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Left Bank 04-27-2009 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by philcski
C'mon KG, you make it sound like there should be a coloring book provided to everyone that walks in the door explaining what to do when a horse poops in the post parade. If you heard he had a bar shoe and didn't know what that meant, couldn't you just ask someone? Or pull out your Blackberry or Iphone and google it? We live in an age of information, if someone is too lazy to take it upon themself and learn they deserve to lose.
They should only care if the track has been certified by the NTRA!!:D
I bet none of them would even know what that means.

Antitrust32 04-27-2009 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I don't play the stock market. But if, before I invest in a company, I read that they will be bankrupt, I know what bankrupt means. If before I bet on the Derby, I read that Quality Road is running in a bar shoe, and it's my first time at the track, I doubt that I know what a bar shoe is or what it means to how he'll perform.

so what? what is the issue here??

If someone new to poker sits down at my table and doesnt know a full house beats a straight... am I supposed to explain??

Antitrust32 04-27-2009 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
folks going to the derby this wknd for the most part won't become fans. they'e going to a happening, not a horse race.

if anyone wants to make new fans, take your friends or aquaintances to the track. teach them. or your kids, like i have.

and the new folks who dont know that QR has a quarter crack.. well they dont care anyway. They know Baffert. They know cute names. They know colorful silks.. thats all they care about and unfortunatly they get beginners luck and still win by betting silks.

Payson Dave 04-27-2009 04:48 PM
I'm sure if he had run, then the press and the talking heads would have been making the issue of his problems with two feet known to all...even to the most novice of attendees

SCUDSBROTHER 04-27-2009 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
exactly... I dont see what the issue is.

maybe KG wants to socialize gambling??

It's already Socialized. You see anybody in this country competing for the price they're gunna give you on a horse?

sdjcom 04-27-2009 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
If they didn't withdraw, and intended to run Saturday, and people went ahead and bet him knowing all that has gone on since the minute he stepped into the winners circle at the FLA Derby....then they deserve to have their money taken and served a cold dose of injustice. That's the beauty of parimutuel wagering, you can win foolish/uninformed people's money.
I agree with you for regular players,they should pay attention however on derby day you have thousands of people who bet the tip sheets and hype horses, for that one day. it's our premier race of the year and i feel no horse that's not 100% should run.

hockey2315 04-27-2009 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC
Take out one of the top 2 favorites and it won't?
You said, "This will hurt the pool, the trickle down effect will be huge."

I'm not sure how a relatively high priced major contender scratching could possibly "hurt" the pool unless for some reason you think a very significant portion of people are going to pass on the race just because Quality Road is out? Is that what you're saying?

CSC 04-27-2009 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315
You said, "This will hurt the pool, the trickle down effect will be huge."

I'm not sure how a relatively high priced major contender scratching could possibly "hurt" the pool unless for some reason you think a very significant portion of people are going to pass on the race just because Quality Road is out? Is that what you're saying?
I understand what you are saying now, what I mean't was it would significantly lower the odds on other horses in the race. Most notably the horses that were 3rd and 4th in betting and on down. Regardless of his chances he was an attractive bet to many, he would have taken alot of money in this race, now that money is going to be dispersed elsewhere.

hockey2315 04-27-2009 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC
I understand what you are saying now, what I mean't was it would significantly lower the odds on other horses in the race. Most notably the horses that were 3rd and 4th in betting and on down. Regardless of his chances he was an attractive bet to many, he would have taken alot of money in this race, now that money is going to be dispersed elsewhere.
Fair enough. . . I wouldn't define this as "hurting the pool." You could certainly argue that it hurt value on other contenders if you were planning on playing against QR, though, obviously. . .

Sightseek 05-08-2009 08:29 PM
Doubtful for the Belmont, sore in the right fore and popped an abscess:

http://www.drf.com/news/article/103635.html


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