Originally Posted by Split Rock

Yea...that's likely the reason he eased... extended way too much energy going 4 wide....although, in the Derby, I think he was 10 wide and won in a gallop.

Originally Posted by phystech

Advice - learn more about it before you ask questions about it, unless those questions are asked because you don't understand it and want to learn more....

I won 6 races with a horse that wouldn't eat, and wouldn't hold any weight. Off the claim he was a fish - look at him from front and he disappeared. A little Equipoise and he ate up and looked for more - and started winning.

Did we win because of steroids? YES. Did the horse turn into Arnold? NO. But he put on some healthy weight and maintained it because....... he ATE.

Originally Posted by CSC

I think the point he was making was Big Brown's 1/4 crack was not as bad as Touch Gold's and that his connections said it wasn't a problem especially after his good works after the patch. Therefore it cannot be used as an excuse.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Tom,
media attention now IS negative. That is what I have been saying all along. That the mainstream media covers every event looking for an issue to make into a story. .

Originally Posted by phystech

Yep - you couldn't be more correct. The negative media will find something to pick apart about every thing.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Easy Tom, it will be ok. The guy won the Derby and Preakness, he is doing ok. But part of sports and competition is rooting for the teams and people that you like and rooting against the ones you dont like. Personally I have nothing against Dutrow. I actually feel kind of bad for him (because i know he will second guess himself forever) but some of the other connections (mostly guys that arent in the limelight) talked so much that it is hard not to root against them. And i'm sure that if we had a TC contender that Scavs would be a huge media target but that's the way it goes...

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

What Big Brown had was much worse than what Touch Gold had. Touch Gold did not have a quarter crack. Touch Gold had grabbed a quarter in his previous race but it wasn't a true quarter crack. I know that because my trainer was asking David Hofmans about it just a couple of days ago. Hofmans said that what Big Brown had was 100x worse.

Originally Posted by Scav

I was actually thinking after the race today that next year when things are serious, if I would be allowed to be interviewed, I could have some fun, freestyle some answers.

Instad of "babe" I would say "Yo"

What up Yo

Take it easy yo

I do'nt know the answer to that, yo

Originally Posted by Scav

I was actually thinking after the race today that next year when things are serious, if I would be allowed to be interviewed, I could have some fun, freestyle some answers.

Instad of "babe" I would say "Yo"

What up Yo

Take it easy yo

I do'nt know the answer to that, yo

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

What Big Brown had was much worse than what Touch Gold had. Touch Gold did not have a quarter crack. Touch Gold had grabbed a quarter in his previous race but it wasn't a true quarter crack. I know that because my trainer was asking David Hofmans about it just a couple of days ago. Hofmans said that what Big Brown had was 100x worse.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Maybe we can get Paris Hilton to buy a horse and totally throw them off

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What would David Hofmans know? Randy Moss said it was worse and that's that!!!!!! He is an expert you know...

Originally Posted by phystech

Can you send her checkbook my way? I had a guy from NY ask if he could buy a $100 share in my stable the other day..... 8-)

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What's also ironic about the Touch Gold comparison is that despite the Belmont win, later in the '97 season,Touch Gold tailed off badly (just as Big Brown did today), getting beat the length of the stretch at odds-on in the Pegasus (in a 4-horse field) and then virtually easing in the BC Classic behind Skip Away. I don't recall exactly, but I believe the excuse was the development of a quarter crack, possibly a result of the trauma sustained in the Preakness followed by continued training/racing during the summer.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hell DeeTee is a high rollers outfit compared to that dude

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm just blown away by da tara today-he's certainly gotten good at the right time. who won the sir barton btw??

Originally Posted by Danzig

i still like moss' capping, but he's been a bit screwbally lately-the 1/4 crack talk on top of the whip comments a few weeks ago.
i never have cared for the gnome sitting on his high chair next to him tho....

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hell DeeTee is a high rollers outfit compared to that dude