Will's Way, Skip Away, Siphon, Formal Gold.

Or the year that had Gentlemen, Skip Away, Will's Way and Formal Gold.

I love it, one of the comments calls Steve the Limbaugh of racing....Haha. I'm sure you'd be happy to cash Rush's paycheck.

Somebody should print the list of people that Byk has shown extraordinary kindness and generosity to in this game. In fact, his biggest fault is being too nice.

Spend A Buck ?

Steve Byk: "...in the meantime, before we do that, let me welcome in Seth Merrow."

Seth Merrow: "I...I'm scared."

I thought Steve was going to jump out of my computer. dayum.:eek:

It's all opinions. Davidowitz said, “There’s a very unusual dimension to her, and there are to all great horses. They have something different.” He said that he knows that many will disagree with him, and that that's fine. He's just telling what he sees, and why not? It's what he gets paid to do. He also said that Z is, “the best older racemare I have ever seen.” Again, it's his opinion.

Sidebar: There's a lot of talk about trying to bring people back to horseracing, or introduce new people to the sport. Many experienced players seem to worry a lot that newcomers are going to think that Z is perhaps better than she is. Yes, a lot of newbies are going to believe that Z is the greatest horse, whether or not she is. But, people seek out greatness, and if they're new to the sport then maybe she is the greatest horse that they've ever seen. And yeah, maybe you can come back at them with 100 reasons why they're wrong, and if you do, what have you accomplished if you beat them over the head with it?

Another statement that is impossibly clueless to the point that I don't know if you are serious or just stirring the pot.

Why would you possibly think that they aren't going to run in the BC Classic? Of course she will run in the BC Classic. The only way she won't is if she gets hurt. The BC Classic is their goal and has been all year.

She will probably only run twice between now and then. I guess if she loses one of her next two races, that could change their plans. But otherwise she will definitely be there.

I didn't think it required explaining, I was hoping that folks would see the juxtaposition of Smooth Operator's critique of Winning Colors for only going 8 of 19 and a short list of several other HOF-worthy fillies and mares who also didn't win 50 percent of their starts and further note the sheer ludicrousness of his statement.

They're not going to run in the Breeders Cup Classic, quite simply, because 20 for 20 will be on the line, and if there's a chance she could lose, I'd bet a bazillion dollars they'll keep her in SoCal this November to go for that all-time mark.

After all the hemming and hawing about her schedule in the past, I don't know why it's suddenly a foregone conclusion that she'll be in Louisville this November.

Whats up with this surface issue crap? I hate synthetics, BUT ITS PART OF THE GAME, AND TAKES NOTHING AWAY FROM ZENYATTA.

I'll bet you however much money you want when the time comes. Winning the BC Classic is much more important to them than beating Pepper's Pride's streak.

If that were the case, she's be retired right now. SHe's in training for some sort of Zenyatta victory tour and to set the all-time modern day wins mark. I just can't imagine that is going to include a trip to Louisville. Given what we know about the connections and the kid gloves with which they handle the mare, going to Louisville would be beyond out of character.

Agree, if shes healthy shes at Churchill this year. Regardless of how good/deep the group is coming up, they will not skip the Classic.

When was he in his prime? Like 2 weeks a year?

or winning the SA Derby by 12

One of the main reasons they brought her back was because they honestly believed she could beat Rachel. They brought her back so that she could face Rachel. They also want to win HOY this year and they know that they have to win the BC Classic to do it.

Are you insinuating that RA will be in the BC Classic? I think thats a longer shot than Z being there

I have no idea if RA will be there. I think it will depend on how she progresses between now and then. If they don't feel she's back to 100%, I don't think she will be there.

That's when horseracing jumped the shark, when feelings came into play...

If RA wins her next couple of races impressively and she looks like she's doing well, I think they will run her in the BC Classic.

Not a chance in hell....Mickey Mouse and Arnold the Pig could be the only entrants and she would still be watching from a CA stall....

He kinda comes off a bit wimpy, if anything.

I'm glad he read halfowitz the riot act. Especially since it was Halfowitz that started the interruptions and talking over bits.

Let me get this straight.

You want to take the bet that she will run, but only once she's definitely going to run?

Open G1 contests with $5 million purses impress me FAR more than restricted crapshoots for very young animals on the first Sat in May.

Seems like some fillies mature quicker and can more easily compete with colts early in their 3-year-old seasons

Usually a different story later in the year or when they turn four

WC's front-running score in the Derby was commendable … but something she never could've duplicated in a race like the BCC.

Somehow I don't think Shirreffs would've been shaking in his boots at the prospect of facing an 8 for19 monster like WC … lol


More to say to the usual nitwits … but gotta run now :$:

As I said, if she wins her next couple of races and she doesn't get hurt, I am confident she will run. If she doesn't get hurt and she wins her next couple of races, I would be happy to make the bet. I wouldn't need to wait until after the entries are drawn. I'd make the bet a month before the race. That would give the Mosses plenty of time to back out since some people are so sure that they will back out.

You keep repeating that they won't run her in the Classic, but you got strangely quiet when I accepted your offer of a wager on the subject.

Here's your challenge:

Here's how I responded:


You asked me to name my price. I did. Hello? Is anyone there?

--Dunbar

Just like he's not afraid of taking on the "highest mountain possible" that is Rail Trip.

NT

If you owned Zenyatta would you be looking to face Rail Trip in what would figure to be a paceless race (and probably a 4 horse field) at his favorite track? I certainly wouldn't.

Who knows, maybe the owner of Zardana will want to run there.

And when she beats Rail Trip, you will see posts like well Rail Trip isn't Quality Road, let's be honest here no matter who she beats or has beaten thus far, this is the theme of her critics.

It's nice you caught your mistake of saying "reoccurring them" and removed 'them' instead of changing 'them' to 'theme', but while you are at it, you might want to spell 'recurring' correctly.

Looks like you've had a smooth operation on your brain.

THe Comments at the bottom of the Paulick Report are Hilarious last I Looked there were 80+ and counting

At this point I wouldn't care about getting my a.ss kissed running against fillies and mares and I'd actually look to challenge my mare. Of course, I would have taken her to Dubai without a doubt and told Jess Jackson, Charles Cella, and anyone else, the hell with your $5 million, I'm going to run for 10.

This is the problem that I have with this horse. Her fans are so fervent in their belief that she's so great that they're starting to believe what the connections say. If you think Zenyatta is the "greatest mare of your lifetime" and an all-time great, then how the hell do you leave her in the barn when a 10f (her supposed best distance) against a horse with a marginal resume is going on? It's absolutely ludicrous.

Besides, regarding your pace question, listen to Davidowitz, she's impervious to it. And as for CS, the chief green and pink flag waver, I'd be the first to say that Rail Trip is the best horse Zenyatta's beaten who was actually running on their preferred surface.

NT

CSC... to be fair the year isn't over after Delmar or the Spa unlike for some horses, you will reserve judgement to who she faces after these meets correct? Wouldn't this be fairer if you are to be truly critical of her campaign?

They're going to challenge their mare against the best colts in the world in November.

I agree with Davidowitz that she is "relatively" impervious to pace. I don't think Davidowitz believes that she is 100% impervious to pace. I think he knows that it is better for her if the pace is fast. Davidowitz never said she could win a match race with Quality Road. I don't think Davidowitz thinks she would win a match-race with Quality Road. And I don't know if any horse in training could beat Rail Trip right now at Hollywood Park.

not at all true. If she took on males with consistancy and ran well.. won or lose.. her connections and her "legacy" would have a ton more respect.

Rail Trip got a dream trip in a Gr.2 carrying 118lbs, I repeat 118lbs in a GRADE 2. Suddenly he is the Quality Road of the west...some of you guys should think about this, I'm not sure if this was the same mindset I heard for Zardana after she beat Rachel or Unrivaled Belle, but talk about annointing a horse? I give you Rail Trip.

I disagree. If she goes undefeated and wins the BC Classic this year for the 2nd year in a row, I think her legacy will be greater than if she ran against the boys a few more times and lost.

I don't know how many times I have to say this, the year doesn't end after Delmar or the Spa.