I loved it, as I'm sure the rest of the board does as well.

Brian, you are misunderstanding me. These celebs I speak of, are the ones who throw the "stupid money" around creating bad underlays. Thus I am fully aware of the "stupid money". They arent stupid people (obviously) but they simply can afford to lose 100K without blinking an eye. I dont think the degenrates you see filling up OTBs on Tuesdays are the ones who create underlays.

Its the only race of the year you can count on the celebs to throw around "stupid money".

after smartys last work pre-derby, cella got ins for the other half of the bonus. he's no dummy.

Yeah... his insurance was he bought a win ticket for $500k! The insurance company was asking for $1mm for the $2.5mm coverage, and he said "well damn, I can just bet him to win and get better than that!"

I plan on doing the same thing this year, just gotta find the right horse first.

i can't remember the last time i was this close to the derby and really had no inkling of which way to go. so many with no shot, and so few standing in their way! i almost breathed a sigh of relief when i saw war pass was out, as that would be one less to play in the rttr game. but that's only one out, stll have to choose who to insert.

crazy year.

And to my point exactly, a celebrity who exposes him or herself to horse racing for one day a year doesn't know the Illinois Derby from the Dubai World Cup from the Wood Memorial.

A huge bold number will be staring them in the face, and Recapturetheglory will get horribly overbet just like every Illinois Derby winner.

I'm not sure if jokes about Nick Lachey or jokes about David Carroll galloping Easy Goer are more washed up and unfunny at this point in time. Tough call.

Hey man,

at exactly the 4 minute mark of this clip, you'll hear that Jan Rushton galloped Easy Goer as a 2yo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cCqhfuJIp0

I would soooo bet any Jan Rushton trained horse in the Champagne upon learning this exciting information.

Nick Lachey is a huge bettor too. Now that he got rid of his wife, he has even more money to play with. I wouldnt be surprised if Nick wagered 100K on this race. This guy has more money than Tiger Woods.

I doubt he has more money than Tiger Woods, that is a HUGE stretch.

Censorship at its finest. Well done.

You'd be surprised how much he makes one of his songs are played on the radio or downloaded. Not to mention his cologne ads and muscle ads. He payed paid over 5 million for that reality show he did with his wife a couple years ago. Hes also a big gambler and has reportedly taken Vegas for millions on dozens of occasions.

Dont be jealous now.

off thread, but anyone jealous of a celebrity is an idiot

Tiger Woods is making $112 million a year.

I'm jealous that he was spanking Jessica Simpson, that is about it.....

I like his new one much better!

yeah what the hell is Gander talking about, Tiger Woods is second behind Oprah Winfrey for highest paid.

Come on Gander, Lachey makes more than Tiger??? Get outta here with that junk.

Okay maybe I was exaggerating a bit. Tiger gives most of his money away though. I doubt Nick does.

Anyone know the intentions of Indian Sun, Tomcito, My Pal Charlie, and Hey Byrn? Do they intend to run if they get in or are they already pointing elsewhere? If the fillies don't go, and Behindatthebar doesn't we are just one defection away from one of those horses getting in.

Are you sure? Before any of them get in Denis of Cork and Halo Najib get in.

My Pal Charlie is being pointed to the Lone Star Derby, connections stated there would have to be at least five defections from the Ky Derby for them to consider

Yeah, if neither filly enters and Behindatthebar doesn't go then those two would be in and the next defection would mean one of those others would be able to get in if they wanted to.

The mention of one or both fillies possibly being entered is really screwing everything up. I wish these guys would make up their mind one way or another and stop teasing the public.
Its really lame to enter and see what post they draw, and most likely scratch if its anything but a "perfect post." This should not be allowed. I mean the connections came right and said what they're intentions were and its okay that 1 or 2 horses may not get in because of the luck of the draw?

We all know when the gates open, there isnt going to be any fillies in there.
Just a bunch of egomaniacs blowing smoke up the public's asses.

The attached article on the bloodhorse website states, "Brereton Jones’ Proud Spell and Fox Hill Farms’ Eight Belles both are probable to be cross-entered in the Derby and the Kentucky Oaks (gr. I)." However, per Jay Privman's DRF article on Monday, Larry Jones is quoted as saying "Proud Spell, if she draws a really crappy post in the Oaks, we might cross-enter her in the Derby. But I'd say that's only 15-85."

If both fillies enter in the Derby, I don't see how Denis of Cork will make the field and Bob Black Jack won't get in if Behindatthebar decides to run. If Todd Pletcher wants to help ensure a fast pace in the Derby (which could lessen the chances of Big Brown), he might want to make sure Bob Black Jack gets in.

http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=44756

You can expect Behindatthebar to run now as it appears yet another major share of him has been sold (est. $2MM) and the new connections intend to run. Todd Pletcher, who would prefer to wait until Preakness with him, has told CD to put him back on the 'probable' list.


1 Pyro 1,020,000
2 Tale of Ekati 738,000
3 Colonel John 720,000
4 Gayego 640,000
5 Big Brown 600,000

6 Z Humor 579,000
7 Monba 515,000
8 Court Vision 331,872
9 Z Fortune 329,000
10 Adriano 310,000

11 Recapturetheglory 300,000
12 Smooth Air 290,000
13 Cool Coal Man 212,767
14 Anak Nakal 212,216
15 Eight Belles (f) 210,000

16 Cowboy Cal 207,660
17 Behindatthebar 204,500
18 Visionaire 202,500
19 Big Truck 194,500
20 Bob Black Jack 180,000

21 Denis of Cork 165,000
22 Halo Najib $157,996
23 Indian Sun $154,000
24 Tomcito $151,292

My feelings on this are that it's a shame if a colt or two that would run if entered gets shut out.. but I think CD created it's own problem.. that is if the officials at Churchill even care.
I think the owners of the fillies have every right to cross-enter since it's within the rules.. I don't like it.. but it's their right.
BBJ and Denis of Cork (the two horse now at #21 & #22) have a much better chance of winning the KY Derby, IMO, than the fillies.

It is folly to ever assume that someone with an eligible horse will opt out of the Derby.

Sanan bought Behindatthebar this spring for a reason, and it wasn't to run in the Lexington.

The bigger problem, IMHO, is the gamesmanship of the system by some owners. And by some owners I mean Fox Hill Farm. Someone at CD should be leaning on Rick Porter VERY heavily making the point that in the next few days, he needs to decide whether to fish or cut bait.

Sanan actually was OK with not running in the Derby with this horse and waiting for Baltimore. With the prospective new partner coming into the mix for a reported $2MM, the scenario changed.

Dennis of Quark
 

steve,
do you see a horse like Cowboy Cal scratching out of top 20 and Dennis of Quark getting in? i live here in SC And really enjoy the program on sirius and the trrrn. I work at Churchill during Derby week and would like to meet you if
possible. I am a mutuel clerk for the last 17 years here at Derby Time. I own my own insurance agency the rest of the year.. also will you be doing dailt picks next week from churchill?

Henry

H,

I don't think anyone will demure from the field without an injury. Denis of Cork looks more and more doubtful right now and it's tough to swallow given that he looks as good as any horse out on the track these last several days...

Thx for listening to ATR.. Glad you enjoy it and would be happy to meet at the Downs this week. Lots of DT there too. Will look at the P4's at CD and the Oaks/Derby cards. Tough this week with tons going on though. HOL carry Wednesday has to be covered too.

See you at CD!