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blackthroatedwind 04-03-2010 10:24 AM
I assume you are talking about Personal Ensign and I don't think she ever ran at Aqueduct.

richard 04-03-2010 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 631825)
Spoken like a true diehard. Anyone who has a ****in' clue is betting WO and making some money. BTW, Doofus, my ROI last year for the entire WO meet was something like +18%. So, keep paying for your data (and your opinion) and betting the shitty cards at NYRA tracks. That's what they're banking on: that idiots like you will stay around no matter what.
there's some truth to your words .

Port Conway Lane 04-03-2010 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 631926)
I assume you are talking about Personal Ensign and I don't think she ever ran at Aqueduct.
More than likely it was her two year old year at Belmont. I could only guess that Gulch won some 2yo stake race on the same day.
The memories get more and more like a jigsaw puzzle:zz:

dalakhani 04-03-2010 04:20 PM
that was pretty impressive

RockHardTen1985 04-03-2010 04:20 PM
Never ever ever ever asked him to run, how much is left in the tank for the Derby? Gotta be a lot.

randallscott35 04-03-2010 04:21 PM
Why the wraps?

RockHardTen1985 04-03-2010 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 632042)
Why the wraps?
Does it matter?

randallscott35 04-03-2010 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 632044)
Does it matter?
For certain trainers it sure does. Ask Big Brown when they got added how much more was left in the tank a few races later. Ask Barbaro(wore them in GP 2 starts bacl)....etc etc....in young horses who shouldn't need them.

knickslions2 04-03-2010 04:36 PM
We all wish we bet Big E at 5-1 in last future pool. Wont be close to that now.

freddymo 04-03-2010 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 632045)
For certain trainers it sure does. Ask Big Brown when they got added how much more was left in the tank a few races later. Ask Barbaro(wore them in GP 2 starts bacl)....etc etc....in young horses who shouldn't need them.
Like Smarty Jones? He wore them in every start that I remember.

randallscott35 04-03-2010 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 632047)
We all wish we bet Big E at 5-1 in last future pool. Wont be close to that now.
How did people feel after the Wood winner last year? 4 weeks is an eternity.

freddymo 04-03-2010 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 632047)
We all wish we bet Big E at 5-1 in last future pool. Wont be close to that now.
What do you think heis going to be 3/1 or 5/2.. 5 to 1 is a horrible bet

randallscott35 04-03-2010 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 632048)
Like Smarty Jones? He wore them in every start that I remember.
Another quite short career....Depends on the trainer is all I'm saying. Pletch is not someone who uses them often at all.

NTamm1215 04-03-2010 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 632045)
For certain trainers it sure does. Ask Big Brown when they got added how much more was left in the tank a few races later. Ask Barbaro(wore them in GP 2 starts bacl)....etc etc....in young horses who shouldn't need them.
I wasn't thrilled to see the wraps either but he might have a tendency to run down.

NT

randallscott35 04-03-2010 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 632052)
I wasn't thrilled to see the wraps either but he might have a tendency to run down.

NT
That's what they all say.

jms62 04-03-2010 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 632051)
Another quite short career....Depends on the trainer is all I'm saying. Pletch is not someone who uses them often at all.
Wood Winner always gets grossly overbet however this year it appears justified.

randallscott35 04-03-2010 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 632054)
Wood Winner always gets grossly overbet however this year it appears justified.
He deserves to be the Derby fave, I agree with that.

knickslions2 04-03-2010 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 632050)
What do you think heis going to be 3/1 or 5/2.. 5 to 1 is a horrible bet
5-2 at best. Unless someone else really shines can't see him more then 2-1.

freddymo 04-03-2010 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 632059)
5-2 at best. Unless someone else really shines can't see him more then 2-1.
If Looking at Lucky wins in a few minutes he will take a ton of money!!!

10 pnt move up 04-03-2010 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 632061)
If Looking at Lucky wins in a few minutes he will take a ton of money!!!
maybe a sunday silence - easy goer part 2?


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