no joke!! it's so funny, i'll say hey, she might run at saratoga and people look at me like they have no idea how big a deal it is!!!! probably because they don't have any idea.... i mean, some even say 'where's that?'. crazy stuff!

i called chuck a few minutes ago, she cooled out fine. i said i was looking for the wire, and he replied it never shows up quick enough. i told him i thought she looked great, and he said yeah, she did.

he said everyone had a ball, but of course everyone was disappointed. i told him next time we'll get them, and he agreed.


she came out ok, that's the important part. and she's paying her way, again an important part. we live to fight another day!!

way to go sumwon, you looked great!

How about the Glass Slipper at Ellis, part of the Claiming Crown, with a 75,000 purse?

bounce, I dont believe in that vodoo garbage, though after running three consecutive increasing figures its unlikely to run a forth, just using stats not this thorograph crapola. I dont think she increased her beyer today, well see.

look, she ran great, outran her odds for sure:rolleyes:

That is a terrific idea given the normal track bias at Ellis. Inside speed always holds well there and if Sumwonlovesyou has shown anything, she has some early speed.

Congrats to all owners. I only wish I had been a part of the site earlier. I hope you guys are having a great time- you deserve it.

NT

will an 83 beyer get that done?

Much like on turf, speed figures tend to run lower on the Beyer scale on polytrack (and cushion) than they do on dirt.

It was just an idea, and probably realistic. The biggest problem is that it is at 6f. There is no route for females only on dirt.

thats the most accurate statement yet.

any socal speed ship in for that 75k claiming race?

you know I know that..Beyers are the universal language, kind of like spanish in arizona

She wouldnt have a shot against older horses who have won 15 races. Ellis Im sure isnt in the cards.

Horses? Of course not. Females in the race I mentioned, sure she would. The race usually comes up light.

You yourself said she shouldn't have been less than 6/1, so shouldn't you be impressed that the horse you thought had a maximum 14% chance of winning ran second by a neck?

Of course not, because it's pretty clear that you have some weird vendetta against the stable. My hunch is that had she won you would've been railing about how she got a clear lead or how she was "supposed to win" or some bullshit like that.

She'd have to supplement to the Claiming Crown, so that is probably not an option.

I didnt mean horses in the literal sense. Fillies, I dont think she could beat those harder knocking fillies. She needs to get through a 1x before you beat horses who have won 20 races

CM, I think that race usually comes up a lot lighter because its in MINN. I think it will be real deep this year being at Ellis.

10 pnt, I respect your opinion and believe you have every right to state it. However, all I am saying is that those of us that are part of this partnership have every right to be excited about this horse. She has improved leaps and bounds since getting into Chuck's hands and there is still room for more improvement. I doubt she increased her Beyer today, but given that she lost training a few weeks ago, was coming off a layoff, and considering the trip she got, she ran a terrific race.

As far as the sarcasm of outrunning her odds, she had no business opening up at 2-5. Regardless, I believe that there is better ahead for her and if she can learn to relax more and change her leads correctly, there is certainly much better in her future.

i have to say earlier i almost looked for a picture of vultures circling to put on here--because i really do think a few (very few hopefully) wait for things like this so they can come on and attack, and i guess lord it over us poor hopeful sods (don't we know we're in over our heads?!) who haven't a clue what to do with/about this horse. and for crying out loud, money was bet on her? the shame of it all.

it's funny tho really. we went into this deal with eyes wide open, with a small bankroll and really just some hope to have a bit of fun. certainly no one expected to have a horse of this calibre. those who knock her can say hey, she keeps coming in second. but she's doing something that only a small percentage of racehorses manage--running and winning money in a race that isn't a claiming race. i mean, did anyone who bought into this expect to have her show up at churchill, arlington, and probably ship into the spa? my guess would be NO. but some enjoy pointing out the bad, rather than look for the good. that's their loss.

by no means am i singling out anyone in this thread or elsewhere today. past experience after sumwons races has been far worse, and temperature raising, than anything i've seen lately.

of course, the day isn't over yet.

Now it is 20 races? Come on.

It was just a suggestion, and is pretty logical actually. This horse will be a killer if you can find a starter allowance series somewhere.

still plenty of upside in this horse. i'm thrilled. i don't know of anyone who has bought in who isn't thrilled.


thanks (again) to steve, chuck et al. your hard work is much appreciated. thanks most of all to the filly, who is providing thrills a minute!

Now you're talking.

I doubt anyone wishes sumone or anyone in the partnership ill will. We would all love to see her run and win. Its very exciting seeing people enjoy their ownership experience. Its a very rare occasion you get a filly like her for the amount of money they paid

no, i don't think it's wishing ill will. i think it's just a gloating type thing, or like those who hope that someones posted bet loses, so they can rub it in a little. neener neener, you were wrong type stuff.

I havent seen that either. Anyone whos part of this forum wish all the partners the best

To all the connections: SWLY ran her guts out today. You all should be VERY proud! To break out on top like she did and battle again to take the lead was IMPRESSIVE. She showed she's still improving, learning each race. Tough to win on the lead on poly, but she almost did it. The horse that beat her rated in fourth or fifth most of the race and went 3-4 wide to beat her.

Next time guys! Congrats again to all the owners, Steve and trainer for a great job! Hope to see her race at Saratoga soon!:D

While it's no guarentee she enters the gate at the spa, I do think it's a guarantee she'll have a bigger entourage than Sheik Rashid did at last year's Travers Stakes.

I hope the other partners loved on her lots for all of us who couldn't be there today. As always Chuck, we appreciate all you do in the continued success of Dee-Tee Stables.

Now if you excuse me, I have a nasty letter to write to United Airlines.

and like i said, today has been nothing like in the past--there have been a few on here, esp after her debut, who thought it was just hilarious.

give em hell sightseek!!

Congrats everyone .... spoke to Byk briefly after the race and it sounds as though she came out of the race fine.

That is good to hear...she sure seems to be a real nice honest hard tryin filly!

I will! Out of curiosity we checked to see how they were doing on the return flight at 9pm and that too is already delayed...flying truly is for the birds!



I loved how happy Sumwon looked when running on the lead before those two longshots ran up to each side of her. She had her ears up and was just rolling along...you can tell she really loves it out there.

I said she ran well, what more should I say, she should be in the alabama....

look I didnt make her 7/5, so she ran better then I thought, maybe not to the publics estimation though of just short of odds on.

i think this is a fair post......she has definately been a "10 pnt move up" in this barn......I thought she was a horrid underlay at 7/5, and since she lost want I right?

Another nice race by Sumwon!!! I was very pleased again to see her gutsy effort and her willingness to keep trying. That's a tough commodity to come by in a horse and it is a very valuable one to have. I love to win races but I also don't mind milking a condition for all it is worth.....

For those who seem to take exception to some comments in this thread - why even bother? There's always going to be someone somewhere who finds fault in something. Given that forums like these are built on second-guessers and negative thinkers, we as owners of a very nice horse should easily be able to accept the criticism. We're getting to walk a few footsteps in the shoes of others who have owned much better horses than we do and yet they get blasted for every move they make. If you are going to be an owner with a highly publicized horse, you've got to have thick skin - and a good calculator while you count your purse money.....

Thanks go out to Chuck and crew for another job well done!!!!!!

Congrats to all of you folks and to your special girl. She is fun to watch. My wife was even rooting her on and she isn't even much into horse racing. I really hope to see her in Saratoga!! Great Job!

Just a question for those who play Arlington Park on a regular basis - do you not want to be right on the rail? I noticed Sumwon was 3 wide the whole race. (and I mean this as no knock on Willie, he is really good with her!)

Emily works for them.

Address it to her......and make it extra special mean.

Trust me, she deserves it.

i'll try to remember that. one of my strengths/weaknesses is that i am loyal to a fault. i can take criticism directed towards me, but not so much if it's directed to anyone i have a connection to. i admit it! is there a 12 step program for that??

shouldn't you have changed your handle to lazarus? and poor emily!