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ARyan 07-09-2010 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 666848)
Pre-injury Grant Hill was probably going to be a hall of fame player

But there wasn't one day that he was in the same league as James.

James may be a narrisistic, spoiled kid. He may have a hugely inflated vision of himself. He may not have the killer instict that we all want.

But the idea that he isnt that good or that Miami wont win a title because of him is silly.

I think my comparison more stems from, even with all the ability they have (or had pre-injury in Hill's case), neither could put it to use and get an NBA Championship. Also the "hype" factor with both. Hill's wasn't nearly as big as the self-proclaimed "king," but I recall when Hill came in the league from Duke and he was being hailed as the next big thing, and here it is, what 15 years later, and never sniffed a title. I only hope the same for Lebron.

I never really cared about Lebron, or much for the NBA, I am more of a college basketball guy, but all this hoopla that was built up by him, only to basically tell the world "I can't win a title on my own, I need another superstar and 1st team All-Star to carry me to a title" is just ridiculus...

It makes me really dislike him, and I hope they fail miserably in Miami.

Bosh is a fool too, carrying on with his documentary crew, and his twitter account. Its like he is crying out for some attention. Look for him to be hawking Carlo's Cuban Sandwich Pit in Miami, those are the only endorsements he will be left getting, the scraps from Wade and the Queen.

Coach Pants 07-09-2010 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 666848)

James may be a narrisistic, spoiled kid. He may have a hugely inflated vision of himself. He may not have the killer instict that we all want.

But the idea that he isnt that good or that Miami wont win a title because of him is silly.

They won't win a title because of him.

We can bump this thread until 2020.

clyde 07-09-2010 10:02 AM

Watch the clash that will develope between Wade and LeMoi, mostly because of LeMoi.It will fracture the team due to the guy who already has proven he will quit even in play off time if he is not allowed to coach the team.



This will happen.

Coach Pants 07-09-2010 10:13 AM

Riley, Bosh, Wade and LeBron need to be the 4 pussies and perform this song before tip-off opening night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj67T29Uxjo

clyde 07-09-2010 10:29 AM

Oh boy.

clyde 07-09-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARyan (Post 666939)
I think my comparison more stems from, even with all the ability they have (or had pre-injury in Hill's case), neither could put it to use and get an NBA Championship. Also the "hype" factor with both. Hill's wasn't nearly as big as the self-proclaimed "king," but I recall when Hill came in the league from Duke and he was being hailed as the next big thing, and here it is, what 15 years later, and never sniffed a title. I only hope the same for Lebron.

I never really cared about Lebron, or much for the NBA, I am more of a college basketball guy, but all this hoopla that was built up by him, only to basically tell the world "I can't win a title on my own, I need another superstar and 1st team All-Star to carry me to a title" is just ridiculus...

It makes me really dislike him, and I hope they fail miserably in Miami.

Bosh is a fool too, carrying on with his documentary crew, and his twitter account. Its like he is crying out for some attention. Look for him to be hawking Carlo's Cuban Sandwich Pit in Miami, those are the only endorsements he be left getting, the scraps from Wade and the Queen.


Ryan!!



Did you sell your soul to the devil??

Scav 07-09-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 666843)
Uh Scavs....What other player won a title by himself?

And I would like to know who were the 15 guys better than Pippen since he was elected to the top 50 NBA players of all time team?

http://www.nba.com/history/players/50greatest.html


Bird
Barkley
Malone
Drexler
Hakeem
Ewing
David Robinson
Shaq
Reggie Miller

These guys were better then Pippen, I used 1989-1995 I think.

slotdirt 07-09-2010 10:52 AM

You'd have to include Isaiah in that list, no? Don't think there are many who would argue Pippen was a better NBA player than Thomas.

Scav 07-09-2010 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 666970)
You'd have to include Isaiah in that list, no? Don't think there are many who would argue Pippen was a better NBA player than Thomas.

Sure, add at will.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-09-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 666887)
You are so nuts you are teeeeeew mothah fucl<ahs.



Killing people in LA because your precious Byron Scott has been taken from you is only making you a childish serial killer.

He ain't precious, but he does smile (n' behave) a lot. He'll stay there, and try to pretend this never happened.

Coach Pants 07-09-2010 11:04 AM

Wilkins, Rodman, Buck Williams

SCUDSBROTHER 07-09-2010 11:08 AM

I Am actually glad he is gone.

[/quote]

I wish I had a buck for every single time that's gunna be said in Cleveland today (couch mania at chemical lake.)

clyde 07-09-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 666980)
I Am actually glad he is gone.


I wish I had a buck for every single time that's gunna be said in Cleveland today (couch mania at chemical lake.)[/quote]



You wouldn't have very much moan-ay..the opposite is true.


Of course, you would know better being 2300 miles away.












SportyFans...really; is it me?

hi_im_god 07-09-2010 11:55 AM

http://www.fearthesword.com/2010/7/8...cavaliers-fans

i like ownership's decision to take the crazy stalker ex-girlfriend approach.

Cannon Shell 07-09-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 666883)
You are drunk if you think Pippen was better than Worthy!

This sort of makes my case for me.

Cannon Shell 07-09-2010 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 666917)
It all boils down to what that particular team needs. In halfcourt offense Worthy was infinitely better than Scottie Pippen. Pippen was actually pretty useless in the halfcourt offense.
He was, however, good in transition, and one of the best defensive players in the history of the sport.

Pippen is just a really hard player to judge, both because he had a fairly unique skill-set, and because he played most of his career with the greatest athlete in the history of time.

Worthy played wing on a fast break offense with the best point guard in history. I could have scored 15 and grabbed 5 rebounds a game in that offense with magic.

Since defense is 1/2 the game and pippen was easily one of the top defensive players in the game it is hard to say a guy who scored 17 points a game makes that an even trade.

If you were choosing teams from scratch and you had to take one of these two, virtually everyone would choose Pippen. Worthy's skill set was just not that unique in the NBA. Pippen's absolutely were.

RockHardTen1985 07-09-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 666943)
They won't win a title because of him.

We can bump this thread until 2020.

They will win a title THIS SEASSON.

MaTH716 07-09-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 667016)
They will win a title THIS SEASSON.


Cannon Shell 07-09-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARyan (Post 666939)
I think my comparison more stems from, even with all the ability they have (or had pre-injury in Hill's case), neither could put it to use and get an NBA Championship. Also the "hype" factor with both. Hill's wasn't nearly as big as the self-proclaimed "king," but I recall when Hill came in the league from Duke and he was being hailed as the next big thing, and here it is, what 15 years later, and never sniffed a title. I only hope the same for Lebron.

I never really cared about Lebron, or much for the NBA, I am more of a college basketball guy, but all this hoopla that was built up by him, only to basically tell the world "I can't win a title on my own, I need another superstar and 1st team All-Star to carry me to a title" is just ridiculus...

It makes me really dislike him, and I hope they fail miserably in Miami.

Bosh is a fool too, carrying on with his documentary crew, and his twitter account. Its like he is crying out for some attention. Look for him to be hawking Carlo's Cuban Sandwich Pit in Miami, those are the only endorsements he will be left getting, the scraps from Wade and the Queen.

LOL

Titles as a measure of a players worth is stupid. Especially in the case of Hill who may have had a ring had his ankle not broke into 50 pieces. What is ridiclous is that Kobe Bryant was saying the same exact thing a few years ago when he was pouting and demanding to be traded unless the lakers added some better pieces. I guess Chris Wallace being completely incompetent makes up for that. If you dont know who Chris Wallace is then you dont really know what is going on anyway.

satan's twin 07-09-2010 12:59 PM

One of the most amazing aspects of these signings is that while Miami gets three superstars, it has no cap space to add other pieces. It was looking as though the remainder of the roster would be filled with a half dozen guys named "Who?" For the immediate future, that would not bode well for America's Newest Team. Especially when you consider that an injury to D. Wade or Chris Bosch leaves America's Team anchored by LeBron James, a player who when last on the court with all the chips on the table on the biggest stage, looked like Tarzan/played like Jane.

Now comes word that the idiot bastard running the Timberwolves gives the Heat even more comfort and relief by taking the psychotic bust, Michael Beasley and his $5 million salary cap hit, off the Heat's books. The Heat now will make moves to add role players at will. Pat Riley must have blackmail pictures of the T-Wolves' GM under a dog in order for Minnesota to make this trade.


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