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Sightseek 01-30-2012 08:58 PM

Thanks Paul.

GPK 01-30-2012 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 835272)
No argument, Paul, but she implied nobody was doing anything. I'm not big on blowing our own horn, but I take a little offense to being ignored in this particular situation.

I think with a touch more effort, you, Jason and Eric may just overtake Margo as the most watched public handicappers.

blackthroatedwind 01-31-2012 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 835318)
I think with a touch more effort, you, Jason and Eric may just overtake Margo as the most watched public handicappers.

I like Margo.

Calzone Lord 01-31-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 835270)
You need a sidekick, although I don't think RHT1985 fits the bill. Having another handicapper on your broadcasts will make them seem to go faster for the viewer and gives you someone to bounce ideas off of.

Not much to choose from in Erie. I could get Pops to do weekly profanity laced jockey rants but his energy would be better spent battling cancer.

Ogygian, a poster here from my gym, could come on and talk about how another horse will never run a 120 Beyer again and how Easy Goer needs a big race named after him.

Indian Charlie 01-31-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 835337)
Not much to choose from in Erie. I could get Pops to do weekly profanity laced jockey rants but his energy would be better spent battling cancer.

Ogygian, a poster here from my gym, could come on and talk about how another horse will never run a 120 Beyer again and how Easy Goer needs a big race named after him.

No reason that person would need to be local.

There are methods to combine video clips into one.

GPK 01-31-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 835323)
I like Margo.

I don't find her intolerable by any means, but I do think her handicapping leaves a little something to be desired. In my opinion, she has zero creativity at all. It feels like she rarely deviates from the ML favorites.

DaTruth 02-01-2012 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 835362)
No reason that person would need to be local.

There are methods to combine video clips into one.

He could rotate guests as co-hosts.

Indian Charlie 02-01-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 835530)
He could rotate guests as co-hosts.

All very attractive females, with not much clothing on, preferably.

pweizer 02-03-2012 01:33 PM

It should be noted that the first hrose to race that was mentioned in this video came back to win today at the Fairgrounds.

Good work Doug!

Paul

lemoncrush 02-03-2012 03:27 PM

I certainly don't want to be a hater, but speaking of handicapping shows, what is the point of this one?

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...dicapping-show

Nothing against these guys, but if you're going to have a show, could you at least put more than 2 minutes of preparation into it and offer up some kind of insight that isn't painfully obvious if you glanced at the PPs yourself for 30 seconds?

blackthroatedwind 02-03-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 836239)
I certainly don't want to be a hater, but speaking of handicapping shows, what is the point of this one?

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...dicapping-show

Nothing against these guys, but if you're going to have a show, could you at least put more than 2 minutes of preparation into it and offer up some kind of insight that isn't painfully obvious if you glanced at the PPs yourself for 30 seconds?

Having the coffee cup on the table really adds to the production values.

Calzone Lord 02-08-2012 02:48 PM

The new software is a lot easier.

I did another piece on Tuesday. Same old way.

The focus of this is on stretch running horses who were moved early into hot paces. I went with Secretariat, Spectacular Bid, Invasor, and Point Given as examples. Very basic stuff.

Might as well as use examples of very famous top horses old and new...even though this type of trip is a little more detrimental to the chances of cheaper class off-the-pace horses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV-e9...bv4Q-Aq3q1QM2D

Youtube is slow for uploading. It took more time to upload than to actually do the video ... and I even changed it to an inferior video quality so it would upload faster.

Indian Charlie 02-08-2012 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 837331)
The new software is a lot easier.

I did another piece on Tuesday. Same old way.

The focus of this is on stretch running horses who were moved early into hot paces. I went with Secretariat, Spectacular Bid, Invasor, and Point Given as examples. Very basic stuff.

Might as well as use examples of very famous top horses old and new...even though this type of trip is a little more detrimental to the chances of cheaper class off-the-pace horses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV-e9...bv4Q-Aq3q1QM2D

Youtube is slow for uploading. It took more time to upload than to actually do the video ... and I even changed it to an inferior video quality so it would upload faster.

OMG. You are so hot!

Calzone Lord 02-08-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 837336)
OMG. You are so hot!

There is no greater eye-candy than text like that.

Such good text and great racing... only to be spoiled by my Ben Stein like voice.

my miss storm cat 02-08-2012 04:12 PM

I watched the whole thing and liked it a lot. Great job! :)

Can I make one little suggestion (and no not the same one although I still think we should see you)?

my miss storm cat 02-08-2012 04:30 PM

Times up! :D

I'd imagine I can say this without worry about huwting your widdwe feewings...

I liked it a LOT. I like you voice, your expressiveness (is that a word?), that you don't sound like you're talking down to anyone, the information, the clips you used, everything BUT BUT BUT BUT you need to try to stop saying ummm and uh so much.

Watch one minute, any minute, and count how many times you do this. (I haven't and won't. I'm not judging you here. I'm only trying to help) and I think you'll see what I'm saying. :)

That aside, Mr. Eye Candy, it's really really good.

Calzone Lord 02-09-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 837393)
you need to try to stop saying ummm and uh so much.

Watch one minute, any minute, and count how many times you do this. (I haven't and won't. I'm not judging you here. I'm only trying to help) and I think you'll see what I'm saying.

Talking at a laptop is very akward.

The ummm and uh stops when you have bullet point notes for transition. I took Oral Communication in high school.

Indian Charlie 02-09-2012 12:36 PM

I won't even touch that one.

my miss storm cat 02-09-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 837500)
I took Oral Communication in high school.

:D

Yes well oral skills are very important. I applaud you, Sir.

pweizer 02-18-2012 04:43 PM

Another horse from Doug's first podcast came back to win today at Turfway at 30-1. I only wish I had enough sense to play him.

Credit where credit is due. Great job Doug!

Paul

northeastbound123 02-18-2012 05:09 PM

Great job 2/3 so far hope you cleaned house

Calzone Lord 02-18-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 839551)
Another horse from Doug's first podcast came back to win today at Turfway at 30-1. I only wish I had enough sense to play him.

Credit where credit is due. Great job Doug!

Paul

I appreciate that Paul!! It would have looked a lot worse if I posted about it.

He won wire-to-wire by more than 8 lengths at 30/1 odds...on the stretch out to a mile just like he figured.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...20120218&RN=10


Hopefully a few people got something out of the videos I did.

Platonium's last race is talked about at the 13:15 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDLzo...eature=related

cmorioles 02-18-2012 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 839587)
I appreciate that Paul!! It would have looked a lot worse if I posted about it.

He won wire-to-wire by more than 8 lengths at 30/1 odds...on the stretch out to a mile just like he figured.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...20120218&RN=10


Hopefully a few people got something out of the videos I did.

Platonium's last race is talked about at the 13:15 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDLzo...eature=related

Very cool. That horse had insane pace figures on my numbers, stood out as big time lone speed today.

pweizer 02-18-2012 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 839587)
I appreciate that Paul!! It would have looked a lot worse if I posted about it.

He won wire-to-wire by more than 8 lengths at 30/1 odds...on the stretch out to a mile just like he figured.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...20120218&RN=10


Hopefully a few people got something out of the videos I did.

Platonium's last race is talked about at the 13:15 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDLzo...eature=related

It was a great job. I hope there will be more videos to follow.

Paul

Dahoss 02-18-2012 07:53 PM

Excellent call DrugS.

Kasept 02-19-2012 07:31 AM

How about it? Nicely done Dougie!

Calzone Lord 02-19-2012 09:22 AM

Thanks guys.

I knew I was going to have a great day yesterday when it started off with this...




A super hottie works there but I sadly found out that she's like my 2nd or 3rd cousin a few years back...not that it would have stopped me or anything given the chance.

Coach Pants 02-19-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 839670)
Thanks guys.

I knew I was going to have a great day yesterday when it started off with this...




A super hottie works there but I sadly found out that she's like my 2nd or 3rd cousin a few years back...not that it would have stopped me or anything given the chance.

pics?

Calzone Lord 02-19-2012 11:00 AM

No luck finding a pic. She has some trashy piercing and tattoos.

Coach Pants 02-19-2012 11:25 AM

Sounds like a California Medley. :{>:

Danzig 02-19-2012 12:29 PM

how's their french onion soup?

Calzone Lord 02-20-2012 12:13 AM

I made my girlfriend a cake for her birthday, Bogs. I thought you'd appreciate this with your love movie posters.




I broke two eggs on her kitchen floor by accident and got icing all over...but the end result was good.




I fouled up the 'Happy' by not leaving enough room for the 'Y'...it's hard to write on a cake with damn icing.




She probably most enjoyed how I cut the cake. That is just how you cut a cake in Doug World.

Sightseek 02-20-2012 06:22 AM

Is that strawberry with rainbow chip frosting??

My favorite!

Alabama Stakes 02-20-2012 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 837379)
There is no greater eye-candy than text like that.

Such good text and great racing... only to be spoiled by my Ben Stein like voice.



kind of cool actually....hearing a voice without that Albany accent. Ya know, the one that sounds kind of like an angry guy from Wis-CON-sin. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the derby preps...

joeydb 02-22-2012 07:49 AM

Great job Doug. I'd definitely watch and "youtube subscribe" to your channel.

I did have a couple of questions:

1) Do you find the presence of a speed duel to be reliably predictable before the race?

2) When you say efficiency in your analysis, do you mean from a Brohamer percent energy usage point of view, saving ground in the run, both, or neither?

I think your analysis has some real value and I'm just trying to see how I would use it in my own approach to the race, before it is run of course.

Again, awesome idea and great format. I love how you showed all the data you were referring to and formatted it for easy viewing, along with the run itself since I am not much of a trip handicapper on my own.

Joe

RockHardTen1985 02-22-2012 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 840332)
Great job Doug. I'd definitely watch and "youtube subscribe" to your channel.

I did have a couple of questions:

1) Do you find the presence of a speed duel to be reliably predictable before the race?

2) When you say efficiency in your analysis, do you mean from a Brohamer percent energy usage point of view, saving ground in the run, both, or neither?

I think your analysis has some real value and I'm just trying to see how I would use it in my own approach to the race, before it is run of course.

Again, awesome idea and great format. I love how you showed all the data you were referring to and formatted it for easy viewing, along with the run itself since I am not much of a trip handicapper on my own.

Joe


Doug will have a much better answer for you... But do you follow Aqueduct? I have been betting Aqueduct almost daily and its getting really frustrating. On paper you have anywhere from 3-5 speeds, and 1 horse gets a soft lead. Its been going on all winter. So for question #1 I would say its almost impossible to predict it. What looks like a collapse on paper, a lot of times turns into a 1 speed number around the track.

joeydb 02-22-2012 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 840336)
Doug will have a much better answer for you... But do you follow Aqueduct? I have been betting Aqueduct almost daily and its getting really frustrating. On paper you have anywhere from 3-5 speeds, and 1 horse gets a soft lead. Its been going on all winter. So for question #1 I would say its almost impossible to predict it. What looks like a collapse on paper, a lot of times turns into a 1 speed number around the track.

No, I am a casual player - I am sporadic in my attendance and play, but I do keep as many records as I can. I tend to use numerical tools more than anything else, hoping I can "tune" them for better accuracy but at least they will be consistent.

I was wondering if it even possible to have a loose predictor of the speed duel - nothing is perfect of course.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-22-2012 08:06 AM

thread jack..

RockHardTen1985 02-22-2012 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 840338)
No, I am a casual player - I am sporadic in my attendance and play, but I do keep as many records as I can. I tend to use numerical tools more than anything else, hoping I can "tune" them for better accuracy but at least they will be consistent.

I was wondering if it even possible to have a loose predictor of the speed duel - nothing is perfect of course.

On paper, its very easy to predict. But then when the gate opens, it does not always turn out that way. Thats what makes this game so challenging.


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