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Cannon Shell 04-14-2008 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasept
If Eight Belles goes Saturday instead of Friday, it is Rick Porter and NO ONE ELSE making the decision. Even the consideration of her in the Derby has Porter's ham-handed fingerprints all over it. If Jones were making the call and was forced to run one of the 2 in the Derby, it would be Proud Spell, who is far better suited for the task.
Personally I dont think they have any intention of running in the Derby, Porter is most likely just keeping his name in the media spotlight by suggesting it. He knows how to manipulate the racing media, not that it is very hard.

ArlJim78 04-14-2008 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
You do also realize the Alina was coming in off a 100 Beyer, something very few of the males have been able to do this year.
And Alina had positional advantage and Pure Clan forced Eight Belles to run three wide on the turn yet she still ran Pure Prize down who like you said was razor sharp. a very good race I thought for Eight Belles.

cakes44 04-14-2008 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
You do also realize the Alina was coming in off a 100 Beyer, something very few of the males have been able to do this year.
Yes, and you are welcome to take her huge figure from the bullring at Delta at face value if you wish. I guess Alina should think about going to the Derby too?

FGFan 04-14-2008 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Personally I dont think they have any intention of running in the Derby, Porter is most likely just keeping his name in the media spotlight by suggesting it. He knows how to manipulate the racing media, not that it is very hard.
I really hope that is the case here.

I am very high on both Proud Spell and Eight Belles, really enjoyed seeing them both here at the Fairgrounds this winter.
Both are really magnificent fillies in the paddock and on the track. Hope they stay in the Oaks and go 1,2 in whatever order.

cakes44 04-14-2008 01:35 PM
Put any of War Pass, Bob Black Jack, Gayego, or Big Brown in Alina's spot and tell me what happens.

smuthg 04-14-2008 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cakes44
Yes, and you are welcome to take her huge figure from the bullring at Delta at face value if you wish. I guess Alina should think about going to the Derby too?
Alina will be no less than 10-1 in the Oaks and probably 3rd choice behind Country Star and Proud Spell (assuming E/B is in the Derby).

smuthg 04-14-2008 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cakes44
Put any of War Pass, Bob Black Jack, Gayego, or Big Brown in Alina's spot and tell me what happens.
Given the difference in trip and Eight Belles breaking in the air, she runs second. Tell me any 3YO (colt or filly) that given the circumstances Eight Belles faced, beats any of those four colts with the trip Alina had...

SniperSB23 04-14-2008 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cakes44
Yes, and you are welcome to take her huge figure from the bullring at Delta at face value if you wish. I guess Alina should think about going to the Derby too?
I wouldn't take it at face value if she hadn't comeback to validate it in the Fantasy.

I don't think Alina is nominated to the Triple Crown. These males are so bad this year though that anyone with a filly nominated has to give it some serious thought.

cmorioles 04-14-2008 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by smuthg
Alina will be no less than 10-1 in the Oaks and probably 3rd choice behind Country Star and Proud Spell (assuming E/B is in the Derby).
Country Star favored? I sure hope so...

philcski 04-14-2008 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cmorioles
Country Star favored? I sure hope so...
Was thinking the same thing. Phony.

lostcode 04-14-2008 06:13 PM
I like those 4 horse fields
 
Yes Eight Belles of the 6 ad 4 horse fields the last 2 races. Pretty much the same as running in a 20 horse derby! God I hope they run her in the derby, every dollar bet on her is wasted money.


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