yeah, even with being given a free fourth timeout, the seahawks couldn't get it done. was hoping the cards would hold on.

The timeout was irrelevant.

yep, luckily it turned out to be so.

Cards are competitive at home while the Seahawks kinda suck on the road. All there in the PP's:D

One game and Wilson is a rookie. Obviously he has more potential in the coaches eyes than Flynn (who they paid too much to be a backup). Only one week. I think Flynn will be holding the clip board come week 2 again....

...he will, and I think they will be 0 fer September. The only thing Carroll has done since being in Seattle and escaping deserved persecution at USC, is beat a beat up Saints team in the playoffs.

Besides some happy feet, I thought Wilson did a good job. Zona's defense is actually pretty good excluding the stupid mistakes. Zona's offense just stinks.

Wilson was 5-10 for 35 yds on 3rd down (this includes 2 penalties. 1 complete, 1 incomplete both led to 1st down) including a 10yd TD pass to a receiver who actually catches the ball on 3rd and 9. He also ran 5 times on 3rd down for 13yds. Both passing and rushing, he led the team to 7 1st downs on 3rd down. If it wasn't for Baldwin and Edwards (Mr drops), Seattle wins the game.

:D

Seattle is a completely different team at home then on the road or maybe Dallas is or a combination of both.

I know, I know, they won. Probably because I was cheering them on, I hate the Cowgirls.:D:zz:

Don't get me wrong. I like Matt Flynn, but those receivers in Seattle are terrible. Wilson gives them something Flynn can't thus the reason why I think he is starting. Watching Wisconsin this year proves how good Wilson was since they are horrible without him. They get the Pack this week so I will be cheering for Wilson to get crushed by the packer D in a Jay Cutler like fashion.....

me too!!!

loved seeing seattle beating them, especially after all the talk after wk 1.



not a fan of jay, and laughed when i saw him yelling at his lineman, who also was laughing at him!!!

Cutler has the potential to be great. The problem with him is he has some serious personality disorders. And yes I believe he has many of them.

What they need is a few linemen that have the intelligence to realize their quarterback is special in a Rain Man type of way.

It really just has to be one strong personality on the line to condition the others. Make them accept that their quarterback is an as.shole...but an as.shole with a rocket for an arm.

Part of their job is protecting the guy. Yes liking him is important...but giving him another chance could pay dividends, and when you win you can have the antichrist as a teammate and love him like a brother.

Also you need a coach that can handle a special needs person like Cutler. Lovie isn't on the level.

Their O-Line is so shitty though that they can't have the stones to stand up to, let alone protect Cutler. You're right though..the dude is missing something. He's too "old" to change..what you see is what he is

agreed.


what's everyone's take on coughlin chewing out schiano? i thought it was silly. you play to win the game, right? play to the end, to the whistle.

Obviously I'm biased. Didn't even know something happened until I got home (ran out after the Boley interception) but I thought it was bush league and very amateur. It's not like they were pinned inside the one. Tampa had no timeouts left, the game was over. I hope someone gives Freeman a needless shot in the upcoming weeks for no reason, because thats all it was to Manning and the Giants O-line. But honestly I'm not suprised. I have always thought that Schiano was a douche during his Rutgers days. This is just another reason for me to root against him and hope he falls flat on his face

Definitely bush league. The alarming thing I see going on game in/game out so far with the replacement refs, coaches and players alike are pushing things into the gray areas as far as late hits, holds, illegal contact, and extra-curricular skirmishes. I would go so far as to say some of the games look like they were about to get away from the control of the refs.

....like this game is about to get out of control.

Not over in a 1 score game until the gun sounds. Two words. Joe Pisarcik.

Does not mean it is not bush league. It won't happen again because the other teams will be ready for it now that they know it will happen. They will probably have someone ready to spear a prone lineman from the Bucs. This is all good for football especially with these current @ss clown refs they are using.:rolleyes:

exactly. it would have been bush league if the giants had been winning by 10 or more points.

Game does not end until there is no time left on the clock.

I personally dont mind that the cornerbacks are getting to play old school football because the replacement refs suck so bad.

I prefer old school football.

Of course it was bush league.

I get it, he's trying to change the mentality in Tampa. But with plays like that? As you alluded to, now his QB is going to get his....and you he eventually will, the Giants aren't going to forget it.

The Bucs actually had a time out left, so why didn't Schiano call it if he's so gung ho on playing it to the end? There was still 3 seconds on the clock when Eli went to the ground.

Cat's out of the bag now, because everyone else in the NFL will be ready for this. In the long run all he did was jeopardize his own guys.

you should never leave a time out in the bag unless you are winning and want the clock to run out.

Miracle in the Meadowlands part I

you never know what can happen, quitting is stupid.

much more interesting coaching decision from this weekend.


Ravens are up 20-17 with about 5:30 left to play and are driving. In field goal range.

3rd and long comes up... Ravens throw a short pass and are stopped a few yards short of the first down... around the 20 yard line. So it would be 4th and 2 or 3, around a 37 yard FG try.

Turns out Ravens were called for holding on 3rd down, taking the ball 10 yards back (still in FG range, btw... still would have been a 47 yard FG and the kicker had already made 2 over 50 yards in the game).

Andy Reid accepted the penality. I was furious, why give the other team a chance to get a first down, run more time down, and possible score a TD to make it a two score game???? especially when you already have them held to no more than a FG, on 4th down.... and the penalty did NOT take them out of FG range. I said right there.. if the Ravens get a first down and end up scoring a TD, Reid needs to be fired on the spot.

So what happens on 3rd and 17 or so? We get called for a roughing the passer penalty, and First Down Ravens, at the 20.

Two plays later... Flacco throws a TD pass that was controversally called Offensive PI.. thankfully.. most refs dont make that call. Eagles... specifically Reid, got very lucky and were bailed out by the refs.

Things worked out, but Flacco should have NEVER been given that opportunity by Reid to throw that TD pass.

I could buy it if the were backed up inside the 5.
But there is nothing that you can say to make me think it was nothing more than a bush league cheap shot maneuver. The fact that he didn't call his other TO, re-enforces that to me.

Joe Pisarcik is the one exception to the rule (and besides they were running a play and not kneeling on the ball) That's probably the only time in NFL history something like that has and will happen. Plus they didn't line up in the formation below.

Actually the play before the fumble was a kneel down. Since the Giants saw the bull-rushing on the kneel down, and called for a play.

I'm all for competition until the final whistle. Plus.. extra shots on the Giants just makes me happy.

If the other team has more than an 8 point lead, it is definately a cheap shot then.

Just because you dont think lightening will strike twice, doesnt mean you shouldnt try and make it happen.

You know what makes me happy? Thinking how Bigs screwed you when you parred the two hardest holes in Tampa.................

yeah that was fucl<ed up!!!

Double Bogeys should never cut skins.

Whatev.. dont be jealous that the Eagles are winning the NFC east this year. I am jealous, on the other hand, of all your rings.

(1) :D

(2) :baby:

(3) :rolleyes:

(4) :cool:

^^^Not germane to the NFL discussion.

Really Bigs? :rolleyes:


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:zz:

here I thought bigs was reffering to my German heritage lol