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Betsy 01-30-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 747340)
Gotta think Illinois would be easier then running on the poly or in Arkansas.

I don't think he would run him in the Wood(I know Repole does not want to) however a 2nd place in the Wood would be a nice paycheck as well as prolly get him in the Derby if he did want to run him against Mo

What's wrong with Arkansas? I wouldn't go to Keeneland at all, so I agree........

First things first, though - let's let him get through the Gotham first.

Indian Charlie 01-30-2011 03:22 PM

Repole said the other day that Stay Thirsty's first race back is pretty much set in stone (Gotham) while his second start is largely undefined.

As opposed to Uncle Mo, who's leaning to the TBD in his comeback, but is pretty much set in stone for his second, the Wood.

It is curious that in their first workouts back today, ST went nearly three seconds faster than UM in a three furlong workout.

Betsy 01-30-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 747348)
Repole said the other day that Stay Thirsty's first race back is pretty much set in stone (Gotham) while his second start is largely undefined.

As opposed to Uncle Mo, who's leaning to the TBD in his comeback, but is pretty much set in stone for his second, the Wood.

It is curious that in their first workouts back today, ST went nearly three seconds faster than UM in a three furlong workout.

I know ST is not well regarded here and that's fine, but since I like him, I follow him a lot.

http://www.drf.com/news/uncle-mo-tak...e-palm-meadows

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Pletcher also sent out two of his other top 3-year-olds to work Sunday at Palm Meadows. Brethren went five furlongs in 1:02.20 and Stay Thirsty posted a bullet work at three furlongs after covering the distance in 36.95.

“We worked Brethren at 6:30 and I thought the track was slower at that time than later in the day when we breezed some of our other horses who posted faster times,” said Pletcher. “I thought he worked well. We’ll see how he goes next week but right now we’re on schedule for the Sam Davis.”
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tjfla 01-30-2011 03:34 PM

For Derby strategy speaking

ST has $110,000 right now,just say he wins the Gotham then he will have about $240,000,if Repole was smart he would run him in the Wood collect the 2nd place check and have 2 horses in the Derby.

THis is why I asked I wonder what they will do with him?

Betsy 01-30-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 747357)
For Derby strategy speaking

ST has $110,000 right now,just say he wins the Gotham then he will have about $240,000,if Repole was smart he would run him in the Wood collect the 2nd place check and have 2 horses in the Derby.

THis is why I asked I wonder what they will do with him?

We're not going to know until after the Gotham. The Wood by itself is not a bad idea, but Repole seemed firm that the two would be separate. That said, a lot can happen between now and then

Betsy 02-02-2011 05:21 PM

Nice maiden race at GP on Saturday:


California, an Indy colt out of Madcap Escapade is entered (Pletcher)

Occelli, by Bernardini out of Grannie's Feather (I know she's the dam of a good runner, but I'm blanking out) is trained by McLaughlin and has exceptional works

Cal Nation, by Distorted Humor out of She's a Winner, by Indy - also trained by Pletcher

Plus some other well bred kids

lemoncrush 02-02-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 747357)
For Derby strategy speaking

ST has $110,000 right now,just say he wins the Gotham then he will have about $240,000,if Repole was smart he would run him in the Wood collect the 2nd place check and have 2 horses in the Derby.

THis is why I asked I wonder what they will do with him?

I think it's a bit premature to map out a derby path for a horse who struggled when going 2 turns in the bc juvy

Betsy 02-02-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 748393)
I think it's a bit premature to map out a derby path for a horse who struggled when going 2 turns in the bc juvy

Who didn't think he would struggle going 2 turns off of a 2 month layoff and a 7 furlong sprint? Not one of Todd's better ideas.

RockHardTen1985 02-02-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy (Post 748400)
Who didn't think he would struggle going 2 turns off of a 2 month layoff and a 7 furlong sprint? Not one of Todd's better ideas.

Agree with you on this. I thought there was nothing wrong with his Toga G1 run. Then he does not show up till the BC. Mo is clearly the real deal, why was this horse not sent to the Delta Jackpot race or something? Did they really think he could beat Mo? The spot did not make much sense to me.

Sightseek 02-02-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy (Post 748376)
Nice maiden race at GP on Saturday:


California, an Indy colt out of Madcap Escapade is entered (Pletcher)

Occelli, by Bernardini out of Grannie's Feather (I know she's the dam of a good runner, but I'm blanking out) is trained by McLaughlin and has exceptional works

Cal Nation, by Distorted Humor out of She's a Winner, by Indy - also trained by Pletcher

Plus some other well bred kids

Wild Fit and Fusaichi Rock Star

lemoncrush 02-02-2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 748402)
Agree with you on this. I thought there was nothing wrong with his Toga G1 run. Then he does not show up till the BC. Mo is clearly the real deal, why was this horse not sent to the Delta Jackpot race or something? Did they really think he could beat Mo? The spot did not make much sense to me.

Boys at toscanova had the same layoff and still ran his race. I'm not trying to be anti-Stay Thirsty. But it's ridiculous to think he has the 2-yr old resume to suggest a 2-race path to the derby. If he's sound, he should have been ready for the holy bull or whirlaway. He has a lot to prove before he's a real derby contender.

NTamm1215 02-02-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 748421)
Boys at toscanova had the same layoff and still ran his race. I'm not trying to be anti-Stay Thirsty. But it's ridiculous to think he has the 2-yr old resume to suggest a 2-race path to the derby. If he's sound, he should have been ready for the holy bull or whirlaway. He has a lot to prove before he's a real derby contender.

No, you don't understand, he's a half to two phenomenal routers so he's a no brainer to get better with distance.

RockHardTen1985 02-02-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 748432)
No, you don't understand, he's a half to two phenomenal routers so he's a no brainer to get better with distance.

Who said that?

Betsy 02-02-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 748402)
Agree with you on this. I thought there was nothing wrong with his Toga G1 run. Then he does not show up till the BC. Mo is clearly the real deal, why was this horse not sent to the Delta Jackpot race or something? Did they really think he could beat Mo? The spot did not make much sense to me.

It wasn't that I thought he couldn't compete with those horses; Todd just didn't give him his best shot. I liked his race in the Hopeful a lot; I thought he was very game. .I get that people don't think he's that good and that's fine - we shall see

Betsy 02-02-2011 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 748404)
Wild Fit and Fusaichi Rock Star

Thanks!

lemoncrush 02-03-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 748404)
Wild Fit and Fusaichi Rock Star

I laughed.

robfla 02-03-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 748404)
Wild Fit and Fusaichi Rock Star


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Grade 2 winner Fusaichi Rock Star will stand at Indian Ridge Farm in Rayne, Louisiana, for $500 during the 2007 season.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/bre...idge-farm.aspx

blackthroatedwind 02-03-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 748432)
No, you don't understand, he's a half to two phenomenal routers so he's a no brainer to get better with distance.

One day someone will explain why anyone in their right mind thinks Stay Thirsty belongs on the TC trail.

I just don't get it.

NTamm1215 02-03-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 748527)
One day someone will explain why anyone in their right mind thinks Stay Thirsty belongs on the TC trail.

I just don't get it.

His owner does and I guess that's where it starts. After all, according to him it's incredible that the horse did anything last year because he's such a can't miss prospect going long.

blackthroatedwind 02-03-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 748529)
His owner does and I guess that's where it starts. After all, according to him it's incredible that the horse did anything last year because he's such a can't miss prospect going long.

I've been wrong before....but so has Mike.


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