Like I said I wouldn't bet her ever but if you think I don't KNOW that she is 11 for 11 and extraordinary you are mistaken. While Beyer, Serling , Davidowitz, Hogan and others want to look elsewhere they aren't calling her a rank outsider. Even Beyer(DRF Webcast) who thinks as I that she has a good chance to be off the board wouldn't suggest she is a hopeless 100/1 shot, he just knows that several in the field have run MUCH faster on multiple occasions, he doesn't think she is without merit.

Bro I think your a hypocrite and love the attention. She's 5th or 6th best. That sounds like a rank outsider to me.
You guys came at me pretty hard in this thread and I said nothing different then 5 or 6 well respected guys. Because its me you guys attack. Especially BT who as far as I'm concerned is a total coward. I'm talking races giving opinions. He attacks and disappears. He said I'm why he stays away, judging by his posts we are better without him.

I keep thinking she is not good enough but her races of layoffs are by far her best. How does she outkick this group ?

Probably not good enough to win, but good enough to beat Songbird.

Plum pretty would beat this field.

This is the kind of crap Joey we all talk about. You come in a ruin every thread. We don't need 20 posts stating you don't like songbird. We get it she's not a baffert horse so she sucks. Some of us are interested in hearing updates and real opinions. BT is one of the best posters in here and it's a shame he doesn't post on here more but who can blame him. Time to grow up.

:tro:

You're not talking races and giving opinions, you're spouting off ignorant comments like songbird should be 100-1 or suggesting someone is voting for Hillary in a .50 pk3 breeders cup thread. I'm not a coward because I replied, that's what you wanted, It's a waste of time to even indulge you with responses, yet here i am trying to explain to you why nobody here likes you, from your mythical wagers, to your "past posting", deleting losing wagers posted, mistyped numbers, endless excuses for your losses, "that cost me 5 figures" losers, that horse was much the best, im the unluckiest person, etc. etc. etc., you make it incredibly hard to root for you with your wagers and in life.
So in short, I'm not a coward I'm just holding you accountable for the comments you make.

And if you can find me 3 analyst who suggest songbird should be 100-1, you will never hear another thing from me again....but if you can't, then you're going to continue to get response like this, from me.


-bt-

That's going to b like pushing an elephant up a hill! :D

Distaff
 

Wow what great a wonderful field of fillies and mares. Should be a really exciting race. One thing for sure, if Songbird wins, she'll have proved her greatness vs the best. There are 6 hosses in the race who should be favorite every time they run. If stellar wind runs at Songbird early and really hard, curalina gonna be difficult to handle at some point. I just think this filly looks so perfect she must be that special one like Go For Wand was.

I like songbird, despite thinking she's somewhat over hyped, but to compare her to go for wand is nutty.

It's the 100-1 comment that drew so much ire. Even the most skeptical of serious cappers would be hard pressed to put Songbird at worse than 10-1.

Here's my, admittedly crude, line for the Distaff:

PP# Horse.......... FairOdds (to 1)
1 Songbird......... 6
2 LandOverSea... 400
3 Curalina.......... 10
4 CoronaDelInca. 400
5 StellarWind...... 2
6 ForeverUnbr'ld. 18
7 I'mAChat'box... 12
8 Beholder.......... 2

as a value bettor, give me some landoversea :rolleyes:, ha.

Chatter over Curalina?

some people see this as a 2 maybe 3 horse race, yet i'm over here trying to get off the 5 DEEP i want to go (songbird / StellarWind / Beholder / Chatter / Forever Unbridled)

-bt-

I bet that land over sea in oaks :)

Songbird over Landoversea ;)

I'm cursed with Forever Unbridled...somewhere in my tickets this girl will be

Is a distaff classic double being offered? $1 minimum?

Yes..

Great I love the multiday exotics

Here are fixed odds currently being offered by one sportsbook. (Bookmaker.eu)

TO WIN LONGINES BREEDERS' CUP DISTAFF - RACE 9
Songbird
-105
Land Over Sea
+8050
Curalina
+1615
Corona Del Inca (ARG)
+8050
Stellar Wind
+385
Forever Unbrindled
+2050
I'm a Chatterbox
+2050
Beholder
+385

I hope we see those 3.85-1 odds in the parimutuals.

Here are their fixed odds for the Classic

ODDS TO WIN BREEDERS' CUP CLASSIC - RACE 12
Effinex
+2123
Frosted
+750
Keen Ice
+2337
California Chrome
+110
Win the Space
+3764
Melatonin
+1242
War Story
+2661
Shaman Ghost
+2337
Hoppertunity
+1661
Arrogate
+285