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oracle80 10-17-2006 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution
He is really big. I don't know how dumb he is, but he is huge. He makes Showing Up look really tiny.
Those kind are usually a real challenge to keep sound(point Given, Rock Hard Ten, etc). I hope Tagg can keep him sound as he looks like a real good horse.

Seattleallstar 10-17-2006 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
You are 25 years old, you have no excuses!!!!

i never got any breaks in life

oracle80 10-17-2006 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
i never got any breaks in life
Yeah, right. You avoided work from ages 16-25 by sponging off relatives.
You still live at home and only pay small bills, and thats only in the last few months.
You are completely healthy and always have been other than the situation caused by your own overindulgence.
You had your college tuition paid for entirely by your folks.
I'm tired of beating you up in private, nothing I say to you seems to sink in. Maybe hearing it from others will get through to you.
I know folks who have had very few breaks in life, and folks who have to had to persevere despite hardships and tragedy. You don't fall into either category. Grow up, and act like a man.

SentToStud 10-17-2006 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
i never got any breaks in life
When you get a chance, take this break from your every day routine which is causing you problems.

Go spend a morning in the waiting room at a Pediatric Cancer Treatment Center.

Let us know what you think.

repent 10-17-2006 02:04 PM
lol
this is great.

its like the speech I give my kid brother on a weekly basis.

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Seattleallstar 10-17-2006 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by repent
lol
this is great.

its like the speech I give my kid brother on a weekly basis.

Repent

shut up..lol

repent 10-17-2006 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SentToStud
When you get a chance, take this break from your every day routine which is causing you problems.

Go spend a morning in the waiting room at a Pediatric Cancer Treatment Center.

Let us know what you think.
i saw an episode of House about a kid with cancer.
House brought up a great point.
they cant all be brave and good people.
some of the cancer kids have to be whiney little brats.
If I am going to take a morning off of work, Id rather spend my morning at the track.


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repent 10-17-2006 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
shut up..lol
haha

grow up, be a man.
i think I remember Roy saying that Aaron in Primal Fear.

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Linny 10-17-2006 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Linny horses aren't machines and they sometimes take a few starts to learn their lessons.
What Nobiz did would only be considered neagtive by me if he does that again and again like Corinthian wound up doing.
Many a very good horse does what Nobiz did in his early races while learning his or her lessons.
He got next to no schooling in his debut as he shot to thelead after 3 duelers committed suicide on the front end. He cantered down the lane and didn't learn any lessons.
Now that they know he may be prone to waiting or lugging in, they will most likely change bits or maybe put cheater blinkers on him if he does it again.
In addition to that, a good trainer like Tagg now knows what to work on in the mornings with him and will probably make sure he works in behind a set of horses or alongside another one in company.
It was only his 2nd start, and its just too early to declare him a mental patient.
I ride horses and have trained babies, I know they take alot of time. I certainly don't think NoBiz is a mental patient, just a bit short on the seasoning needed to win the BCJ. You are right about his debut, it was (in a way) too good for his own good. I'm sure Tagg will school him well and work on lead changes too. IMO, he was fatiguing from his early efforts to get into the race and struggled with the lead change. Tagg has said that he's a big and goofy colt.
I like him alot and if I had to select a Ky Derby contender from the babies I've seen, he'd be "one of the ones." I just question whether he'll be ready to turn the tables on Scat Daddy and beat horses like Great Hunter and Circular Quay in 3 weeks.

oracle80 10-17-2006 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Linny
I ride horses and have trained babies, I know they take alot of time. I certainly don't think NoBiz is a mental patient, just a bit short on the seasoning needed to win the BCJ. You are right about his debut, it was (in a way) too good for his own good. I'm sure Tagg will school him well and work on lead changes too. IMO, he was fatiguing from his early efforts to get into the race and struggled with the lead change. Tagg has said that he's a big and goofy colt.
I like him alot and if I had to select a Ky Derby contender from the babies I've seen, he'd be "one of the ones." I just question whether he'll be ready to turn the tables on Scat Daddy and beat horses like Great Hunter and Circular Quay in 3 weeks.
Oh I agree with you there!!!
If he were mine he'd be training for the Remsen Stakes on Thanksgiving weekend at Aqueduct.
Rushing him back on three weeks rest and shipping to Ky doesn't seem like the prudent move. Tagg is a really rational and good horseman, I think when it all boils down he will pass the BC. I think thats too much too soon.
The Remsen is a mile and an eigth grade two and 6 weeks rest between the Champagne and Remsen. Lots of time for him to recover off his last race, and learn to switch leads better and mature.
I hope thats what he does.

SentToStud 10-17-2006 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by repent
i saw an episode of House about a kid with cancer.
House brought up a great point.
they cant all be brave and good people.
some of the cancer kids have to be whiney little brats.
If I am going to take a morning off of work, Id rather spend my morning at the track.


Repent
I agree they're not all good and brave and they're whiney. They're also scared and so is this guy Seattle Jerry.

The difference is these kids are scared they're going to die before they reach age 10. Seattle Jerry is scared he is going to die before he inherits his parents wealth.

I suppose Seattle Jerry can learn some things from watching episodic television. But it ain't quite the same as having your gaze met by a smiling, bald eight year old in a wheelchair.

repent 10-17-2006 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SentToStud
I agree they're not all good and brave and they're whiney. They're also scared and so is this guy Seattle Jerry.

The difference is these kids are scared they're going to die before they reach age 10. Seattle Jerry is scared he is going to die before he inherits his parents wealth.

I suppose Seattle Jerry can learn some things from watching episodic television. But it ain't quite the same as having your gaze met by a smiling, bald eight year old in a wheelchair.

lol,
you guys are too hard on seattle.

hes not icing down the steps hoping for his parents to meet an unfortunate end.

from what I can tell, he has a job and is somewhat self sufficient.
personally, i could not live with my parents(how are you supposed to bring a girl home or run on your treadmill at 3AM?)

but I suppose it would be nice to not pay rent or mortgage.


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SentToStud 10-17-2006 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by repent
lol,
you guys are too hard on seattle.

hes not icing down the steps hoping for his parents to meet an unfortunate end.

from what I can tell, he has a job and is somewhat self sufficient.
personally, i could not live with my parents(how are you supposed to bring a girl home or run on your treadmill at 3AM?)

but I suppose it would be nice to not pay rent or mortgage.


Repent
lol.
Well, at least he should put down the case of Twinkies and step away from the refrigerator.

oracle80 10-17-2006 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by repent
lol,
you guys are too hard on seattle.

hes not icing down the steps hoping for his parents to meet an unfortunate end.

from what I can tell, he has a job and is somewhat self sufficient.
personally, i could not live with my parents(how are you supposed to bring a girl home or run on your treadmill at 3AM?)

but I suppose it would be nice to not pay rent or mortgage.


Repent
Repent,
Now how in the world can you expect the guy to drop a grand on a 3-5 shot each weekend and pay rentor a mortgage? I mean good Lord man, you have to have your priorities straight!!!!

Seattleallstar 10-17-2006 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SentToStud
I agree they're not all good and brave and they're whiney. They're also scared and so is this guy Seattle Jerry.

The difference is these kids are scared they're going to die before they reach age 10. Seattle Jerry is scared he is going to die before he inherits his parents wealth.

I suppose Seattle Jerry can learn some things from watching episodic television. But it ain't quite the same as having your gaze met by a smiling, bald eight year old in a wheelchair.

no wealth, I think theres a big misconception about me out there. I was only joking by the way, I have no reason to complain about anything or to blame anyone about how things are.

2MinsToPost 10-17-2006 02:24 PM
I will share with Jerry later tonight a detailed look at my life not so long ago via pm. I'll talk in detail about living in my car, blowing checks at the track, etc etc.. Maybe it will help.

Seattleallstar 10-17-2006 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by repent
lol,
you guys are too hard on seattle.

hes not icing down the steps hoping for his parents to meet an unfortunate end.

from what I can tell, he has a job and is somewhat self sufficient.
personally, i could not live with my parents(how are you supposed to bring a girl home or run on your treadmill at 3AM?)

but I suppose it would be nice to not pay rent or mortgage.


Repent

yes im doing fine, I have a great job finally with Microsoft in their Bellevue campus. Much better working for the city

Seattleallstar 10-17-2006 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by repent
lol,
you guys are too hard on seattle.

hes not icing down the steps hoping for his parents to meet an unfortunate end.

from what I can tell, he has a job and is somewhat self sufficient.
personally, i could not live with my parents(how are you supposed to bring a girl home or run on your treadmill at 3AM?)

but I suppose it would be nice to not pay rent or mortgage.


Repent

yes im doing fine, I have a great job finally with Microsoft in their Bellevue campus. Much better than working for the city

oracle80 10-17-2006 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
no wealth, I think theres a big misconception about me out there. I was only joking by the way, I have no reason to complain about anything or to blame anyone about how things are.
Can you imagine the wealth they would have if they had taken the money they've given you in the last ten years for pizzas and exacta boxes and invested it real estate instead?

repent 10-17-2006 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SentToStud
lol.
Well, at least he should put down the case of Twinkies and step away from the refrigerator.

lol,
well I really dont know or care about the physique of Seattle.
im 5"10 and 140 lbs.
some may think Im too thin.
but I can run all day and Im cool with my body.
thats all that matters.
Coach Bob Knight has put on weight over the years and I respect him more as a person than just about anyone on this planet.

unless its a chic that Im going to do, i dont care how heavy a person is.


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oracle80 10-17-2006 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by repent
lol,
well I really dont know or care about the physique of Seattle.
im 5"10 and 140 lbs.
some may think Im too thin.
but I can run all day and Im cool with my body.
thats all that matters.
Coach Bob Knight has put on weight over the years and I respect him more as a person than just about anyone on this planet.

unless its a chic that Im going to do, i dont care how heavy a person is.


Repent
Pent, at the college I went to we had a motto, big girls need lovin too.

repent 10-17-2006 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Can you imagine the wealth they would have if they had taken the money they've given you in the last ten years for pizzas and exacta boxes and invested it real estate instead?

lol,
I said almost the exact same thing to my mother the other day about all the money she paid on child shrinks for me when I was a kid.
I promise you guys,
I was in the damn psychiatrist's office every week of my life from the ages of 8-15(when they finally gave up).

she should have invested or at least put the money into a future youbet account for me.lol


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repent 10-17-2006 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Pent, at the college I went to we had a motto, big girls need lovin too.

lol,
thats funny.

its just a thing with me.
cant be with someone heavier than me.
seems unnatural or something.
im weird though.


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Cajungator26 10-17-2006 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Pent, at the college I went to we had a motto, big girls need lovin too.
*Raises hand*

How bout bootylicious women? LMFAO! :D

repent 10-17-2006 02:34 PM
lol,
talk to you guys later.
take it easy on Seattle.
one of the nicest guys you will run across online.


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Sightseek 10-17-2006 02:38 PM
One of the racing publications has written that No Biz will pass on the Juvie and go to the Remsen.

oracle80 10-17-2006 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by repent
lol,
thats funny.

its just a thing with me.
cant be with someone heavier than me.
seems unnatural or something.
im weird though.


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Guy in my fraternity, "Brother Raj" was in the US on a college visa. he didn't wanna go home. So he kept adding majors and minors in order to keep going to school.
Funniest guy you ever met in your life, Indian dude who drank hard and boasted of having been with more "tons" of women than anyone in the frat. I asked him one night how big the biggest one was, and he responded with a big grin in that accent " 300 easily". LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! He probably weighed 130 soaking wet.

oracle80 10-17-2006 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
One of the racing publications has written that No Biz will pass on the Juvie and go to the Remsen.
Very sharp minds tend to think alike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SentToStud 10-17-2006 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Guy in my fraternity, "Brother Raj" was in the US on a college visa. he didn't wanna go home. So he kept adding majors and minors in order to keep going to school.
Funniest guy you ever met in your life, Indian dude who drank hard and boasted of having been with more "tons" of women than anyone in the frat. I asked him one night how big the biggest one was, and he responded with a big grin in that accent " 300 easily". LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! He probably weighed 130 soaking wet.
Brave Raj was probably named after him.

oracle80 10-17-2006 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Brave Raj was probably named after him.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He certainly was!!! He was the kinda guy where you always knew where he would be every night near closing time. He was always near the pool table in the back whispering sweet nothings into the ear of the biggest girl in the place. You'd yell over to him, and he'd just turn and grin from ear to ear. I always wondered how he ended up and where he is. My best guess is that he married one of the fat ladys at the circus and runs the beer concession.

Seattleallstar 10-17-2006 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by repent
lol,
well I really dont know or care about the physique of Seattle.
im 5"10 and 140 lbs.
some may think Im too thin.
but I can run all day and Im cool with my body.
thats all that matters.
Coach Bob Knight has put on weight over the years and I respect him more as a person than just about anyone on this planet.

unless its a chic that Im going to do, i dont care how heavy a person is.


Repent

im 6ft2, 260 right now. Lost a bunch of weight prolly have gained 15-20 of it back the past month or so.

What im worried about now is all the stock i sold and squandered on gambling, and the taxes im gonna have to pay

oracle80 10-17-2006 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
im 6ft2, 260 right now. Lost a bunch of weight prolly have gained 15-20 of it back the past month or so.

What im worried about now is all the stock i sold and squandered on gambling, and the taxes im gonna have to pay
You might wanna mention that the tax consequences were completely missed as a problem by you until I mentioned it to you.
I should have let you walk around blissfully ignorant.

Cunningham Racing 10-17-2006 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
One of the racing publications has written that No Biz will pass on the Juvie and go to the Remsen.
Thats sucks...I really wanted him to come to Louisville and get some more of SCAT DADDY!!! --But, I think we all knew he wouldn't ship and come back on three weeks in that barn, which is the most conservative in the game....

I was SHOCKED he brought Showing Up to the Derby on just three weeks rest and the minor ailment the horse had after the Lexington Stakes....shocked....but really when it comes down to it, Tagg is as conservative as they come...

Cajungator26 10-17-2006 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
im 6ft2, 260 right now. Lost a bunch of weight prolly have gained 15-20 of it back the past month or so.

What im worried about now is all the stock i sold and squandered on gambling, and the taxes im gonna have to pay
Um, yeah...

260, Jerry? My ex is 6'5" and 235 lbs. I thought he was robust! :eek:

Cajungator26 10-17-2006 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Thats sucks...I really wanted him to come to Louisville and get some more of SCAT DADDY!!! --But, I think we all knew he wouldn't ship and come back on three weeks in that barn, which is the most conservative in the game....

I was SHOCKED he brought Showing Up to the Derby on just three weeks rest and the minor ailment the horse had after the Lexington Stakes....shocked....but really when it comes down to it, Tagg is as conservative as they come...
I was shocked as well. I think that out of every horse that ran in the derby (with the exception of Barbaro ;) ), I was most impressed with Showing Up. He was in the front pack the whole way, and still managed to fight gamely for 6th. He's one hell of a horse. A lot better than I originally thought.

oracle80 10-17-2006 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Thats sucks...I really wanted him to come to Louisville and get some more of SCAT DADDY!!! --But, I think we all knew he wouldn't ship and come back on three weeks in that barn, which is the most conservative in the game....

I was SHOCKED he brought Showing Up to the Derby on just three weeks rest and the minor ailment the horse had after the Lexington Stakes....shocked....but really when it comes down to it, Tagg is as conservative as they come...
Joel three weeks back is very tough on a two year old, especially one who has to ship to do it. I couldn't blame anyone for not doing that. I think its the prudent move.

Seattleallstar 10-17-2006 03:38 PM
my pics aer on myspace if u wanna know

Cajungator26 10-17-2006 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
my pics aer on myspace if u wanna know
If I wanna know about what?

kentuckyrosesinmay 10-17-2006 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
One of the racing publications has written that No Biz will pass on the Juvie and go to the Remsen.
Guys, this tells you that Tagg believes that this horse is definitely derby material. He's saving him for next year, and as of right now, this is my derby horse. Well, actually, I made a bold prediction and said this was my derby horse just after he broke his maiden. It'll probably change like a million times between now and next May though.

Good move Tagg. FC skipped the Juvy also because Tagg felt that FC was Derby material. It paid off.

philcski 10-17-2006 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Guys, this tells you that Tagg believes that this horse is definitely derby material. He's saving him for next year, and as of right now, this is my derby horse. Well, actually, I made a bold prediction and said this was my derby horse just after he broke his maiden. It'll probably change like a million times between now and next May though.

Good move Tagg. FC skipped the Juvy also because Tagg felt that FC was Derby material. It paid off.
Well... he sorta skipped the BCJ... went on NYB Showcase day, the Sleepy Hollow, instead (the week before) and obviously a weaker group that he was a layup against.
Good move? Definitely.


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