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RHT2004 10-26-2016 09:27 AM

100-1 feels fair to me. I give her almost no chance to win.

Alabama Stakes 10-26-2016 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1079971)
100-1 feels fair to me. I give her almost no chance to win.

I'll take a little of that 100-1. Didn't you see her in the Alabama? Or couldn't you see it from your hiding spot ?

-BT- 10-26-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1079971)
100-1 feels fair to me. I give her almost no chance to win.

it's ignorant comments like this......................that keep me away from here, hats off. Every thread you touch is a lightning rod for controversy, just lob the grenade and run the other way.

-bt-

RHT2004 10-26-2016 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 1079973)
it's ignorant comments like this......................that keep me away from here, hats off. Every thread you touch is a lightning rod for controversy, just lob the grenade and run the other way.

-bt-

Beholder, Unbridled Forever and Stellar Wind are all better/faster. What did I say that was ignorant? If Songbird is 3-1 or 7-2 I'll bet huge against her in all pools. I dont think she can win this race.

freddymo 10-26-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1079974)
Beholder, Unbridled Forever and Stellar Wind are all better/faster. What did I say that was ignorant? If Songbird is 3-1 or 7-2 I'll bet huge against her in all pools. I dont think she can win this race.

You know this is as dumb a comment as Anthony Stabile saying she is the greatest filly of all time on Twitter. Is there a morsel of levity in you? She is clearly extraordinary and while I get you like others as do I, she clearly shouldn't be beyond 5/2 in anyone's way of thinking. We all from time to time loathe 2/1 shots and feel they are WAY over rated but in are brains we know they are not 100/1 shots without a reasonable chance. To just suggest so about a multiple grade 1 filly that has shipped throughout country, never been less the 3.5 lengths in front of her G1 competition at the best circuits in the states is 100/1 is just awful to post

freddymo 10-26-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 1079973)
it's ignorant comments like this......................that keep me away from here, hats off. Every thread you touch is a lightning rod for controversy, just lob the grenade and run the other way.

-bt-

Well said Cheers

Pants II 10-26-2016 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1079971)
100-1 feels fair to me. I give her almost no chance to win.

Thanks for reminding me to use I'm a Chatterbox in multis.

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-26-2016 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1079977)
Thanks for reminding me to use I'm a Chatterbox in multis.

right on the money sir! ...... as usual :$: the "value" in the Distaff :)

Sightseek 10-26-2016 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1079975)
You know this is as dumb a comment as Anthony Stabile saying she is the greatest filly of all time on Twitter. Is there a morsel of levity in you? She is clearly extraordinary and while I get you like others as do I, she clearly shouldn't be beyond 5/2 in anyone's way of thinking. We all from time to time loathe 2/1 shots and feel they are WAY over rated but in are brains we know they are not 100/1 shots without a reasonable chance. To just suggest so about a multiple grade 1 filly that has shipped throughout country, never been less the 3.5 lengths in front of her G1 competition at the best circuits in the states is 100/1 is just awful to post

I can't believe I'm doing this.... :tro:

:D

Dunbar 10-27-2016 08:45 AM

Here are some BCC odds from 5Dimes:
"-130" means you put up $130 to win $100. (which is a little worse than 4-5)
"+280" means you get 2.8-1.

In the 1st 3 odds, you'd get your money back if your horse doesn't start, and it's also no bet if either CC or Arrogate doesn't start.

In the rest of the odds, it's a bet no matter who starts.

California Chrome & Arrogate must run for action
Sat 11/5 101 California Chrome wins Classic
-130
8:35PM 102 Field wins Classic
-110

Arrogate & California Chrome must run for action
Sat 11/5 103 Arrogate wins Classic
+280
8:35PM 104 Field wins Classic
-400

Frosted & California Chrome must run for action
Sat 11/5 105 Frosted wins Classic
+800
8:35PM 106 Field wins Classic
-1700

Breeders' Cup Classic - Antepost Winner
all horses have action regardless if selected horse runs
Sat 11/5 201 California Chrome wins Classic
-120

all horses have action regardless if selected horse runs
Sat 11/5 203 Arrogate wins Classic
+300

all horses have action regardless if selected horse runs
Sat 11/5 205 Frosted wins Classic
+1000


Melatonin 25-1
Shaman Ghost 22-1
Nyquist 30-1
Hopportunity 33-1
Gun Runner 26-1
Effinex 35-1

Dunbar 10-27-2016 09:18 PM

I wrote, "In the 1st 3 odds, you'd get your money back if your horse doesn't start, and it's also no bet if either CC or Arrogate doesn't start." That's not correct for the bet on Frosted at +800. It doesn't matter if Arrogate starts or not.

casp0555 10-29-2016 10:25 AM

Nyquist is out.....Privman tweeted he was injured

From DON

https://www.facebook.com/dougoneillr...56323054388093

Alabama Stakes 10-29-2016 10:12 PM

Upon further review since beholder , when running against the girls is very heavily bet, she will be co fave , with stellar wind drifting up to 4-1 chatter and unbrid will both be about 8-1

jms62 10-29-2016 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1080294)
Upon further review since beholder , when running against the girls is very heavily bet, she will be co fave , with stellar wind drifting up to 4-1 chatter and unbrid will both be about 8-1

Beholder is a beast @SA and last race has some doubting her. So looking forward to that race.

Kasept 10-31-2016 11:40 AM

Curalina in Distaff..

Kasept 10-31-2016 01:53 PM

Unless there's a last minute change of heart, FOUND running in the Turf..

Kasept 10-31-2016 02:15 PM

10 to go postward in Classic..

Arrogate
California Chrome
Effinex
Frosted
Hoppertunity
Keen Ice
Melatonin
Shaman Ghost
War Story
Win the Space

knickslions2 10-31-2016 02:23 PM

Melatonin is an interesting play in the exacta here

RHT2004 10-31-2016 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1079975)
You know this is as dumb a comment as Anthony Stabile saying she is the greatest filly of all time on Twitter. Is there a morsel of levity in you? She is clearly extraordinary and while I get you like others as do I, she clearly shouldn't be beyond 5/2 in anyone's way of thinking. We all from time to time loathe 2/1 shots and feel they are WAY over rated but in are brains we know they are not 100/1 shots without a reasonable chance. To just suggest so about a multiple grade 1 filly that has shipped throughout country, never been less the 3.5 lengths in front of her G1 competition at the best circuits in the states is 100/1 is just awful to post

Little bit of a hypocrite, no?? Your bashing her on twitter saying she is no better then 5th. Pretty much exactly what I said.....

RHT2004 10-31-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1080423)
Melatonin is an interesting play in the exacta here

I can see an insane situation happening where the race totally falls apart and Hoppertunity wins. Between Chrome, Arrogate and Melatonin the pace could get very hot.


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