20 PM

The wizard got an awesome deal. Their cap number is down to like 38 million.

Maybe they will lower ticket prices:rolleyes:

Coach Pants 02-28-2011 10:10 PM

LuhBrawn "three!" Jaymuh

dalakhani 02-28-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 757035)
They are being bought out by the teams they were traded for. In simple terms they pay them to go way so they can use their salary number which gives them greater cap space moving forward. Once they clear waivers they are free to sign with any team for I believe a pro-rated amount of the league min.

That being said the 2011 versions of Bibby and Murphy are't huge upgrades though they are capable NBA vets who may be able to contribute something in limited minutes.

Bibby would start for Miami. No?

RockHardTen1985 03-01-2011 12:16 AM

Chuck I disagree. Bibby is exactly what you said they need. He can hit a 3 and run the offense. Bibby, even at this stage of his career is a huge pick up. Troy Murphy cant hurt either. His game reminds me a lot of my game. Limited minutes?? Bibby would play 30 plus minutes a game.

Cannon Shell 03-01-2011 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 757064)
Chuck I disagree. Bibby is exactly what you said they need. He can hit a 3 and run the offense. Bibby, even at this stage of his career is a huge pick up. Troy Murphy cant hurt either. His game reminds me a lot of my game. Limited minutes?? Bibby would play 30 plus minutes a game.

Bibby is better than what they have but he isn't exactly the type of creator that I was thinking of. His defense is below average at this point. Murphy is interesting but he has hardly played this season.

Cannon Shell 03-01-2011 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 757052)
Bibby would start for Miami. No?

I would think so

freddymo 03-01-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 757067)
Bibby is better than what they have but he isn't exactly the type of creator that I was thinking of. His defense is below average at this point. Murphy is interesting but he has hardly played this season.

Having 3 guys that need the ball in there hand isnt the answer either. The Heat made their bed with Labron and Wade until they learn to handle the last 3 minutes of a tight game they are doomed. Have they won any close games this season, mind you the regular season is a complete waste of time in the NBA.

Cannon Shell 03-01-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 757239)
Having 3 guys that need the ball in there hand isnt the answer either. The Heat made their bed with Labron and Wade until they learn to handle the last 3 minutes of a tight game they are doomed. Have they won any close games this season, mind you the regular season is a complete waste of time in the NBA.

Nice call on the Celts resigning Perkins.

No players "need the ball in their hands". They need the ball in position to exploit matchups and to be able to attack the defense effectively. Playing James at the point the majority of the time makes defending Miami much easier.

The idea that they dont know how to "handle" the last 3 minutes of tight game is stupid. The problem is neither James or Wade is a great off the dribble shooter. But the offense that they are currently playing forces that very thing. Ideally you would want James and/or Wade attacking the basket from the wing with Bosh a pop out option and Miller a bailout. What is happening now is James has the ball, Wade is overplayed/or has the 5th wheel's defender helping out on him and Bosh/miller are merely decoys.

Coach Pants 03-01-2011 07:45 PM

that's too much detail over a guy who is a proven choker. Any adjustments not including someone having the guts to tell him his outside jumper is pathetic in pressure situations is a complete waste of time. He has to decrease the hubris and realize he needs to take the god-damned ball to the basket and force them to foul. He is a power forward. Needs to play like one when the money is on the line.

freddymo 03-01-2011 08:57 PM

I am shocked Perkins signed a with them.. Good for the Thunder now they will be able to compete for a while in the west. I more high quality player and they maybe the very real future out west

MaTH716 03-04-2011 09:59 PM

Unbelieveable, down one with 30 seconds to go and who takes the shot?

Shawn Williams, are you f'n kidding me?

Going to lose to the Cavs again...............

MaTH716 03-04-2011 10:09 PM

Give up 119 points to a team that had lost their last 26 road games. :zz:

King Glorious 03-04-2011 11:52 PM

Silly me............for thinking that giving up 115 and losing to Cleveland in Cleveland was as bad as it could get.

For good measure, with each successive game, Miami is making NY's good win look like nothing.

Dahoss 03-05-2011 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 758195)
Silly me............for thinking that giving up 115 and losing to Cleveland in Cleveland was as bad as it could get.

For good measure, with each successive game, Miami is making NY's good win look like nothing.

Yeah but they are relevant again and that's all that matters. :rolleyes:

clyde 03-05-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 758195)
Silly me............for thinking that giving up 115 and losing to Cleveland in Cleveland was as bad as it could get.

For good measure, with each successive game, Miami is making NY's good win look like nothing.


Fine work.

horseofcourse 03-05-2011 09:38 PM

The Nuggets got too much for Melo apparently. THe answer would be yes.

King Glorious 03-15-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 756325)
Utah won last night. Does that mean that trade might end up BETTER than you thought?

Surely you aren't using last night's game as any type of barometer as to whether or not that was a good trade.

I have 12 games and four losses to the Pacers and Cavs (plus years of watching Amare "The Matador" Stoudamire and Carmelo "Ole" Anthony get torched. You don't give up 115 and 119 to Cleveland and 119 to Indiana if you want to call yourself a real contender. They look worse to me now than before the trade.

clyde 03-15-2011 10:09 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/n...ory?id=6217837

Cannon Shell 03-20-2011 11:07 PM

It is getting worse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=310320015

King Glorious 03-27-2011 04:52 AM

It's reached the incredibly embarrassing stage.


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