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Scav 04-19-2008 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
I may have read here that BYK is at the track in Lexington. I imagine he's trying to find a way to post right now, but at this point the aisles are slick with vomit and pandemonium has broken out in anticipation of the most wide open, crazy Derby ever!

Byk has 30 hours in a day, I would almost guarantee that he will have it updated by about 7pm CST

mbahadur 04-19-2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Lets go Bykster, hook us up with some updated earnings and defections :)

From Downeyprofile.com website

Last Updated April 19, 2008

1 Pyro 1,020,000
2 Tale of Ekati 738,000
3 Colonel John 720,000
4 Gayego 640,000
5 Big Brown 600,000
6 Z Humor 579,000
7 Monba 515,000
8 Court Vision 331,872
9 Z Fortune 329,000
10 Adriano 310,000
11 Recapturetheglory 300,000
12 Smooth Air 290,000
13 Salute the Sarge 258,940
14 Cool Coal Man 212,767
15 Anak Nakal 212,216
16 Eight Belles (f) 210,000
17 Cowboy Cal 207,660
18 Behindatthebar 204,500
19 Visionaire 202,500
20 Big Truck 194,500
21 Bob Black Jack 180,000
22 Denis of Cork 165,000

I would consider the following 3 horses questionable:
Salute the Sarge (finished 7th in the Lexington),
Eight Belles (would be the favorite in the Oaks),
Behindatthebar (the owner was interviewed on TVG after the race and was not committal about the Derby -- the horse ran back today after 16 days and would come back to the Derby in 14 days and has questionable dirt form based on his 5th place finish in the El Camino Real).

Bob Black Jack makes the field if one of the above 3 defect or an injury occurs to another horse.

Denis of Cork (who I would love to see Calvin Borel on for the Derby at high odds) makes the field if 2 of the above 3 defect or if one of the above defects and an injury occurs to another horse on the list.

Scav 04-19-2008 06:53 PM

Thanks yo

mbahadur 04-19-2008 06:55 PM

Julien Leparoux has picked up the mount on Cool Coal Man per the DRF.

hockey2315 04-19-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mbahadur
Julien Leparoux has picked up the mount on Cool Coal Man per the DRF.

That sucks. . . I was hoping for Cornelio now that WP is out. . .

Buffymommy 04-20-2008 06:40 AM

I hope BBJ gets in. His last race showed me something about him and I want to see more or find out if he is just a sprinter, I am thinking he may not be.

Gander 04-20-2008 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
I hope BBJ gets in. His last race showed me something about him and I want to see more or find out if he is just a sprinter, I am thinking he may not be.

I think the last race showed he isnt just a sprinter. And switching to dirt imo would be more beneficial to his running style. He is a better horse when he makes the lead, not when he sits just right off it. I'd like to see this horse get sent to the lead in the Derby. At 15/1 or higher, there are definetely worst stabs in this race, especially now that his chief rival War Pass is out. I also like the fact Solis was so eager to committ to this horse 3 weeks prior to the Derby, instead of playing the waiting game and shopping around, if you will. Lots to like.

Kasept 04-20-2008 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mbahadur
Last Updated April 19, 2008

1 Pyro 1,020,000
2 Tale of Ekati 738,000
3 Colonel John 720,000
4 Gayego 640,000
5 Big Brown 600,000
6 Z Humor 579,000
7 Monba 515,000
8 Court Vision 331,872
9 Z Fortune 329,000
10 Adriano 310,000
11 Recapturetheglory 300,000
12 Smooth Air 290,000
13 Salute the Sarge 258,940
14 Cool Coal Man 212,767
15 Anak Nakal 212,216
16 Eight Belles (f) 210,000
17 Cowboy Cal 207,660
18 Behindatthebar 204,500
19 Visionaire 202,500
20 Big Truck 194,500
21 Bob Black Jack 180,000
22 Denis of Cork 165,000

Thanks mbahadur for the quick posting of the list...

Salute the Sarge now 99% out, so make it like this with both fillies highly questionable and assuming Behindathebar goes:

1 Pyro 1,020,000
(X) Proud Spell $880,000
2 Tale of Ekati 738,000
3 Colonel John 720,000
4 Gayego 640,000
5 Big Brown 600,000
6 Z Humor 579,000
7 Monba 515,000
8 Court Vision 331,872
9 Z Fortune 329,000
10 Adriano 310,000
11 Recapturetheglory 300,000
12 Smooth Air 290,000
13 Cool Coal Man 212,767
14 Anak Nakal 212,216
(X) Eight Belles (f) 210,000
15 Cowboy Cal 207,660
16 Behindatthebar 204,500
17 Visionaire 202,500
18 Big Truck 194,500
19 Bob Black Jack 180,000
20 Denis of Cork 165,000

21 Halo Najib $157,996
22 Indian Sun $154,000
23 Tomcito $151,292
24 My Pal Charlie $150,000
25 Hey Byrn $140,000

Spent a good part of the a.m. today with David Carroll, and Denis of Cork who works 5/8ths tomorrow at 8:30 and looks terrific physically. Carroll is cautiously optimistic about the chances of Denis running and is still rather irked about having had his plan interfered with by Mike Ryan and Mark Reid.

Oaklawnfan 04-20-2008 09:34 AM

I wish Denis of Cork could make the trip. He's the only live futures wager I have left.:confused:

Scurlogue Champ 04-20-2008 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Thanks mbahadur for the quick posting of the list...

Salute the Sarge now 99% out, so make it like this with both fillies highly questionable and assuming Behindathebar goes:

1 Pyro 1,020,000
(X) Proud Spell $880,000
2 Tale of Ekati 738,000
3 Colonel John 720,000
4 Gayego 640,000
5 Big Brown 600,000
6 Z Humor 579,000
7 Monba 515,000
8 Court Vision 331,872
9 Z Fortune 329,000
10 Adriano 310,000
11 Recapturetheglory 300,000
12 Smooth Air 290,000
13 Cool Coal Man 212,767
14 Anak Nakal 212,216
(X) Eight Belles (f) 210,000
15 Cowboy Cal 207,660
16 Behindatthebar 204,500
17 Visionaire 202,500
18 Big Truck 194,500
19 Bob Black Jack 180,000
20 Denis of Cork 165,000

21 Halo Najib $157,996
22 Indian Sun $154,000
23 Tomcito $151,292
24 My Pal Charlie $150,000
25 Hey Byrn $140,000

Spent a good part of the a.m. today with David Carroll, and Denis of Cork who works 5/8ths tomorrow at 8:30 and looks terrific physically. Carroll is cautiously optimistic about the chances of Denis running and is still rather irked about having had his plan interfered with by Mike Ryan and Mark Reid.

Don't forget about Massive Drama

Kasept 04-20-2008 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ
Don't forget about Massive Drama

AW..

Not coming according to Haskin from Zayat's stable manager guy. (Zabu or whatever they call him). Derby Trial and Woody Stephens intended. That's as of yesterday... (And seems especially probable given that Halo could very likely get in with an injury/defection or two..)

Scurlogue Champ 04-20-2008 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
AW..

Not coming according to Haskin from Zayat's stable manager guy. (Zabu or whatever they call him). Derby Trial and Woody Stephens intended. That's as of yesterday... (And seems especially probable given that Halo could very likely get in with an injury/defection or two..)

Thank god...

mbahadur 04-20-2008 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Thanks mbahadur for the quick posting of the list...

Salute the Sarge now 99% out, so make it like this with both fillies highly questionable and assuming Behindathebar goes:

1 Pyro 1,020,000
(X) Proud Spell $880,000
2 Tale of Ekati 738,000
3 Colonel John 720,000
4 Gayego 640,000
5 Big Brown 600,000
6 Z Humor 579,000
7 Monba 515,000
8 Court Vision 331,872
9 Z Fortune 329,000
10 Adriano 310,000
11 Recapturetheglory 300,000
12 Smooth Air 290,000
13 Cool Coal Man 212,767
14 Anak Nakal 212,216
(X) Eight Belles (f) 210,000
15 Cowboy Cal 207,660
16 Behindatthebar 204,500
17 Visionaire 202,500
18 Big Truck 194,500
19 Bob Black Jack 180,000
20 Denis of Cork 165,000

21 Halo Najib $157,996
22 Indian Sun $154,000
23 Tomcito $151,292
24 My Pal Charlie $150,000
25 Hey Byrn $140,000

Spent a good part of the a.m. today with David Carroll, and Denis of Cork who works 5/8ths tomorrow at 8:30 and looks terrific physically. Carroll is cautiously optimistic about the chances of Denis running and is still rather irked about having had his plan interfered with by Mike Ryan and Mark Reid.


Steve: Any word form David Carroll about who would ride Denis of Cork should he get in the Derby field ? Albarado and Leparoux are already committed to other mounts.

Kasept 04-20-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ
Thank god...

:D

sundaysilenceforever 04-20-2008 10:21 AM

Poor Denis :(
I'm really pulling for him to make it in. He's not my favorite Derby horse, but I like him...my preference is no fillies to enter this year....please!
Not optomistic about that at all, however.

Kasept 04-20-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mbahadur
Steve: Any word form David Carroll about who would ride Denis of Cork should he get in the Derby field ? Albarado and Leparoux are already committed to other mounts.

Well, Calvin Borel will be on board for the work tomorrow... ;)

NTamm1215 04-20-2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Well, Calvin Borel will be on board for the work tomorrow... ;)

Darn, I was hoping for Brian Hernandez, Jr. or Orlando Mojica. :D

NT

IrishofNDMan 04-20-2008 10:35 AM

I don't think this question has been answered, will the owners for sure send Denis of Cork if he can get in? I would have no problem using him at 30-1, would seem like a similiar Bluegrass Cat choice.

Kasept 04-20-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
I don't think this question has been answered, will the owners for sure send Denis of Cork if he can get in? I would have no problem using him at 30-1, would seem like a similiar Bluegrass Cat choice.

You don't think the question has been answered? Am I writing in Sanscrit?

IrishofNDMan 04-20-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
You don't think the question has been answered? Am I writing in Sanscrit?

that's why I'm confused.


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