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jms62 11-17-2010 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 724221)

Not too sure about your list. What am I missing

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...l/pennsylvania

AeWingnut 11-17-2010 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 724314)
Not too sure about your list. What am I missing

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...l/pennsylvania

hmmm, no idea. you would think that the leading sire of PA breds for 2010 would be the same no matter who published it. I think your list is probably correct.

bigdog_14086 01-10-2011 06:20 PM

Redboard King: 1/10/11
 
Just won the 6th at Penn National

Heels1989 01-10-2011 06:21 PM

Redboard winner at Penn National this evening. Gate to wire.

Princess Doreen 01-10-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Heels1989 (Post 741491)
Redboard winner at Penn National this evening. Gate to wire.

Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-10-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741512)
Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.

I feel the same way

Scav 01-10-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741512)
Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.

At a certain point you have to ask yourself and team when is it time to get a win to stop asborbing the costly expense of owning a racehorse. Dropping to that 7.5k level was exactly the right move off his effort before the race. He is and will be a nickel claimer, good nickel claimers get claimed, it isn't like he was gonna be an allowance horse. A 10nw3 race at Penn National is probably like the 7.5nw3 at Philly. I'll grant anyone that a win is a win, but when Chuck get one claimed off him, not many go on to improve.

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-10-2011 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 741520)
At a certain point you have to ask yourself and team when is it time to get a win to stop asborbing the costly expense of owning a racehorse. Dropping to that 7.5k level was exactly the right move off his effort before the race. He is and will be a nickel claimer, good nickel claimers get claimed, it isn't like he was gonna be an allowance horse. A 10nw3 race at Penn National is probably like the 7.5nw3 at Philly. I'll grant anyone that a win is a win, but when Chuck get one claimed off him, not many go on to improve.

I don't she meant anything by her statement.......but, thanks for the input, some of us know the game ;)

phystech 01-11-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 741520)
At a certain point you have to ask yourself and team when is it time to get a win to stop asborbing the costly expense of owning a racehorse. Dropping to that 7.5k level was exactly the right move off his effort before the race. He is and will be a nickel claimer, good nickel claimers get claimed, it isn't like he was gonna be an allowance horse. A 10nw3 race at Penn National is probably like the 7.5nw3 at Philly. I'll grant anyone that a win is a win, but when Chuck get one claimed off him, not many go on to improve.

Couldn't agree more with your message and I'm glad you wrote it.

And, if I may add - even after a horse gets claimed from a partnership/trainer, it's ok for that horse to go on and do well for his/her new owners!!! As the former owner, I've never been embarrassed if the horse makes some money and wins a few races for the new owner. It's OK!!

Turning over horses can be profitable and no partnership or owner can survive by constantly losing money.....

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-11-2011 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by phystech (Post 741619)
Couldn't agree more with your message and I'm glad you wrote it.

And, if I may add - even after a horse gets claimed from a partnership/trainer, it's ok for that horse to go on and do well for his/her new owners!!! As the former owner, I've never been embarrassed if the horse makes some money and wins a few races for the new owner. It's OK!!

Turning over horses can be profitable and no partnership or owner can survive by constantly losing money.....

Again, I don't think her post meant anything wrong......we understand that part of the game :)

Princess Doreen 01-11-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 741660)
Again, I don't think her post meant anything wrong......we understand that part of the game :)

Somebody's saying I'm wrong? LOL! Get on line. I understand the game - just disappointed he's no longer in the partnership even if he's just a "nickel claimer". He's running, he's sound, he's making some money. Continued good journeys for him. Looking forward to hearing about a replacement in the partnership.

Scav 01-11-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 741660)
Again, I don't think her post meant anything wrong......we understand that part of the game :)

You understand the claiming part of the game, or all the costs that go into the game?

Cannon Shell 01-11-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741512)
Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.

Wouldn't this be classified as a redboard?

Cannon Shell 01-11-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741662)
He's running, he's sound, he's making some money. Continued good journeys for him. Looking forward to hearing about a replacement in the partnership.

I always wonder how people know this?

MaTH716 01-11-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 741719)
I always wonder how people know this?

Some people just know everything.

Fortunately for me I married one of them.

:zz:

herkhorse 01-11-2011 03:19 PM

Hey, get in line people!!

Princess Doreen 01-11-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 741719)
I always wonder how people know this?

He's run at least 10 times since April and no report of injuries or problems were reported to the partnership.

Cannon Shell 01-11-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741773)
He's run at least 10 times since April and no report of injuries or problems were reported to the partnership.

While your reasoning may seem valid, you really don't know if he is sound or not. Assumptions like this are one of the reasons why this business is so misunderstood.

The horse was given a chance to prove that he was better than a cheap, non-winners type of horse. He didn't show that he was and we ran him in a spot where we thought we had the best chance of winning. The fact that someone claimed him (there was only 1 claim) is simply the risk you take when you enter claiming races. We replaced him with another horse who got claimed on the raise. You win some, you lose some. Hindsight in terms of claiming or not claiming horses is pointless.

Princess Doreen 01-11-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 741779)
While your reasoning may seem valid, you really don't know if he is sound or not. Assumptions like this are one of the reasons why this business is so misunderstood.

The horse was given a chance to prove that he was better than a cheap, non-winners type of horse. He didn't show that he was and we ran him in a spot where we thought we had the best chance of winning. The fact that someone claimed him (there was only 1 claim) is simply the risk you take when you enter claiming races. We replaced him with another horse who got claimed on the raise. You win some, you lose some. Hindsight in terms of claiming or not claiming horses is pointless.

Chuck, I'm not questioning your putting him in a claiming race. I fully realize that's where he had to have been placed. I'm just regretting that he got claimed - that's all. Out of 4 horses in the partnership, we're down to one - Lloydobler. He has yet to break his maiden. The other two horses - Missus Mayflower and Run Burgandy didn't work out - they're off, hopefully, to green pastures elsewhere. So, of the 4 horses, Redboard King has done the best. That's all I'm saying. And, I truly hope the new owners/trainers are not racing an unsound horse if that's what he is.

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-11-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 741697)
You understand the claiming part of the game, or all the costs that go into the game?

Explain it to me........:p yes, a matter a fact I do!


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