Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Apparently identifying sarcasm is NOT one of your strong suits.

Originally Posted by redransom

As a former racetrack groom, I'm here to tell you there's a giant difference between "wraps" and "bandages" and "rundowns" and where they all go and what they're all for.

Bandages in the true sense are what goes on a horse in his stall. Standing, sweats, poultices, spiders...

Wraps are usually used during training and are "polo" types, discussed above, or "tracers" which resemble ace bandages and are used for both protection and added support. Of course some also use tight vetwrap bandages on horses when training when the horse needs it; I was lucky to never have had one of them. I had a mare, who won a stakes at Ellis Park in 1997, who had some ankle issues and we used tracers on all fours for her and that was more than sufficient.

Oh and racing bandages are called "rundowns" when on hind legs and are, basically, vetwrap around the ankles and a rundown patch over the top (or back of the ankle, in this case.) I think this is what you were referring to when you mentioned preventing burns, which is called running down. For front bandages, which is what the "f" in the Form is for, it's the same thing, only wrapped tightly for support rather than prevention of running down, nine times out of 10. I've seen a horse or two actually run down in front, too. But it's rare...

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I disagree, Jessica. I've been wrapping horses since I was 6 years old, so yeah, I know how to wrap as well and I haven't ever caused a bowed tendon either. It CAN happen, though and that is the primary reason that smart horsemen will not wrap their horses with POLO wraps while trailering (bandage bows.) As you know, there are different types of boots and leg protection gear to use while riding and while I personally use polo wraps during routine riding, I do so because of the protection they offer to the exterior of the horses leg (especially for horses who overreach, etc.) I use jumping boots, splint boots etc for actual support and my trainer will not "hook" polo wraps because there IS a risk in doing that, and when you've got eventers that are worth a quarter of a million buckaroos, you don't want to chance it. :D

Polo wraps got their name because they were originally popular among polo players. Their usefulness has long since expanded into most every other discipline. Polo wraps, usually made of cotton-blend fabric, offer wide-spectrum protection, depending on how they are used. People who use polo wraps like them because of their versatility, since different parts of the leg can be protected, depending on how they are applied. Using polo wraps, however, requires some experience, since a leg can be easily damaged by a wrap that has been applied improperly. They also require more maintenance than leg boots in order to maintain their usefulness and elasticity.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Thanks for the correct terminology red ransom. That's good stuff.

Originally Posted by outofthebox

I dont know of any race track that allows horses running in races with polos, or did someone mention that already. Years ago in California we would use gelo casts under vet wrap or aces in the aide of more support. Well after a few trainers claimed these horses wearing the casts underneath the wraps, they complained to the racing board and it wasn't long before the rule of only vet wrap or similar designed products, and ace bandages were allowed for racing purposes..

Originally Posted by outofthebox

I dont know of any race track that allows horses running in races with polos, or did someone mention that already. Years ago in California we would use gelo casts under vet wrap or aces in the aide of more support. Well after a few trainers claimed these horses wearing the casts underneath the wraps, they complained to the racing board and it wasn't long before the rule of only vet wrap or similar designed products, and ace bandages were allowed for racing purposes..

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Thorograph has their numbers posted for the entire card on Saturday. I encourage you to take a look at it.

One number jumped out. A Negative 2 by Street Sense in the juvenile even while being checked on the turn in the race.

I will go on record as saying this horse will not run a negative number in his entire 3 yr old year and very likely not again in his career. I am no fan of numbers like that this early. Mind you also that front wraps were added for this start as well. The ultimate squeeze the lemon scenario and I think he is finished. He is a bet against from here on out.

Originally Posted by mclem10011

Should be strong, would not suprise me to see him ML fav, still a few preps to go though.

Originally Posted by magic_idol

I take it street sense won ?:confused:

Originally Posted by paisjpq

yes he did...by a nose

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Would this be bumped had he lost by a nose? If he ran up the track? I highly doubt it.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

You bumped it yourself the other day to help me to understand why he is finished.

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I stand by it. He beat 1 horse today and ran better than I thought he would. That number as a two year old was the best ever for any juvenille winner. If he is the second coming of Secretariat he will show it.

And the sad thing is, I wasn't rooting against him in the least. Not at all. I think it would be great if a juvy winner could win the Derby....But if you follow Thoros and believe in them the call made sense. Nothing I saw today changes that.