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Antitrust32 05-05-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
yes - he didn't get into him until the last 4f's or so no?


isnt that exactly what i said with my last post?

HaloWishingwell 05-05-2009 02:17 PM

I never gave a crap about the Sunland Derby and I'm not going to start analyzing it now. If it offends anyone then next year go there and get your picture taken next to their "The Derby Champ came from Sunland" sign.

Antitrust32 05-05-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell
I never gave a crap about the Sunland Derby and I'm not going to start analyzing it now. If it offends anyone then next year go there and get your picture taken next to their "The Derby Champ came from Sunland" sign.


well I'm offended.

Antitrust32 05-05-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So wait, Mine That Bird only ran for like 4 furlongs and rode the rail? I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.


hey dummy.. it wasnt 4 furlongs it was a half of a mile.

JerseyJ 05-05-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
but he was on the inside the whole way no?

I am a new poster here, but I will respond to this in a way to try and help explain to you what everyone is trying to say. If you take a look at internal fractions for the 3rd Race, a Maiden Special Weight, look at the internal fractions of the winner, Luv Gov and third place finisher Big Flirt. At the half mile pole, Luv Gov was approximately 5 3/4 lengths in front of Big Flirt, while having a nice rail run under Miguel Mena. At the three quarter split mark, Luv Gov is only 4 1/2 lengths in front of Big Flirt, and ends up by the time he hits the mile split, he's 5 3/4 lengths in front of Big Flirt. So Big Flirt gains 1 1/4 lengths on him from the half mile marker to the three quarter mile marker, until Luv Gov makes a giant run up the rail to regain those 1 1/4 lengths back as both horses run that split in exactly the same 48.4. so because of that rail run Luv Gov is able to get the distance and time that he needs to in order to angle out and explode past a tired Gold Brew. Just an example for you of how even being down on the rail for a short period of time can help, as Luv Gov's rail position enabled him to save ground and be on the better part of the track when Big Flirt tried to make a move if you watch the replay.

sdjcom 05-05-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
well what can you attribute it to? surely it has to be something? it just can't be one of those unexplained events

jet fuel in the feed

Antitrust32 05-05-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom
jet fuel in the feed


well the trainer said he was getting equine massages the week before so maybe he was just tense in his other races? or no?

slotdirt 05-05-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
I am a new poster here, but I will respond to this in a way to try and help explain to you what everyone is trying to say. If you take a look at internal fractions for the 3rd Race, a Maiden Special Weight, look at the internal fractions of the winner, Luv Gov and third place finisher Big Flirt. At the half mile pole, Luv Gov was approximately 5 3/4 lengths in front of Big Flirt, while having a nice rail run under Miguel Mena. At the three quarter split mark, Luv Gov is only 4 1/2 lengths in front of Big Flirt, and ends up by the time he hits the mile split, he's 5 3/4 lengths in front of Big Flirt. So Big Flirt gains 1 1/4 lengths on him from the half mile marker to the three quarter mile marker, until Luv Gov makes a giant run up the rail to regain those 1 1/4 lengths back as both horses run that split in exactly the same 48.4. so because of that rail run Luv Gov is able to get the distance and time that he needs to in order to angle out and explode past a tired Gold Brew. Just an example for you of how even being down on the rail for a short period of time can help, as Luv Gov's rail position enabled him to save ground and be on the better part of the track when Big Flirt tried to make a move if you watch the replay.

With all due respect, I don't think a Traveling Wilbury could explain what gales is trying to say.

Antitrust32 05-05-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
With all due respect, I don't think a Traveling Wilbury could explain what gales is trying to say.


I dont even think Gales can explain what he is trying to say.

sdjcom 05-05-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
well the trainer said he was getting equine massages the week before so maybe he was just tense in his other races? or no?

after seeing that race i would believe anything , massages may be the trick. i really think the horse thought if i don't win the derby my ass will be riding 17 1/2 hrs back in stead of flying f-that

slotdirt 05-05-2009 02:35 PM

I ran my fastest marathon ever after receiving a massage the week before. It must work!

Sightseek 05-05-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
well the trainer said he was getting equine massages the week before so maybe he was just tense in his other races? or no?

This is what Dutrow said turned around Saint Liam.

sdjcom 05-05-2009 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
This is what Dutrow said turned around Saint Liam.

what surprized me was the horse just ran 1 1/4 mile with 126 lbs and he look like he just stepped on to the track when calvin walk him around the crowd then over to receive thropy, the horse didn't even look tired, and i'm sure 126 lbs. stopped alot of horses sat on the rough trk

HaloWishingwell 05-05-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
well I'm offended.

Don't forget the camera

Danzig 05-05-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
hey dummy.. it wasnt 4 furlongs it was a half of a mile.


:zz: :D

2Hot4TV 05-05-2009 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I dont even think Gales can explain what he is trying to say.

And everybody knows DeHoss doesn't know what he's trying to say.

MaTH716 05-05-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
but he was on the inside the whole way no?

I feel like I'm stuck in the middle of a bad Abbot and Costello bit.

31lengths 05-05-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
Hey, I aint one to gossip or tell stories, but i heard it was a one horse trailer being pulled by a 10speed bike, up hill in the snow, the whole way......:zz:

....with TWO broken ankles.....


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