Willie gets along with her very well, She won't last in that nw1x condition too long, if she keeps improving with every race. Congrats to Chuck, Steve and DeeTee Stable partners

that horse she lost to is no slouch...the winner has tangles with the likes of mystical plan and octave..congrats on a game effort ..chuck steve ..awesome..

yes she will geta field without a bomber..and win easy..

She had all the reason to quit . It was not in her to quit kept battling. I sure wouldnt call her one of them that settles for 2nd. She was going for the goodies. All of you should be proud of that guttsy full of heart performance.

willie does seem to get along with her and very very game effort to a nice one - can't begin to say how pleased with how far she's come, looked great in the postparade - am sure the neighbors wondered what all the noise was lol - major props to the Simon barn and SUMWONLOVESYOU!

Estimate on the Beyer ?

Congrats to all, including SumWon!! Gotta love those gusty preformances, and drawing a check. Cant beat it!!!

4th race was run in 1:41.4/5...1 1/16 Miles | 3 Year Olds | Allowance Optional Claiming ($80,000)


:24.27 :47.50 1:11.40 1:35.57 1:41.95


sumwon's was 1:43.2/5....1 1/16 Miles | 3 Year Olds And Up | Allowance | Purse: $49,100

:23.79 :47.66 1:12.36 1:36.99 1:43.49




maybe the above times will help those that know how to compute figs....but usually winners of these type races run in mid to high 70's i'd guess..

either way i see a VERY improved game horse that can rate and finish well

Well she has kind of gotten 2nd/ settled in her last two. Good performance though.

Looking at her form some would say she has seconditis, but think about her progress from Claiming 15K at he Mountain to Allw. 51K at Churchill. Thanks a major move plus she's a 3YO no less.

I think she' continues to move forward and will grap the brass ring very soon.

Chuck's done a superb job placing her, just superb.

Congrates to all!!

Spyder

The horse that won that Opt/clm race won by open lengths. I would guess high 70's. Will see how the other races go.

Last out she was beaten by Girls Pearls & we all know what she went on to do. She was beaten again by a VERY good filly. She only goes up from here. Great job by Chuck & Steve to pick this one out !

She didn't settle in her last. She got clearly beaten by a better horse.

She didn't settle here. She fought the 3-5 favorite who was exiting a Graded Stake to the bitter end. She came back on the 2 horse on the inside that headed her earlier in the stretch. Just because she has two seconds in a row does not mean she is settling. She also went by the winner in the runout. Watch the races.

Off topic, the top three were 8.25 lengths clear of the rest of the field.

Once Chuck and Cherie get that lead change corrected, she will be fine.

of course she didn't 'settle.' she rated back after taking the lead along the rail early, got hip checked at the top and was very game while between. There is no way she settled for a thing. The filly who won is a nice horse. She certainly raised her value today.

Umm I have seen both races. No need to get you skirt in a knot. She is a nice filly. But she had an easy/uncontested lead in her last and still got 2nd. Was not a bad race at all..she ran good. Today she got an IDEAL stalking trip and got 2nd. Great ride by Martinez. But come on..it doesnt get much easier than today's trip.

The runout means absolutely nothing. Thats stretching my friend.

what is your point? You can have a good trip and get nailed by a better horse. Who said it was a tough trip?

My point is the horse had a perfect trip. Thats all. Probably shoulda won with that perfect trip. . But still ran very respectable. The horse who beat her is obviously a good horse to catch her with that trip.

Your missing one point stoneman...she's a 3 year old getting better eith only 3 races with a real training. SHe's move forward in all her races and has a lot more potential to improve. Easy trip...yes, but hse's getting better and better.

Spyder

Nobody AJ.

Obviously an _______, I was just pointing out that she got beat by better horses and the settling comment was off base and he/she goes to the skirt card.

Whatever.

Ok....loud an clear. THIS IS A NICE HORSE !!!!!!


I don't own her so maybe I am coming from a different point of view. I just thought with todays trip she should have won. Perhaps the horse that beat her is a monster..only time will tell.

I am curious to see how she runs without an optimum set up.


But all in all was a nice purchase by Simon....the horse has rapidly improved under his care.

Bold Start finished 2nd in that race, and I believe he ran in some Derby preps.

How to you figure that with a perfect trip she should have won? The general public had the horse that beat her at 3 to 5 odds. Translation: Sumwon was supposed to take a good beating from her regardless of the trip. Instead, Sumwon made that filly fully extend herself to get by.

FYI, SWLY gets a good trip everytime because she has natural speed.

She lost to a 3:5 favorite. Not a monster, just a better horse right now. No biggie. Twas a good race. Chuck got a 25K claim running much better. Im certainly pleased. I was not expecting this level so I guess Im easy to please.

No need for to be such a dick. I am sorry your horse lost. I had zero betting interest in the race. I am a fan of Steve Byk. He knows who I am. I hope the best thing for the horse.

But if you cant see that all I am saying is she had an easy trip and shoulda run then so be it.

Damn...maybe you shouldn't own a hrose /get so emotionally involved if it is gonna cause you to go off. Take a deep breath and relax.

YEs, Bold STart finished 2nd in the Hutch and 3rd in Ill Derby and Derby Trial, so my guess is that horse that blew out the field in the allowance/opt claimer, will get a very high figure. My guess is around 80 for Sumwon.

She will never get a bad trip I agree. She was late changing to her right lead and once she did after Willie urged her over, she had another burst to nearly win. I think with a timely lead change at the top of the stretch rather than mid stretch, she'll be ever better as others have said on here.

Jim

You seem like a rational person. You dont think that a horse that gets a perfect trip should win? I understand the favorite was suppose to win...but you know as well as I do that fav's dont always win.

I am not saying she ran bad today.....IMHO I just thought she shoulda won off the trip.

No need for the nuclear assault being launched at me by some. I come in peace. Lol.

NO assault. You make some good points. Humble Janet even had a better trip getting through on the inside and she passed Sumwon, and Sumwon did outfight her and ran past her and nearly got to LE Chateau as well. She was also getting 7 lbs from the winner as well which must be taken into account.

Exactly. I thought the 2 would easily get by her. The 2 didnt. That alone was impressive enough.

In all honesty I think sometime people who are involved in owning a horse become "blinded" at times to whats really going on. The person who called me an a-hole obviosuly cant handle losing so perhaps shouldnt be involved in the game. I am just stating some facts.

You all got a nice horse for 25k. You should be happy. After the first race the horse might not have seemd like a great buy...but she is a nice purchase.

No nuclear assault. You told me not to get my skirt in a knot and I responded to your juvenile comment.

I own many other horses. Which means nothing in this discussion. I was trying to make a point which I apparently failed to do, but I thank AJ for making it for me.

Come on man...the skirt in a knot thing was a joke. I dont even know if you own a skirt.


Good luck with everything.

Congrats to Sumwon, and to all of you! :)

As if YOU know what's really going on. thanks for enlightening everyone.
you have not provided any facts, only keep restating that you think that she should have won since she got a good trip. that's not a fact, it's your opinion.

the person that called you an a-hole was responding to your "skirt" comment.
You say you come in peace but to me it seems like you have another agenda, namely pouring cold water on some people that were a little enthusiatic about their horse. I'm sure they were all thrilled that she nearly pulled off the upset, but you had to come along and state the "facts" that what she really did was "settle" for second.

stone gossard .....soon as you go out and find a horse ..pay for it .train it to go from 15 claimers at the mtn to 50 allw with a 30 plus beyer improvment ill take your opinion as fact....unlil then you should just be positive..as most on here are very excited ..

It's obvious yourself and some others cant handle a different opinion than yours. Thats too bad. I guess if anyone who might have a diffferent opinion on here should not be heard. Kinda of f* cked up.

No agenda

No cold water.

Just stating something that a lot of other people who saw the race might have seen.

OMG..lol.

I feel like I am some foreign country.


I didnt know the title of this thread was "Only post opinions on here that agree with the owners of the horse".

You guys crack me up.

I will go back to my world which is called reality.

Too funny.

I think it's obviously fine to have a dissenting opinion, but I think that yours sounds a little silly.

Maybe it looked like a "perfect trip" to you, but considering all the factors that weigh in just as much if not more than the so-called "perfect trip," it was a tremendous effort.

Besides, since when is taking dirt in the face for the first time, going four wide on the far turn, getting passed by horses on the inside and outside, then coming back to lose a photo a perfect trip?

Kinda like saying Curlin got a perfect trip in the Preakness..

SUMWON ran her friggin eye balls out. She seems like a gritty son of a bitch because she was passed by TWO HORSES on BOTH SIDES and fought back. While I nailed the race cashing my all time high in tickets in one race (17 total tickets), if she wins that friggin race I am F'N ROLLIN in even more dough.

She is a hell of a horse. I think 8.5 panels is her max though as that pace was perfect for her today, she just got passed inside and outside and that could freak a horse out, but NO. She fires right back.

She will need a break after this though as this is two grueling races, I am guessing a 45-60 day layoff is coming

I thought that was awesome. It was a lot of fun to watch, I really wish for you guys who were there that she could have gotten you into the winner's circle.

A fine performance anyway, she certainly looked good today and should break through in pretty short order.