nobody i know of.

Did anyone cathch Durkin doing his best Trevor impression? He missed him totally.

at the 3/8ths when he started running but the rest of the field was tied to a hitching post, how did the rail cause that?

The horse will never win again, unless by some miracle he catches a field that did not run to their form on a slop track, if thats the case I like him.

He was so focused on the 3 battling in the middle of the track he never knew. Hell, even after he saw him, he stumbled trying to recognize who it was!!

I thought he was shocked because he seemed to have paused to think of who it was and kind of laughed once he realized who it was.

Totally, Not only did he miss him. He couldn't even figure out who it was when he finally spotted him.

How many times have I noted that this jock repeatedly does that(and gets away with it.)

Give Borel all the credit. He believes in saving ground which is a foreign concept to 90% of these jocks.

Did anyone just hear what Gary Stevens said??

That was funny

Stevens

"no reason to think this is not a triple crown type of horse".

Just curious what does everyone think of Pioneer of the Nile's performance today? Was it enough to end the synth/dirt debate?

:rolleyes:

It's different for every horse, just because PotN does well doesn't mean the same rule applies for every horse.

Not sure, I have to watch the race again. But I though he was pretty much in the clear the whole race. Meaning he handled the track, but I'm not sure if he had to or would have handled all the mud in his face. He did run well, but he was still beaten by over 6 lengths to a horse off the New Mexico circuit. So my answer is yes and no.

Rail bias or not that bunch is going to turn out to be turd-o-riffic to get bent over like that.

What was the final time anyhow?

2:02.4

lol

had he ridden, he'd be stevens newest best horse ever.

I think Durkin was just as shocked as anybody and probably didn't think he even had to call that name.

This proved one thing to me, I hope IWR and Quality Road get into the Preakness because I don't want anyone out of this race. What happened to FF? Stopped badly.

I agree with you dahoss, but you are going to hear all week it was the rail, but he was easily the best and the rail only just exacerbated that, i guess cause of the slop more then anything else.

IWR is done IMO, the other needs months off probably.

Can't blame him... I don't think anybody knew who the phuck that was. He looked beyond impossible. I know that Durkin handicaps the race before so he knows what to look for, he probably looked at him and said forget this one and move on like the rest of him.

Funny thing is I thought he was a decent longshot in the BCJ.

It's something that will come up again next year I'm certain, it's early but he looks like an early choice for the Preak, hopefully QR and IWR will be there to offer up a fair price. He was closer the pace today and he never found the best part of the track, he can run on mud, one wonders if he would have won this race if it were a fast track. The only thing certain we learned today was Mine That Bird is a mudder X10.

they already said a few days ago that the preakness won't happen for QR. and, depending on what they find with revenge, i don't see him making it in two weeks with heat in his ankle today.

he was 10th that day, wasn't he?

Durkin didn't see this horse until he was 5 lengths in front.Very poor job.And to me POTN and the others looked like a pack of tired out dogs.Too bad for the winning connections this horse is a gelding,but at least he has a good chance to keep racing instead of being retired to stud.Goodie for us!!

one good thing. but i don't know what to think about this horse going forward.

Who knows.. maybe the next "seabiscuit" :rolleyes:

Supposedly this horse was Canada's two year old of the year.

12th and last. Chantal rode him.

i don't think he was a gelding.

edit~nope, just checked. sired just over 100 foals.

Anybody have a complete order of finish??

yeah, i heard them say that. the next northern dancer....:zz:

Interesting notice he was 4/6 on polytrack and 0/2 on dirt until today with a previous lifetime best beyer of only 81. How's that for confounding stats? How did he only go off at 50/1? You can't always count on stats, beyers, historical angles. Duh?

His breeding really isn't that bad,and he should run all day with Birdstone on top.I don't know much about his Dam,gonna look it up now.

the colonial colony of three year olds.

she's a smart strike, other than that....

What makes it worse is that you can't even embrace the small time people making it big because, besides Borel, these people are dreadful.