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Danzig 05-05-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 31lengths
....with TWO broken ankles.....

don't forget about 'looking for loose change'.

3kings 05-05-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
don't forget about 'looking for loose change'.

Does anyone else think Morty killed Gales, took his identity, and is now posting under his name just to screw with us?

2Hot4TV 05-05-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Right as usual. What am I confused about?

When to stop.

Danzig 05-05-2009 08:37 PM

new ntra top 3 yo poll is up in my newspaper. rachel #1, POTN #2, and mine that bird is #3.

Benny Leger 05-05-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
15 horses didn't handle the mud. He handled it better than the other 3 who did.

Why did any of the Horses have to handle the mud in the first place. Why didn't the track super open the track up and at least try and dry it out. It didn't rain Sat. anytime after dawn.

Benny Leger 05-05-2009 10:02 PM

I didn't see a whole lot of difference in the weather here from Friday to Saturday. They worked the track for the whole card friday, and it was fine by Oaks time. Why not at least try to dry it up for the first half of the card...and if it ain't happenin'...reseal it.

Riot 05-05-2009 10:08 PM

They did harrow the track repeatedly Saturday. I know they floated it (not sealed it) for the Derby.

JJP 05-05-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
well the trainer said he was getting equine massages the week before so maybe he was just tense in his other races? or no?

I can just see that becoming the new craze. But nothing, for sheer idiocy, can top D. Wayne Lukas putting 3 inch nasal strips on top of a horse's nose. Like those little strips would've made any difference.

pgardn 05-05-2009 10:20 PM

After the number of races they had by the time the
derby went off, I think it is safe to say there were
many inconsistencies in the surface.

So if people want to use the race as reliable
information for horses at the Preakness, more
power to them. People freak out enough about
the inconsistent nature of judging horses going
from syn. to dirt, and then make
sweeping proclaimations about that track and race...

Inconsistent in itself.

Riot 05-05-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
I can just see that becoming the new craze. But nothing, for sheer idiocy, can top D. Wayne Lukas putting 3 inch nasal strips on top of a horse's nose. Like those little strips would've made any difference.

I know Chuck has told me he doesn't believe he can see a difference, but there is valid science that shows they do decrease the chance of bleeding (EIPH) via pulmonary system pressure changes; and as a horse can't breath through it's mouth, keeping the nasal passages open (especially in animals where narrowing due to allergy and inflammed upper airways are common due to their environment) makes sense.

Nasal strips definitely work for human athletes, tons of football players wear them regularly (different reason in humans, though, mostly allergies, deviated septums, etc. narrowing nasal passages). Pat Day used to wear them riding. You ever wear them? Try it. You get more air, it's true.

pgardn 05-05-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
I know Chuck has told me he doesn't believe he can see a difference, but there is valid science that shows they do decrease the chance of bleeding (EIPH) via pulmonary system pressure changes; and as a horse can't breath through it's mouth, keeping the nasal passages open (especially in animals where narrowing due to allergy and inflammed upper airways are common due to their environment) makes sense.

Nasal strips definitely work for human athletes, tons of football players wear them regularly (different reason in humans, though, mostly allergies, deviated septums, etc. narrowing nasal passages). Pat Day used to wear them riding. You ever wear them? Try it. You get more air, it's true.

I tried em running. They did not help as far as I could tell
time wise and how I felt. Of course there is a fallacy that
people should only breathe through their nose, or mouth.
I have seen both. By far the most efficient method imo
is the mouth and nose for humans, but most air clearly
comes in through the mouth when running distance.

I will also note that Candy Ride had huge nostrils.
What this has to do with anything, I dont know.

slotdirt 05-06-2009 07:55 AM

Churchill had a pretty constant breeze on Friday, while there was no such thing on Saturday. I think they did the best they could with that track considering just how much it had rained on Friday night.


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