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Port Conway Lane 05-16-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
nopers played a tri super with rachel and flying private on top, having same 2 along with pioneer, friesan fire, musket man, general quarters.

Sorry to belabor this any further but the way I read it had you used him instead of potn, ff, or gq you would have hit both the tri and super.

So I guess he beat you out.

10 pnt move up 05-16-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane
Sorry to belabor this any further but the way I read it had you used him instead of potn, ff, or gq you would have hit both the tri and super.

So I guess he beat you out.

:wf

Danzig 05-16-2009 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Ran his ass off, and would've caught the filly if the race were another sixteenth. I thought he was done in midstretch but he kept coming. Great, great race.

not necessarily. and since it isn't, a moot point.

Danzig 05-16-2009 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
How wide was he at the top of the stretch?

probably not as wide as a six wide musket man in the derby....

Danzig 05-16-2009 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
And if only the first 10 finishers weren't entered, we'd have truly gotten to see Pioneerof the Nile's greatness. WHAT MORE DOES HE HAVE TO DO?!

:D :tro:

Danzig 05-16-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
So you don't think on dirt he'd be better normally than a horse like Luv Guv? Plenty that are better than they showed today? Like whom? The only ones that seem to be better than what they showed are Pioneer and Friesan Fire and since that's back to back horrible ones for FF, he may not be better.


lol

if luv gov is the barometer...bury this sport now, cause it's dead and buried if he's the measuring stick. holy crap.

Danzig 05-16-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv
Very surprised Larry Jones ran him back today.

i'm not.

Danzig 05-17-2009 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom
POTN 1,700,000 in winnngs, he runs one horrible race in his career and you say he's not as good as we say.


omg

not the 'i'd love to own him' line of thinking....not that for sure! take the colt back to cali. win everything they've got..but for crying out loud, leave the dirt to the dirt horses.

Danzig 05-17-2009 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank
If she runs in the Belmont,He will beat her.

not necessarily
in a longer race, tactics are different. ra might win just as well as she did today.

Danzig 05-17-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
Mine that bird is still a piece of ****, who we will never hear from again. I would be surprised as hell if he won a race of any consequence ever again, I sure do see alot of 3rd and 4ths though

:rolleyes:

pointman 05-17-2009 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
Mine that bird is still a piece of ****, who we will never hear from again. I would be surprised as hell if he won a race of any consequence ever again, I sure do see alot of 3rd and 4ths though

Honestly, as against him as I was going into this race, I don't think I can agree with this. He ran a hell of a race today and as far as I am concerned he validated his Derby run. Maybe he has hit his peak fitness, but there really is not any other way to view the race but to say that he closed solidly today.

Cajungator26 05-17-2009 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
Mine that bird is still a piece of ****, who we will never hear from again. I would be surprised as hell if he won a race of any consequence ever again, I sure do see alot of 3rd and 4ths though

The Jerry Jinx has been put into place ... MTB will now be a multipe grade 1 winning gelding. :)

slotdirt 05-17-2009 07:31 AM

Did Danzig just set a non-Morty DT record of most posts in a row in a single thread? Consolidate.

estreetposse 05-17-2009 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Did Danzig just set a non-Morty DT record of most posts in a row in a single thread? Consolidate.

:tro: :tro: :tro:

herkhorse 05-17-2009 07:51 AM

Ah thinks she been drinking....;)

Danzig 05-17-2009 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Mine That Bird certainly got a great pace setup ... but he made an excellent account of himself for sure.

Looks like the tactic of having him jog and loaf through the very early stages has moved him up big time. Obviously.

I'm curious to see how he runs in the Belmont when you can't loaf away the early stages of the race and expect them to come back to you because the pace is often much slower. ... baring the entry of any speed sprinter types like High Finance or baring the entry of a dominant speed router like a Smarty Jones who was forced to brush off an insanely premature middle move from a Malibu winner.

To me RA is a dominant speed router - and I like MTB's Belmont chances better if she runs .. they won't let her have a Da Tara jog on an uncontested lead trip obviously.

Even though I thought RA was a cinch today .. I got burnt because I played against MTB underneath .. and I will eagerly play against him in the Belmont again if RA doesn't run.

RA saw real pace pressure today from a very good and very fresh speed horse coming off of a razor sharp win. Look at the horses who were also wide into the 1st turn and not far behind her ... I believe they were Friesan Fire, POTN, and General Quarters ... all of them were exhusted and beaten by a country mile.


yes, she did. her performance was outstanding.

Danzig 05-17-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Did Danzig just set a non-Morty DT record of most posts in a row in a single thread? Consolidate.

sorry you have a problem with that. i responded to different posts as i went thru when i got home late last night. i didn't know that was against the rules.

Danzig 05-17-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
Ah thinks she been drinking....;)

i was! the typing and backspacing to correct typos was tedious. but i'm sober this morning, and still replying as i go...so i guess more complaints are in the offing.

Handicappy 05-17-2009 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
I wanted to say this.

Unless Baffert brings in a facsimile of Bob and John like he did in 2006.

Danzig 05-17-2009 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pointman
Honestly, as against him as I was going into this race, I don't think I can agree with this. He ran a hell of a race today and as far as I am concerned he validated his Derby run. Maybe he has hit his peak fitness, but there really is not any other way to view the race but to say that he closed solidly today.

yes, he did.
POTN however did not.


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