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jms62 11-15-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 817838)
You think Rex will have something for him?

Jets -4 is LOY

MaTH716 11-15-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 817838)
You think Rex will have something for him?

I'm guessing with the Jets seconday, that they will be able to use somebody as a shadow on Tebow. Joey or Hoss would probably have a better grasp on that then me. But I honestly don't think Tebow's their biggest problem. They need to get the offense back on track. If they are able to get that going, I can't see Denver being able to stay with them.

Dahoss 11-15-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 817831)
I am defending "my guy" because results speak for themselves. I own a company, if I hire a sales guy who does things completely differently than any of my other sales guys and his results with the same staff and support we have now are a complete inversion from where we were before, the guy deserves credit. I don't care how he got there.
If not his play than what? His intangibles, maybe. Both Decker and Miller were on espn yesterday saying the same things, the guy brings the team up and isnt scared to put it on his own back when need be.
Re: Ponder...I will take 2-8 62tds and a TD (plus one rushing) over 16-38 160 and an INT every day.
You all don't like him (as a QB anyway, I give everyone credit for speaking to his person and work ethics) but this town has really jumped on board and it has been fun. I hope they keep winning. :wf

So he has great intangibles? That is what you're going to hang your hat on?

I haven't seen this kind of irrational fandom since...well, Zenyatta. The results aren't completely different. Take the rose colored glasses off. You beat either terrible teams or a team whose QB was on his couch less than 2 weeks before he was rushed to the field. When you played a halfway decent team, you got smoked. Beaten so bad, John Fox wouldn't even commit Tebow as the QB rest of the season, just week by week. Now, because you beat the Chiefs, all of that is forgotten?

Just remember to come on back and update us on how the town feels at the end of the season.

jms62 11-15-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 817845)
So he has great intangibles? That is what you're going to hang your hat on?

I haven't seen this kind of irrational fandom since...well, Zenyatta. The results aren't completely different. Take the rose colored glasses off. You beat either terrible teams or a team whose QB was on his couch less than 2 weeks before he was rushed to the field. When you played a halfway decent team, you got smoked. Beaten so bad, John Fox wouldn't even commit Tebow as the QB rest of the season, just week by week. Now, because you beat the Chiefs, all of that is forgotten?

Just remember to come on back and update us on how the town feels at the end of the season.

Tebow is to an elite NFL QB as a 5k Claimer is to Zenyetta

Bigsmc 11-15-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 817842)
I'm guessing with the Jets seconday, that they will be able to use somebody as a shadow on Tebow. Joey or Hoss would probably have a better grasp on that then me. But I honestly don't think Tebow's their biggest problem. They need to get the offense back on track. If they are able to get that going, I can't see Denver being able to stay with them.

9 men in the box and man to man on the wideouts. Denver wouldn't get a first down.

Clip-Clop 11-15-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 817838)
You think Rex will have something for him?

No doubt. Should be interesting.

Clip-Clop 11-15-2011 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 817845)
So he has great intangibles? That is what you're going to hang your hat on?

I haven't seen this kind of irrational fandom since...well, Zenyatta. The results aren't completely different. Take the rose colored glasses off. You beat either terrible teams or a team whose QB was on his couch less than 2 weeks before he was rushed to the field. When you played a halfway decent team, you got smoked. Beaten so bad, John Fox wouldn't even commit Tebow as the QB rest of the season, just week by week. Now, because you beat the Chiefs, all of that is forgotten?

Just remember to come on back and update us on how the town feels at the end of the season.

You can coach almost everything in football, everything except speed and leadership can be learned or taught. You play the team in front of you. Regarding the Lions, that pocket passing game plan was doomed from the start against their pass rush. I do not think they would have won running the offense they are now either, don't get me wrong, but some ball control and ground game probably would have helped against their splits (and total lack of recognition ability).
As far as my play referred to above, I no longer play anything at the highest levels so I haven't been "smoked" since I was 20 years old.
The town at the end of the season will be basking in sunshine at Vail or Breckenridge and looking back on a season that turned out better than expected...already has.

Dahoss 11-15-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 817852)
You can coach almost everything in football, everything except speed and leadership can be learned or taught. You play the team in front of you. Regarding the Lions, that pocket passing game plan was doomed from the start against their pass rush. I do not think they would have won running the offense they are now either, don't get me wrong, but some ball control and ground game probably would have helped against their splits (and total lack of recognition ability).
As far as my play referred to above, I no longer play anything at the highest levels so I haven't been "smoked" since I was 20 years old.
The town at the end of the season will be basking in sunshine at Vail or Breckenridge and looking back on a season that turned out better than expected...already has.

Cool story man.

RockHardTen1985 11-15-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 817839)
Jets -4 is LOY

LOY has been the Pats both times beating up on the Jets. Im actually taking Denver on Thursday. GL though.

GBBob 11-16-2011 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 817922)
LOY has been the Pats both times beating up on the Jets. Im actually taking Denver on Thursday. GL though.

Seriously Joe..how can you take Denver? The Jets were EMBARRASSED Sun night and will be ready to roll. The Jets will put 8 on the line and dare Tebow to beat their corners, which he can't do. I think Jets by at least 14.

Bigsmc 11-16-2011 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 817942)
Seriously Joe..how can you take Denver? The Jets were EMBARRASSED Sun night and will be ready to roll. The Jets will put 8 on the line and dare Tebow to beat their corners, which he can't do. I think Jets by at least 14.

Because it is the NFL. Games like this are the reason I quit gambling on the NFL two decades ago. Looks like a complete no brainer, but there have been bigger upsets vs the line in the past....

MaTH716 11-16-2011 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 817946)
Because it is the NFL. Games like this are the reason I quit gambling on the NFL two decades ago. Looks like a complete no brainer, but there have been bigger upsets vs the line in the past....

:tro:

RockHardTen1985 11-16-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 817942)
Seriously Joe..how can you take Denver? The Jets were EMBARRASSED Sun night and will be ready to roll. The Jets will put 8 on the line and dare Tebow to beat their corners, which he can't do. I think Jets by at least 14.

The lines not 4 either. Its up to 6.5 some places. It feels like the Jets are 2 obvious, I like being on the other side.

GBBob 11-16-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 817956)
The lines not 4 either. Its up to 6.5 some places. It feels like the Jets are 2 obvious, I like being on the other side.

I figured there's no way NY $$ would let that game go off at 4. And I get the "too obvious" part..and if it was anyone BUT Tebow...even Orton, I would strongly consider Home dog, but...

Clip-Clop 11-16-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 817942)
Seriously Joe..how can you take Denver? The Jets were EMBARRASSED Sun night and will be ready to roll. The Jets will put 8 on the line and dare Tebow to beat their corners, which he can't do. I think Jets by at least 14.

Probably get solid odds from someone giving 14, especially with their offense.

GBBob 11-16-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 817986)
Probably get solid odds from someone giving 14, especially with their offense.

Fortunately, what I "think" about a game and how I bet a game are two seperate processes

Clip-Clop 11-16-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 818002)
Fortunately, what I "think" about a game and how I bet a game are two seperate processes

I often have the same issue. Generally backfires. Though I was able to tease Va Tech -4.5 and Over 34 Jets Broncs. Could've had Jets PK but I cannot root for them as I am going to the game.

GBBob 11-17-2011 08:50 PM

I'm missing most of this game because I can't take my eyes of the cat sleeping....much more interesting

hi_im_god 11-17-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 818409)
I'm missing most of this game because I can't take my eyes of the cat sleeping....much more interesting

you just missed shannon sharpe explain that mark sanchez (14-17 so far) inaccuracy is the problem with the jets offense.

highlights shown included 2 of his 3 missed passes.

3kings 11-17-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 818409)
I'm missing most of this game because I can't take my eyes of the cat sleeping....much more interesting

Can you skype me video of the cat? Has to be better than the game.


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