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Cannon Shell 11-10-2011 12:18 PM

This might better reflect what most Penn State alums feel today

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/colle...fAdMPfOuIieruJ

clyde 11-10-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP (Post 816753)
You are a pathetic excuse for a human being. A waste of space, blood and skin. A living breathing tumor. The world will be better when you are six feet under.


Boy,just think---he's just getting revved up.

He probably bet on PeanutShell's caribou---I mean horsey.



PJJ's is a true holier- than- thou'er.Yes.He is so right righteous in his pull over gelfing sweater.

Needs a bra,though.

clyde 11-10-2011 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP (Post 816753)
You are a pathetic excuse for a human being. A waste of space, blood and skin. A living breathing tumor. The world will be better when you are six feet under.

Oh by the way...do the world a favor and try to put me there:



7027 North Aurora Road,BainbridgeTownship,Ohio.

Let's see if you can back up your words.

I don't think ya got the guts.


















(Believe me, if he comes it will be with the cowards gun or car bomb.)

Cannon Shell 11-10-2011 12:27 PM

Seal, Morton, Seal...

A Drugs find from facebook. Note the date of the article

http://www.timesonline.com/columnist...a4bcf6878.html

Cannon Shell 11-10-2011 12:30 PM

Hey Horseofcourse I bet you hope this isnt true...

http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/jerry-sa...rk-madden.html

Cannon Shell 11-10-2011 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 816761)
Oh by the way...do the world a favor and try to put me there:



7027 North Aurora Road,BainbridgeTownship,Ohio.

Let's see if you can back up your words.

I don't think ya got the guts.


















(Believe me, if he comes it will be with the cowards gun or car bomb.)

What is a cowards gun? I have a club to whack seals with. Should I fed Ex to that address for your defense?

clyde 11-10-2011 12:35 PM

Oh boy.




Anyways Mr. Shell....contrary to the itinerant "spill in aisle 5" worker's pea brain,the only thing I ever said regarding this thing was too many people were acting so elite.I think if they had a really neat job and weighed the downside of going to the police...they probably would have done what WrongTurno did.


















Just thayin'.

clyde 11-10-2011 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 816764)
What is a cowards gun? I have a club to whack seals with. Should I fed Ex to that address for your defense?


!!!! yes !!!!






:tro:

Danzig 11-10-2011 12:37 PM

bad things happened, and the focus is on football, and the football coach...it's messed up. i can't believe people demonstrated to keep him. i'm amazed that his career will end this way, but it's his own fault. people didn't want it to be true about sandusky, so they ignored it. that didn't change the truth, it just hid it.

the college isn't a victim, nor are the coaches and other staff being fired-the victims in this are the kids.
the college is partially responsible because they obviously let the athletic dept become too big, and too self-controlled. the climate allowed this to be hidden, they are responsible for allowing that type of environment to flourish, where joe pa was king.
the a.d. and everyone else in that dept who knew but did nothing are also responsible. this shouldn't have lasted as long as it did, and the authorities should have been in on this from the get go.
it's a shame his career ended like this, but he's to blame. and he knows it. i'd imagine the repercussions of this will last for years.

clyde 11-10-2011 12:43 PM

You would vampire bite Tony if he reported and got fired and you know it!!!





You concubine!!

satan's twin 11-10-2011 12:52 PM

It is absolutely incredible to read the stupid sh*t that gets posted here thread after thread, be it from the resident warlock who thinks it's premature to dismiss that criminally aiding and abetting head coach without "due process" or the PSU parent who suggests another poster is making "douchebag comments" for labeling this diaper-clad turd a criminal or others who see the student pep rallies in front of the criminal coach's home in a show of support as nothing other than "silly".

"SILLY"? Are you out of your f*cking mind? Those privileged dolts parading in front of Paterno's home don't have the balls or the brains to confront that reptile the way he should have been confronted. Holding a pep rally for 'Good Old Joe"? How about going there with torches and a noose.

First, the 28 year old twit who sees this monster raping a child in the shower runs away from the locker. What a f*cking hero. He should have bludgeoned the prick in the shower. No, he is so distraught, he calls his dad for advice, who's first concern is to call the head coach ?????????? Of course. It wouldn't dawn on you to call the police either while this was happening or THE NEXT DAY. And what, they don't have a 911 service in Pennsylvania? No problem, though. The coach will know what to do. He will call the police............or maybe not. Let's call our bosses instead. Somehow these PhD's, these administrators of higher learning, these arbiters of justice, interpret rape as "horseplay". They really had no other choice. If they would have done the right thing, they would have jeopardized the cash cow and all of its glorious athletic achievements. This gutless triumverate couldn't possibly make a more dishonorable decision in a hundred years..............unless they bury this incident and look the other way and make the rapist a "professor emeritus" and give him the keys and unfettered access to his house of horrors dungeon for the next ten years.
And one of the "tough" questions at today's news conference for the new zookeeper..........."Will Coach McCreary be on the sidelines or in the pressbox on Saturday?"..........................I've got a suggestion. How about in a jail cell with his pants around his ankles while he's tethered to the bed with a rather excited 350 lb. bull lifer behind him looking like the State of Pennsylvania just delivered his Christmas present a little early.

That piece of sh*t Paterno knew exactly who that monster on his staff was. He made him the assistant head coach. Sandusky was the heir apparent to the program. Paterno ran a program where the ranks were closed. He knew every detail about his program back in his pre-senility days. That freak on his staff didn't start diddling kids in the shower all of a sudden. Sandusky started his pedophile recruitment foundation in 1977. In 1998, the first formal complaint was filed with the police even though rumors about this bastard were raised four years earlier. Suddenly, a year later, Ol Joe had a change of heart and Sandusky was told he wouldn't be the next head coach. Probably because even an arrogant old f*ck like Paterno knows that "Head Coach/ Pedophile" doesn't look all that appealing on a business card, either to the Friends of the Program or to blue-chip recruits. Instead of handing him over on a platter to the authorities, he orchestrated his sideway advancement to professor emeritus with all the privileges and benefits. Unfortunately, this creep thought benefits included all the innocent childred he could possibly devour.

Why didn't JoPa throw this animal under the bus and drive it over him? I'm guessing in time we are going to find out that Ol' Joe was as dirty as every other football coach in America and creepy Uncle Jerry Sandusky knew every ugly detail and where every ugly skeleton was buried. Why else would a human being with a pulse allow a diseased predator to exit in his midst unless the predator could blackmail him for his indiscretions?

And all this for a football program?

clyde 11-10-2011 01:00 PM

yay

jms62 11-10-2011 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satan's twin (Post 816786)
It is absolutely incredible to read the stupid sh*t that gets posted here thread after thread, be it from the resident warlock who thinks it's premature to dismiss that criminally aiding and abetting head coach without "due process" or the PSU parent who suggests another poster is making "douchebag comments" for labeling this diaper-clad turd a criminal or others who see the student pep rallies in front of the criminal coach's home in a show of support as nothing other than "silly".

"SILLY"? Are you out of your f*cking mind? Those privileged dolts parading in front of Paterno's home don't have the balls or the brains to confront that reptile the way he should have been confronted. Holding a pep rally for 'Good Old Joe"? How about going there with torches and a noose.

First, the 28 year old twit who sees this monster raping a child in the shower runs away from the locker. What a f*cking hero. He should have bludgeoned the prick in the shower. No, he is so distraught, he calls his dad for advice, who's first concern is to call the head coach ?????????? Of course. It wouldn't dawn on you to call the police either while this was happening or THE NEXT DAY. And what, they don't have a 911 service in Pennsylvania? No problem, though. The coach will know what to do. He will call the police............or maybe not. Let's call our bosses instead. Somehow these PhD's, these administrators of higher learning, these arbiters of justice, interpret rape as "horseplay". They really had no other choice. If they would have done the right thing, they would have jeopardized the cash cow and all of its glorious athletic achievements. This gutless triumverate couldn't possibly make a more dishonorable decision in a hundred years..............unless they bury this incident and look the other way and make the rapist a "professor emeritus" and give him the keys and unfettered access to his house of horrors dungeon for the next ten years.
And one of the "tough" questions at today's news conference for the new zookeeper..........."Will Coach McCreary be on the sidelines or in the pressbox on Saturday?"..........................I've got a suggestion. How about in a jail cell with his pants around his ankles while he's tethered to the bed with a rather excited 350 lb. bull lifer behind him looking like the State of Pennsylvania just delivered his Christmas present a little early.

That piece of sh*t Paterno knew exactly who that monster on his staff was. He made him the assistant head coach. Sandusky was the heir apparent to the program. Paterno ran a program where the ranks were closed. He knew every detail about his program back in his pre-senility days. That freak on his staff didn't start diddling kids in the shower all of a sudden. Sandusky started his pedophile recruitment foundation in 1977. In 1998, the first formal complaint was filed with the police even though rumors about this bastard were raised four years earlier. Suddenly, a year later, Ol Joe had a change of heart and Sandusky was told he wouldn't be the next head coach. Probably because even an arrogant old f*ck like Paterno knows that "Head Coach/ Pedophile" doesn't look all that appealing on a business card, either to the Friends of the Program or to blue-chip recruits. Instead of handing him over on a platter to the authorities, he orchestrated his sideway advancement to professor emeritus with all the privileges and benefits. Unfortunately, this creep thought benefits included all the innocent childred he could possibly devour.

Why didn't JoPa throw this animal under the bus and drive it over him? I'm guessing in time we are going to find out that Ol' Joe was as dirty as every other football coach in America and creepy Uncle Jerry Sandusky knew every ugly detail and where every ugly skeleton was buried. Why else would a human being with a pulse allow a diseased predator to exit in his midst unless the predator could blackmail him for his indiscretions?

And all this for a football program?

:tro:Certainly the best post this thread has seen... It also occured to me I wouldnt be suprised to hear former Penn State players come out and say they were abused by this guy. You know the type the player with absolutely no talent and stars in his eyes and the dream of simply being part of the team.. They would be ripe for this vile predator.

Coach Pants 11-10-2011 02:01 PM

Very good assumption on Sanrapesky having dirt on OldPaw.

Danzig 11-10-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satan's twin (Post 816786)
It is absolutely incredible to read the stupid sh*t that gets posted here thread after thread, be it from the resident warlock who thinks it's premature to dismiss that criminally aiding and abetting head coach without "due process" or the PSU parent who suggests another poster is making "douchebag comments" for labeling this diaper-clad turd a criminal or others who see the student pep rallies in front of the criminal coach's home in a show of support as nothing other than "silly".

"SILLY"? Are you out of your f*cking mind? Those privileged dolts parading in front of Paterno's home don't have the balls or the brains to confront that reptile the way he should have been confronted. Holding a pep rally for 'Good Old Joe"? How about going there with torches and a noose.

First, the 28 year old twit who sees this monster raping a child in the shower runs away from the locker. What a f*cking hero. He should have bludgeoned the prick in the shower. No, he is so distraught, he calls his dad for advice, who's first concern is to call the head coach ?????????? Of course. It wouldn't dawn on you to call the police either while this was happening or THE NEXT DAY. And what, they don't have a 911 service in Pennsylvania? No problem, though. The coach will know what to do. He will call the police............or maybe not. Let's call our bosses instead. Somehow these PhD's, these administrators of higher learning, these arbiters of justice, interpret rape as "horseplay". They really had no other choice. If they would have done the right thing, they would have jeopardized the cash cow and all of its glorious athletic achievements. This gutless triumverate couldn't possibly make a more dishonorable decision in a hundred years..............unless they bury this incident and look the other way and make the rapist a "professor emeritus" and give him the keys and unfettered access to his house of horrors dungeon for the next ten years.
And one of the "tough" questions at today's news conference for the new zookeeper..........."Will Coach McCreary be on the sidelines or in the pressbox on Saturday?"..........................I've got a suggestion. How about in a jail cell with his pants around his ankles while he's tethered to the bed with a rather excited 350 lb. bull lifer behind him looking like the State of Pennsylvania just delivered his Christmas present a little early.

That piece of sh*t Paterno knew exactly who that monster on his staff was. He made him the assistant head coach. Sandusky was the heir apparent to the program. Paterno ran a program where the ranks were closed. He knew every detail about his program back in his pre-senility days. That freak on his staff didn't start diddling kids in the shower all of a sudden. Sandusky started his pedophile recruitment foundation in 1977. In 1998, the first formal complaint was filed with the police even though rumors about this bastard were raised four years earlier. Suddenly, a year later, Ol Joe had a change of heart and Sandusky was told he wouldn't be the next head coach. Probably because even an arrogant old f*ck like Paterno knows that "Head Coach/ Pedophile" doesn't look all that appealing on a business card, either to the Friends of the Program or to blue-chip recruits. Instead of handing him over on a platter to the authorities, he orchestrated his sideway advancement to professor emeritus with all the privileges and benefits. Unfortunately, this creep thought benefits included all the innocent childred he could possibly devour.

Why didn't JoPa throw this animal under the bus and drive it over him? I'm guessing in time we are going to find out that Ol' Joe was as dirty as every other football coach in America and creepy Uncle Jerry Sandusky knew every ugly detail and where every ugly skeleton was buried. Why else would a human being with a pulse allow a diseased predator to exit in his midst unless the predator could blackmail him for his indiscretions?

And all this for a football program?


well done.


and yeah, all this for a football program-peoples priorities have been skewed for years when it comes to star athletes and such.

somerfrost 11-10-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satan's twin (Post 816786)
It is absolutely incredible to read the stupid sh*t that gets posted here thread after thread, be it from the resident warlock who thinks it's premature to dismiss that criminally aiding and abetting head coach without "due process" or the PSU parent who suggests another poster is making "douchebag comments" for labeling this diaper-clad turd a criminal or others who see the student pep rallies in front of the criminal coach's home in a show of support as nothing other than "silly".

"SILLY"? Are you out of your f*cking mind? Those privileged dolts parading in front of Paterno's home don't have the balls or the brains to confront that reptile the way he should have been confronted. Holding a pep rally for 'Good Old Joe"? How about going there with torches and a noose.

First, the 28 year old twit who sees this monster raping a child in the shower runs away from the locker. What a f*cking hero. He should have bludgeoned the prick in the shower. No, he is so distraught, he calls his dad for advice, who's first concern is to call the head coach ?????????? Of course. It wouldn't dawn on you to call the police either while this was happening or THE NEXT DAY. And what, they don't have a 911 service in Pennsylvania? No problem, though. The coach will know what to do. He will call the police............or maybe not. Let's call our bosses instead. Somehow these PhD's, these administrators of higher learning, these arbiters of justice, interpret rape as "horseplay". They really had no other choice. If they would have done the right thing, they would have jeopardized the cash cow and all of its glorious athletic achievements. This gutless triumverate couldn't possibly make a more dishonorable decision in a hundred years..............unless they bury this incident and look the other way and make the rapist a "professor emeritus" and give him the keys and unfettered access to his house of horrors dungeon for the next ten years.
And one of the "tough" questions at today's news conference for the new zookeeper..........."Will Coach McCreary be on the sidelines or in the pressbox on Saturday?"..........................I've got a suggestion. How about in a jail cell with his pants around his ankles while he's tethered to the bed with a rather excited 350 lb. bull lifer behind him looking like the State of Pennsylvania just delivered his Christmas present a little early.

That piece of sh*t Paterno knew exactly who that monster on his staff was. He made him the assistant head coach. Sandusky was the heir apparent to the program. Paterno ran a program where the ranks were closed. He knew every detail about his program back in his pre-senility days. That freak on his staff didn't start diddling kids in the shower all of a sudden. Sandusky started his pedophile recruitment foundation in 1977. In 1998, the first formal complaint was filed with the police even though rumors about this bastard were raised four years earlier. Suddenly, a year later, Ol Joe had a change of heart and Sandusky was told he wouldn't be the next head coach. Probably because even an arrogant old f*ck like Paterno knows that "Head Coach/ Pedophile" doesn't look all that appealing on a business card, either to the Friends of the Program or to blue-chip recruits. Instead of handing him over on a platter to the authorities, he orchestrated his sideway advancement to professor emeritus with all the privileges and benefits. Unfortunately, this creep thought benefits included all the innocent childred he could possibly devour.

Why didn't JoPa throw this animal under the bus and drive it over him? I'm guessing in time we are going to find out that Ol' Joe was as dirty as every other football coach in America and creepy Uncle Jerry Sandusky knew every ugly detail and where every ugly skeleton was buried. Why else would a human being with a pulse allow a diseased predator to exit in his midst unless the predator could blackmail him for his indiscretions?

And all this for a football program?

Gee Satan's Twin, tell us how you really feel. I actually agree with many of your points, where I differ is that I do believe in due process and you are assuming a lot seems to me. Does Sandusky have dirt on Paterno? Perhaps but while that makes some intuitive sense it's a long way from fact. The chief complaint I have is that everyone seems so willing to accept that McCreary told Paterno the same thing he told the grand jury...this from a guy who walks into a scene where a young boy is being savaged by an old man and instead of stopping the child's torment, he turns and runs away. Is this a man of virtue and character, a man who years later tries to make himself into some sort of a hero in front of a grand jury? There is no defense for what Sandusky did and no defense for those involved in the coverup which allowed this animal to continue torturing kids, I just would like to see a little solid evidence that Paterno's motive was to participate in the coverup. All in all, now that it's done, PSU probably had no choice but to terminate Paterno's employment but it just adds to the foul taste in my mouth. I agree that the students rioting are clueless and should face prosecution where warranted. Finally, name calling does not advance your position...and I'm a witch, not a warlock...which is a negative term to us.

clyde 11-10-2011 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 816817)
Gee Satan's Twin, tell us how you really feel. I actually agree with many of your points, where I differ is that I do believe in due process and you are assuming a lot seems to me. Does Sandusky have dirt on Paterno? Perhaps but while that makes some intuitive sense it's a long way from fact. The chief complaint I have is that everyone seems so willing to accept that McCreary told Paterno the same thing he told the grand jury...this from a guy who walks into a scene where a young boy is being savaged by an old man and instead of stopping the child's torment, he turns and runs away. Is this a man of virtue and character, a man who years later tries to make himself into some sort of a hero in front of a grand jury? There is no defense for what Sandusky did and no defense for those involved in the coverup which allowed this animal to continue torturing kids, I just would like to see a little solid evidence that Paterno's motive was to participate in the coverup. All in all, now that it's done, PSU probably had no choice but to terminate Paterno's employment but it just adds to the foul taste in my mouth. I agree that the students rioting are clueless and should face prosecution where warranted. Finally, name calling does not advance your position...and I'm a witch, not a warlock...which is a negative term to us.



Satan's Dumb Ass is just like all the rest of the virtual bad men here.




And women.












Oh boy.


Its hard to ignore the big brave know everythings.


Were you busy?


I'm so sorry.

somerfrost 11-10-2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 816818)
Satan's Dumb Ass is just like all the rest of the virtual bad men here.




And women.












Oh boy.


Its hard to ignore the big brave know everythings.


Were you busy?


I'm so sorry.



No, just trying to avoid being caught up in this debate, it is a passionate subject and I understand why folks are angry...hell, I am too! But I just think that too often these things turn into lynch mobs and sometimes innocent folks get caught up in the mess. The concept of due process exists for good reason and as an old coot who remembers first hand days when some folks were not afforded same, in fact the term lynch mob was more than just a figure of speech, I can't help but wish that we wouldn't crucify folks in the arena of public opinion prior to knowing the truth.

clyde 11-10-2011 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 816825)
No, just trying to avoid being caught up in this debate, it is a passionate subject and I understand why folks are angry...hell, I am too! But I just think that too often these things turn into lynch mobs and sometimes innocent folks get caught up in the mess. The concept of due process exists for good reason and as an old coot who remembers first hand days when some folks were not afforded same, in fact the term lynch mob was more than just a figure of speech, I can't help but wish that we wouldn't crucify folks in the arena of public opinion prior to knowing the truth.


I do follow you...public opinion blows.



They want to play like they know everything and how oh so tough they are...and certainly THEY would report Johnny on the spot if they were in a similar situation.

I don't believe it.

I'm honest enough to say I am not sure what I would do...given a similar situtation.



The rest is just them dropping their i-net puds on the table.

clyde 11-10-2011 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 816827)
He is a scrawny, middle-aged, grey-haired man with a tired THUD Internet Land act.

If someone -- who had nothing better to do, like Morty -- actually took him up on his invite to come to his house, Morty would get his ass kicked so badly, it wouldn't be funny.

Even to a lame jokester like Morty.

Like I said once before...deeds, not words.

Calzone Lord 11-10-2011 04:55 PM

Before and After:


What Mike McQueary looked like before witnessing Sandusky buttfucl<ing a 10-year-old in the shower:




What McQueary looked like after witnessing it:


Dahoss 11-10-2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 816731)
Yeah, it's horrible of me to think that everyone out in the State College streets last night is not a despicable human being with no potential or future. Maybe I'll start posting in the paddock more. I saw my school called a cesspool. I simply disagreed and made some ironic points. The facts are you really don't know a single thing about me personally. It's a freaking message board.

It is a cesspool. After what went on there, the entire place is disgraced. Nothing against you personally, I don't know you, nor do I care to. But it is what it is.

I get they are college kids, but it doesn't excuse their ignorance. We all did (and continue to do) stupid things, and of course they aren't all despicable human beings. But at some point a little rational thought has to occur right?

Dahoss 11-10-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 816826)
I do follow you...public opinion blows.



They want to play like they know everything and how oh so tough they are...and certainly THEY would report Johnny on the spot if they were in a similar situation.

I don't believe it.

I'm honest enough to say I am not sure what I would do...given a similar situtation.



The rest is just them dropping their i-net puds on the table.

Touchy-touchy

Dahoss 11-10-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 816836)
I never knew that you were a horse racing fan.

Interesting reference.

I still can't believe Lukas ran him in the Gotham.

clyde 11-10-2011 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 816835)
Touchy-touchy



Tracky Bratty

clyde 11-10-2011 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 816836)
I never knew that you were a horse racing fan.

Interesting reference.



The things you don't know would fill PPJ's head.

Danzig 11-10-2011 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 816826)
I do follow you...public opinion blows.



They want to play like they know everything and how oh so tough they are...and certainly THEY would report Johnny on the spot if they were in a similar situation.

I don't believe it.

I'm honest enough to say I am not sure what I would do...given a similar situtation.



The rest is just them dropping their i-net puds on the table.

i won't bore you with the sordid details of my youth; but suffice it to say, that i can relate to the victims all too well, and would most definitely not stand idly by. i can't answer for others here, but i do know me.
people say 'walk a mile first'...some of us have.

satan's twin 11-10-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 816817)
Gee Satan's Twin, tell us how you really feel. I actually agree with many of your points, where I differ is that I do believe in due process and you are assuming a lot seems to me. Does Sandusky have dirt on Paterno? Perhaps but while that makes some intuitive sense it's a long way from fact. The chief complaint I have is that everyone seems so willing to accept that McCreary told Paterno the same thing he told the grand jury...this from a guy who walks into a scene where a young boy is being savaged by an old man and instead of stopping the child's torment, he turns and runs away. Is this a man of virtue and character, a man who years later tries to make himself into some sort of a hero in front of a grand jury? There is no defense for what Sandusky did and no defense for those involved in the coverup which allowed this animal to continue torturing kids, I just would like to see a little solid evidence that Paterno's motive was to participate in the coverup. All in all, now that it's done, PSU probably had no choice but to terminate Paterno's employment but it just adds to the foul taste in my mouth. I agree that the students rioting are clueless and should face prosecution where warranted. Finally, name calling does not advance your position...and I'm a witch, not a warlock...which is a negative term to us.

Somer--First of all, sorry about the witch/warlock mix-up. My bad. Just go ahead and deduct two bolts of fire and three demonic curses from my paycheck this week for that one.

I don't advocate the suspension of due process for anyone. I do think that the application of logic and common sense are enough to listen to evidence and pass judgment in a grand jury. That was done in this case and the results were released to the public. Based on that evidence, it was clear Paterno heard before anyone a despondent graduate assistant give an eye-witness account to him of a rape he witnessed less than a day before in the locker room, of a child, by the assistant head coach of Penn State. And based on what he heard that gutless creep chose not to call the police, as mandated by federal law, Instead, he put "his legacy", his self-interest, ahead of everything. The two sheep who,technically, sat in positions of authority over Paterno, then orchestrated a cover-up of the crime by labeling it "horseplay" and then lied to law enforcement officials about what they heard and what they knew. In fact, Paterno was, perhaps, the most revered person in the state and arguably, one of the most powerful. As we now know, neither of these eunichs had the moral compass to do the right thing. They swept the crime under the rug, kept a monster in place to commit despicable acts for another decade and, thank god, didn't ruffle the feathers of a great man and his legendary program.

Whether McCreary told Paterno a less damning version of events than the one he told the grand jury is irrelevant. Paterno already knew who Sandusky was. There were other reports about his actions before this one. Forget the allegations of rape. Who in their right mind would keep an employee on his staff who was known to take showers with little boys in the locker room? On top of that, this jerk let Sandusky parade a litany of young boys around his locker rooms for years knowing full well each of those boys was probably a victim of unspeakable acts by the twisted f*ck that he allowed to stand next to them.

It's be-witching to me that you would think I am jumping to conclusions in this case. When you're sitting over your cauldron tonight boiling a tasty pot of newts eyes, read the grand jury report for this case. I'll bet you get so damn mad after you finish reading it, you'll put a nasty hex on JoePa.

clyde 11-10-2011 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 816843)
i won't bore you with the sordid details of my youth; but suffice it to say, that i can relate to the victims all too well, and would most definitely not stand idly by. i can't answer for others here, but i do know me.
people say 'walk a mile first'...some of us have.




No you haven't...not until Tony is confronted with the same problem....and he wants you to tell him what to do.



Report to the police...and get fired and be blackballed?




No more ATM card 4 u.

Danzig 11-10-2011 05:44 PM

i'll just chalk your comments up to not knowing my husband nearly as well as i do. he wouldn't take time to call and ask me what to do, he'd already know what to do.

clyde 11-10-2011 05:45 PM

Oh really?



OK...if you say so.

jms62 11-10-2011 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 816847)
No you haven't...not until Tony is confronted with the same problem....and he wants you to tell him what to do.



Report to the police...and get fired and be blackballed?




No more ATM card 4 u.

If you get fired for reporting a crime like this then I would think you would never have to work again after winning massive lawsuit. This isn't Doctor Patient confidentiality that is being breached.

Calzone Lord 11-10-2011 06:36 PM

I hear the only reason why McQueary will be allowed to coach this week and probably won't be fired is because of the Whistleblower laws in the state of PA.

clyde 11-10-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 816856)
If you get fired for reporting a crime like this then I would think you would never have to work again after winning massive lawsuit. This isn't Doctor Patient confidentiality that is being breached.


Really?



Not so sure myself.

Danzig 11-10-2011 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 816856)
If you get fired for reporting a crime like this then I would think you would never have to work again after winning massive lawsuit. This isn't Doctor Patient confidentiality that is being breached.

yep, there are whistleblower laws to prevent you from being punished because you ratted out some bigshot who would 'never, ever' do anything because he's 'not stupid'. you know, the assmussen defense.

there are people who won't open their mouths, because they don't want to get caught up in stuff, or they're scared, etc. thankfully not everyone is like that.
my husband gets grief at work because he opens his mouth-he's a safety advocate now, so he butts heads with his supervisor who is after production quotas. thankfully there are people who want things right, not fast, and make sure rules are followed.

Danzig 11-10-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 816860)
I hear the only reason why McQueary will be allowed to coach this week and probably won't be fired is because of the Whistleblower laws in the state of PA.

you may be right, slate had a piece asking why is he still there.

Calzone Lord 11-10-2011 07:58 PM

1982 article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...85/1/index.htm


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