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Cannon Shell 05-19-2008 03:48 PM

I'm not sure why they would be concerned with the horses 'value' since the breeding rights have already been sold. If he wins the TC his stud fee wont go up or down no matter what he wins or loses. I cant believe that they can get more than $100k and if he were to win the TC and if he were to get beat in the Travers I cant believe they wouldnt still get the same 100k.

Cannon Shell 05-19-2008 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Grassy Knoll 518
Wake Up And Smell The Horse **** Please. Big Brown Performances Have Been Great But They Were Done Artificially Thru Steroids & Illegal Tactics. Just Look At The Group Surrounding Him Their A Bunch Cheats Who Will Do Anything To Make A Dollar. Just Like In Other Sports Cheaters Are Allways Ahead Of the Testing and Rules (Ben Johnson, Marion Jones, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, BALCO LABS). IEAH and DUTROW R No Different Their Using Somethin On Their Horses That Is Undetectable By Current Testing. So To Compare This Artificial Horse and Shady Group Of Criminals To A HORSE RACING ICON Is Ridiculuos. Its Guys Like DUTROW and IEAH Who R Killing The BREED In NORTH AMERICA With What They Give Thier Horses Whether Legal Or Illegal. Big Brown No Matter What He Accomplishes Should Never Be Mentioned With Secretariat Because Of The People Hes Connected With Their Flat Out Cheats Period. Lets Go Casino Drive...........

Please go away...

ateamstupid 05-19-2008 03:51 PM

It's threads like this that create such polarization between Big Brown fans and detractors, because detractors can now point to this ****** and say "He's good, but he's not Secretariat", as if every fan of the horse has made that comparison.

Cannon Shell 05-19-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
It's threads like this that create such polarization between Big Brown fans and detractors, because detractors can now point to this ****** and say "He's good, but he's not Secretariat", as if every fan of the horse has made that comparison.

Big Brown sucks. He only got a 78 CSSF (Cannon Shell Speed Figure). He got a raw CSSF of 106 but got a 28 point reduction for possum head running second.

Payson Dave 05-19-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Big Brown sucks. He only got a 78 CSSF (Cannon Shell Speed Figure). He got a raw CSSF of 106 but got a 28 point reduction for possum head running second.

that does make ya wonder

Cannon Shell 05-19-2008 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
that does make ya wonder

-28 for PHF in routes on dirt
-18 for PHF in dirt sprints

I told him about this but he didnt think it was funny...

TheSpyder 05-19-2008 04:54 PM

Hey Chuck, What was the KNS CSSF number?
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
-28 for PHF in routes on dirt
-18 for PHF in dirt sprints

I told him about this but he didnt think it was funny...


Cannon Shell 05-19-2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Hey Chuck, What was the KNS CSSF number?

96

67 raw number but added +29, using the "same vet as catalano" factor.

Payson Dave 05-19-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
-28 for PHF in routes on dirt
-18 for PHF in dirt sprints

I told him about this but he didnt think it was funny...


He must be taking himself to seriously....if so he may be the only one who takes him seriously

Cannon Shell 05-19-2008 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
He must be taking himself to seriously....if so he may be the only one who takes him seriously

His barber doesn't

TheSpyder 05-19-2008 05:29 PM

Very nice!:p
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
96

67 raw number but added +29, using the "same vet as catalano" factor.


Danzig 05-19-2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I have actually worked up a quick translation of the initial post for those not willing to read it in its entirety.....



I have very little perspective on the top horses of the game over even the last 10 years, but I will pick the horse generally considered the best of the last half century, and completely inaccurately compare Big Brown to him.


the 'blackthroated digest condensed post'--excellent idea!

docicu3 05-19-2008 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I thought Steve made it pretty clear, no?


Originally Posted by Kasept
Congratulations.. you just bought your ticket out of here for insulting yet another person who works inside the industry and has more credibility here than you... Those that can't interract with others to the standards set here can ply their nonsense elsewhere...

Bye..

Thanks Hoss I didn't see that previously and have not read enough of the guys posts to be aware of how slimy these posts were. I was giving the guy the benefit of the doubt but obviously I was better off not knowing more about what earned the guy the death penalty here.......next case professor!!

docicu3 05-19-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Oh Boy. We lose one and pick up another. It must be Happy Time in the local asylym.

hey

Or they are one in the same......


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