Un****ing believable that they find it necessary to show that....

Thank God they got that footage. It's really relevent to this weekend's race.

Sadly it's not unbelievable.

Unfortunately I agree. There is something morally corrupt about showing the death of a living being to grab a few ratings points...

The track cushion has been made deeper and deeper over the years ...

Have the horses become more sound as a result?

A lot of times when the track is very fast - it is wrongly viewed to be speed favoring by jocks and horseman - and the races tend to be a little more demandingly run.

I guess let's just run everything on poly track where the distance horses go 50 and change under holds and still fade through the stretch.

I'd hate to see a track like the one Gulfstream had on Sunshine Millions day.

yes

Is your avatar a bet with John White that POTN finishes exactly 8th in the Derby?

I enjoy Jon White a lot for the most part.

If POTN wins the Derby - I will have an avatar of myself here for the rest of the year.

If POTN finishes ahead of IWR - I will have an avatar of myself till Preakness day.

Everyone keeps begging for more television coverage... Well we got it.

They showed that Nascar crash a bunch of times this morning on ESPN too.

When the cameras are present, this is what you get.

I hope the NTRA doesn't take away the safety accreditation.

Don't you already?

Not quite.

And if POTN wins the triple crown ... naked photos.

Not exactly a great analogy. This was an accident outside of competition and unrelated to the Derby. The Nascar crash was during a race.

However, I understand why it was on, I just think it's unfortunate.

I guess that we'll have to agree to disagree over the relative speed of the Churchill racing surface this weekend. But just like all stakes races are not equal, neither are all claiming races. Sometimes, they come up tougher than usual; other times not. The races this weekend at Churchill all seemed to come up universally weak for the respective class levels, so we're not necessarily comparing apples to apples.

The inner track was slower than usual this winter (with admittedly weak horses sometimes clocking miles in 1:41 or 1:42) because of the cold winter preventing the NYRA track maintenance crew from watering the track, the result being a very dry, cuppy racing surface.

The 1:39 and 1:40 times to which I was referring were to one turn miles. In this regard, a perfect example of an abnormally slow, tiring racing surface was Aqueduct on Saturday, April 11. Churchill on Saturday pales in comparison.

Wouldn't that accomplishment be upsetting enough?

It is unfortunate, I agree.

But you and I both know these accidents happen every morning. There just isn't anyone there to see it.

When outside media shows up, they usually show the extremes of anything.

They won't show the replay of the Stephen Foster on CNN, but they'll show horses and/or people in an accident.

Just like they won't have a spot just showing traffic flowing nicely, but they'll feature a grisly wreck.

Let's not make this one of those Kurt Paseka/El Senor situations.

i really laughed

How about 2 recent TURF against-the-PACE 'classics':

1) Winter View in the Bewitch

2) Madeo in the Ingelwood.

Surprisingly, even Vic knows enough to understand that it's all about WHEN you move and not the fractions.:rolleyes:

You are doing quite a number on my ankles.

I saw Kurt this weekend.