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SCUDSBROTHER 10-20-2009 10:58 AM

What? The Grade-1-Challenged Thoroughbred Trainer isn't piling on? Needs a little more time, I guess. Maybe he's leading a seminar on "How you too can be a White Conservative in America." Aren't the Angel games packed enough (early on) to satisfy you people? A-1 Sauce, if Philly is so great, then why do you have to go escape to Florida? Isn't their enough choice Dyke in the lesser Philly area for you? I'd like to know why you care what this T.J. Simers guy has to write. He's not well-liked here (at all.) I could never see why people had such a wicked hard-on for Jim Murray, but he was sure better than this a-s-s. This has nothing to do with Philly. This guy was gunna choke against anyone in a big spot like this. Jimmy Rollins got the cookie, but anybody could of gotten it. The biggest knock (no, it's not that the stands aren't loaded up with enough fat white trash at a certain time of the proceedings at hand) on this organization is their do-nothing approach to treating the cancer called choking. If that's your plan (ignore it,) then it's gunna nail ya again, and it did. It's their fault for not trading him. I told them to get rid of this fkn woman. This Asian lady (our assistant G.M.) is interviewing for head G.M. jobs. That's my 1st question to her. What part (if any) did you have in bringing this choking woman reliever back this year to again blow the pivotal 4th game of the NLCS? I think the worst thing about the Dodger Fans is that not enough of them demanded this woman be traded after last season. That should of been a much louder chorus. This was one of those very preventable abortions. If people would just look at the facts laid out in front of them, it all points to this gal being their biggest obstacle to ever being a Championship Club. You saw me btch about this woman, because it was (still is) a huge problem that wasn't being addressed. She's got plenty enough talent. Go back and look at the last pitch in the St. Louis series. That's what the Dodger Fans deserve from this woman. That was a 100 mph fastball with huge action (slicing a diagonal) through the strike zone. That's not what Jimmy Rollins was challenged with. He wasn't challenged (at all.) All of his elderly kin could of hit that sorry pitch.

Cannon Shell 10-20-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Oh Utley and Rollins handled it alright. Utley drove in run 3 last night and Rollins won the game with one of the greatest hits in Phillies history.

Its Hamels that didnt handle it. He threw up his hands and made that face. Instead of supporting his teammates (who have supported Hamels all career with big plays in the field and at bat) and brushing off the error and getting out of the inning only giving up 1 run, he whines and gives up a huge homer to Manny.

I'll cut him some slack tomorrow if he goes out and pitches great and doesnt throw any teammates under the bus.

Hamels may be an east coast version of Barry Zito

Cannon Shell 10-20-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
What? The Grade-1-Challenged Thoroughbred Trainer isn't piling on? Needs a little more time, I guess. Maybe he's leading a seminar on "How you too can be a White Conservative in America." Aren't the Angel games packed enough (early on) to satisfy you people? A-1 Sauce, if Philly is so great, then why do you have to go escape to Florida? Isn't their enough choice Dyke in the lesser Philly area for you? I'd like to know why you care what this T.J. Simers guy has to write. He's not well-liked here (at all.) I could never see why people had such a wicked hard-on for Jim Murray, but he was sure better than this a-s-s. This has nothing to do with Philly. This guy was gunna choke against anyone in a big spot like this. Jimmy Rollins got the cookie, but anybody could of gotten it. The biggest knock (no, it's not that the stands aren't loaded up with enough fat white trash at a certain time of the proceedings at hand) on this organization is their do nothing approach to treating the cancer called choking. If that's your plan (ignore it,) then it's gunna nail ya again, and it did. It's their fault for not trading him. I told them to get rid of this fkn woman. This Asian lady (our assistant G.M.) is interviewing for head G.M. jobs. That's my 1st question to her. What part (if any) did you have in bringing this choking woman reliever back this year to again blow the pivotal 4th game of the NLCS? I think the worst thing about the Dodger Fans is that not enough of them demanded this woman be traded after last season. That should of been a much louder chorus. This was one of those very preventable abortions. If people would just look at the facts laid out in front of them, it all points to this gal being their biggest obstacle to ever being a Championship Club. You saw me btch about this woman, because it was (still is) a huge problem that wasn't being addressed. She's got plenty enough talent. Go back and look at the last pitch in the St. Louis series. That's what the Dodger Fans deserve from that woman. That was a 100 mph fastball with huge action (slicing a diagonal) through the strike zone. That's not what Jimmy Rollins was challenged with. He wasn't challenged (at all.) All of his elderly kin could of hit that sorry pitch.

Once again, Phils in 5

Sorry Scuds. Billy Wagner will be available next season.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-20-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Once again, Phils in 5

Sorry Scuds. Billy Wagner will be available next season.

My lesser half vetoed me betting the Phils (at +105.) Fk relationships. Fk shared money. FK joint accounts. Maybe the Conservatives are right about that "Fk-Sharing" thing. To top it all off, now I have "Jerome Park" under my call name. Sounds like some Philly fan in Camden downing a bottle of Cisco.

Antitrust32 10-20-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
What? The Grade-1-Challenged Thoroughbred Trainer isn't piling on? Needs a little more time, I guess. Maybe he's leading a seminar on "How you too can be a White Conservative in America." Aren't the Angel games packed enough (early on) to satisfy you people? A-1 Sauce, if Philly is so great, then why do you have to go escape to Florida? Isn't their enough choice Dyke in the lesser Philly area for you? I'd like to know why you care what this T.J. Simers guy has to write. He's not well-liked here (at all.) I could never see why people had such a wicked hard-on for Jim Murray, but he was sure better than this a-s-s. This has nothing to do with Philly. This guy was gunna choke against anyone in a big spot like this. Jimmy Rollins got the cookie, but anybody could of gotten it. The biggest knock (no, it's not that the stands aren't loaded up with enough fat white trash at a certain time of the proceedings at hand) on this organization is their do-nothing approach to treating the cancer called choking. If that's your plan (ignore it,) then it's gunna nail ya again, and it did. It's their fault for not trading him. I told them to get rid of this fkn woman. This Asian lady (our assistant G.M.) is interviewing for head G.M. jobs. That's my 1st question to her. What part (if any) did you have in bringing this choking woman reliever back this year to again blow the pivotal 4th game of the NLCS? I think the worst thing about the Dodger Fans is that not enough of them demanded this woman be traded after last season. That should of been a much louder chorus. This was one of those very preventable abortions. If people would just look at the facts laid out in front of them, it all points to this gal being their biggest obstacle to ever being a Championship Club. You saw me btch about this woman, because it was (still is) a huge problem that wasn't being addressed. She's got plenty enough talent. Go back and look at the last pitch in the St. Louis series. That's what the Dodger Fans deserve from this woman. That was a 100 mph fastball with huge action (slicing a diagonal) through the strike zone. That's not what Jimmy Rollins was challenged with. He wasn't challenged (at all.) All of his elderly kin could of hit that sorry pitch.


Would you rather have Brad Lidge? I miss Philly.. the place I grew up (45 mins outside Philly) sucked and I dont miss that but I could live in Philly easy. I love FL weather and FL women but I hate Ocala and will be out of here soon enough. FL has the least passionate sports fans (except for Gator fans), so that is a big knock on FL and thats why it doesnt bother me when Bigs puts down Philly fans because I know how much Tampa fans really suck.

I'd feel bad for ya if you werent playing the Phils buddy. But you have to admit that "You took steriods" is a great and fitting for your idiot star batter. Maybe thats why you guys are struggling.. you have a sissy star batter who needs a needle in his butt to hit well, and we have a real MAN (Howard) who says "Just get me to the plate, boys."

Cannon, you must admit that your opinion of Howard last year was off.. but then again you were getting on him for being fat and saying how that wouldnt last, and he wins the WS and just goes into focus hyperdrive and loses 15 pounds and is in good shape. He's so freaking clutch though, its really amazing to watch.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-20-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Would you rather have Brad Lidge? I miss Philly.. the place I grew up (45 mins outside Philly) sucked and I dont miss that but I could live in Philly easy. I love FL weather and FL women but I hate Ocala and will be out of here soon enough. FL has the least passionate sports fans (except for Gator fans), so that is a big knock on FL and thats why it doesnt bother me when Bigs puts down Philly fans because I know how much Tampa fans really suck.

I'd feel bad for ya if you werent playing the Phils buddy. But you have to admit that "You took steriods" is a great and fitting for your idiot star batter. Maybe thats why you guys are struggling.. you have a sissy star batter who needs a needle in his butt to hit well, and we have a real MAN (Howard) who says "Just get me to the plate, boys."

Cannon, you must admit that your opinion of Howard last year was off.. but then again you were getting on him for being fat and saying how that wouldnt last, and he wins the WS and just goes into focus hyperdrive and loses 15 pounds and is in good shape. He's so freaking clutch though, its really amazing to watch.

Seriously, could any God make a nose that bad? At the end of the day, it's a blessing he can hit, because he looks almost as bad as a burn patient. If they don't have a plastic surgeon somewhere that can help that poor guy, then just let him eat. Do Philly fans ever really get used to looking at that mess?

Antitrust32 10-20-2009 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Seriously, could any God make a nose that bad? At the end of the day, it's a blessing he can hit, because he looks almost as bad as a burn patient. If they don't have a plastic surgeon somewhere that can help that poor guy, then just let him eat. Do Philly fans ever really get used to looking at that mess?


Its fine with me that he looks like the black version of Shrek. Just keep swingin for the fences! I've been very impressed with his defensive play lately too.. he's really worked hard to improve that part of his game. He could have taken his ring and have been satisfied.. but he put in the extra effort and its really paying off. I love their whole "team" mentality also. Charlie has done a great job checking attitudes at the door and making this team have tons of heart.

Cannon Shell 10-20-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
My lesser half vetoed me betting the Phils (at +105.) Fk relationships. Fk shared money. FK joint accounts. Maybe the Conservatives are right about that "Fk-Sharing" thing. To top it all off, now I have "Jerome Park" under my call name. Sounds like some Philly fan in Camden downing a bottle of Cisco.

Jerome Park is Chan Ho's brother from another mother.

Cannon Shell 10-20-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Would you rather have Brad Lidge? I miss Philly.. the place I grew up (45 mins outside Philly) sucked and I dont miss that but I could live in Philly easy. I love FL weather and FL women but I hate Ocala and will be out of here soon enough. FL has the least passionate sports fans (except for Gator fans), so that is a big knock on FL and thats why it doesnt bother me when Bigs puts down Philly fans because I know how much Tampa fans really suck.

I'd feel bad for ya if you werent playing the Phils buddy. But you have to admit that "You took steriods" is a great and fitting for your idiot star batter. Maybe thats why you guys are struggling.. you have a sissy star batter who needs a needle in his butt to hit well, and we have a real MAN (Howard) who says "Just get me to the plate, boys."

Cannon, you must admit that your opinion of Howard last year was off.. but then again you were getting on him for being fat and saying how that wouldnt last, and he wins the WS and just goes into focus hyperdrive and loses 15 pounds and is in good shape. He's so freaking clutch though, its really amazing to watch.

No my opinion was pretty much correct last year and he is about the same hitter with major issues versus lefties. The fact that he lost weight and became a better defensive player made him a better player. And he did have a better year at the plate also but still really struggles with left handers. He hit .208 with 6 Hr and 33 rbi against lefthanders this year with 83 k's in 252 plate appearances, so he was striking out 33% of the time against them. The fact that he got Wolf for a HR is proof that he is really locked in right now not that he can hit lefties on a regular basis. Howard is a very tough out right now. When Padilla hangs one tomorrow, he'll probably hit another HR.

Antitrust32 10-20-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
No my opinion was pretty much correct last year and he is about the same hitter with major issues versus lefties. The fact that he lost weight and became a better defensive player made him a better player. And he did have a better year at the plate also but still really struggles with left handers. He hit .208 with 6 Hr and 33 rbi against lefthanders this year with 83 k's in 252 plate appearances, so he was striking out 33% of the time against them. The fact that he got Wolf for a HR is proof that he is really locked in right now not that he can hit lefties on a regular basis. Howard is a very tough out right now. When Padilla hangs one tomorrow, he'll probably hit another HR.


pretty much all lefties struggle with lefty pitching. I dont think there is one guy I'd rather have on my team than Howard. And that includes Pujols. I'm not saying Howard is a better hitter than Pujols, but Howard is as clutch as it gets and he just comes through when you need it.

"Just get me to the plate, boys" Thats the stuff legends are made from!! :D

Cannon Shell 10-20-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
pretty much all lefties struggle with lefty pitching. I dont think there is one guy I'd rather have on my team than Howard. And that includes Pujols. I'm not saying Howard is a better hitter than Pujols, but Howard is as clutch as it gets and he just comes through when you need it.

"Just get me to the plate, boys" Thats the stuff legends are made from!! :D

If you are talking football I'd agree. However in baseball Pujols is superior in virtually every possible way. Howard may have a touch more opposite field power. That's all I can think of.

I do think Howard is a very good power hitter.

Cannon Shell 10-20-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
pretty much all lefties struggle with lefty pitching. I dont think there is one guy I'd rather have on my team than Howard. And that includes Pujols. I'm not saying Howard is a better hitter than Pujols, but Howard is as clutch as it gets and he just comes through when you need it.

"Just get me to the plate, boys" Thats the stuff legends are made from!! :D

There is no one that I know of that has as radical of splits as Howard. He kills right handers but is generally awful against lefties. He can be countered by a team with a strong lefty. (Randy Wolf is NOT a strong left hander)

The only counter to Pujols is the walk.

Cannon Shell 10-20-2009 06:07 PM

But there is no better fielding first baseman than Teixieria as he showed last night

SCUDSBROTHER 10-20-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Jerome Park is Chan Ho's brother from another mother.

Now, I know.

Cannon Shell 10-21-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Phils in 5

:$:

SCUDSBROTHER 10-22-2009 01:33 AM

Dodgers= Phils' Pet Bitches

Coletti= Reuben's Amaro Jr.'s Bitch

Ned, you might try getting that Ace (Lee) next time, and stop arrogantly going with that piece of sht Broxton. Do that n' you'd of had a 4-3 series. Probably still lose the series 4-3, but ya got no chance with a woman closer, and no ace. Funny how he can't figure this out. These so called pro-executive types are pretty fkn thick. They "know better."

Gander 10-22-2009 08:16 AM

Its really been a consistent theme this postseason...
You have your good teams- Yankees and Phillies... and the other ones who look like they should be playing in Little League: Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers and Twins.

I guess we should all be pysched that the 2 best teams (by far) will be duking it out next week for the title.

The rest of the teams really have a lot of work to do or we could be looking at Yankees-Phillies World Series for many years to come.

Antitrust32 10-22-2009 08:55 AM

I love the Phillies. :tro:

Cannon Shell 10-22-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Its really been a consistent theme this postseason...
You have your good teams- Yankees and Phillies... and the other ones who look like they should be playing in Little League: Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers and Twins.

I guess we should all be pysched that the 2 best teams (by far) will be duking it out next week for the title.

The rest of the teams really have a lot of work to do or we could be looking at Yankees-Phillies World Series for many years to come.

And Derek Jeter is the greatest player of all time too

Smooth Operator 10-22-2009 10:02 AM

Charlie yanked Cole at the right time.

'Pen did a nice job … particularly that Durbin guy … got three or four big outs.


I'm glad Werth plays for the red team.



Victorino too




Would love to see them stuff NY…

SCUDSBROTHER 10-22-2009 02:58 PM

Gander, I think 6 teams (Phils, Yanks, Cards, Boston, Halos, and the Dodgers) were capable of winning it all. I honestly don't think the Rocks n' Twinks had enough pitching. The two teams that are going to meet (Phils n' Yanks) are there for two fundamental reasons. I say fundamental, because people make this stuff way too difficult.

1) Swing at Strikes. Stop swinging at balls. Sounds easy. No, it is evidently not. Look at Casey Blake swing at the low outside pitch last night, and ground to the shortstop. Look at Manny swing on the pitch that Durban threw way inside (that handcuffed him badly.) These 2 people are not paying attention to the fundamentals of this game. To be honest, I think Philly has just collected a smarter group of people. Yes, power is important, but it's this plate discipline that separates them from others in the post. If they were swinging at balls, they couldn't use their power. Well, the Broxton situation is different. That fkn choke was gunna center cut one of them, regardless. The Yanks are also doing well at this, but the Phils are superior at this. They are certainly one of the most plate-disciplined teams we've seen in a while.

2) Throw strikes on the corners, and have command. Well, the Dodgers were certainly abysmal at this, and it's been Mr. Kershaw's problem from day one. I told Cannon that the series depended a lot on how this individual pitched. He failed at command. He does this often, and it keeps him from being an ace. I don't know if this individual will ever gain command. Really, once this guy came up short, I knew they had no shot, and that's why I called the series over after the 5th inning of the 1st game. I knew they would then lay down, and they did. He needed to pitch like he did against the Rocks. He didn't. A great deal of their future depends on managing this guy. They've not done this well. Too much tea drinkin' etc. , and not enough management of players going on. Not nearly enough plate discipline being taught, and a horrible job at getting pitchers like Kershaw to command their pitches. Doesn't help that they refused to get the one ace pitcher available. Philly wanted to win more. Paid the price for him. Colletti etc. did what? -> hem n' haw.. hem n' haw. BTW, the Yanks n' Phils are about even on this starting pitching right now. I'm going to guess the Phils solve C.C. before the Yanks solve Lee. I think the Phils will win it, but it depends so much on the Yanks plate discipline. The Phils plate discipline will be there. If the Yanks have plate discipline, then it will be a very close series. If they don't have that, it's gunna be a very short series.

Gander 10-22-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
And Derek Jeter is the greatest player of all time too

And you are the greatest of all time too.

Cannon Shell 10-22-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
And you are the greatest of all time too.

At least say you were drunk when you posted that.

Gander 10-22-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
At least say you were drunk when you posted that.

LOL. You have a good sense of humor!

And the Phils in 5 was a good prediction.

Who do you like the WS?

Cannon Shell 10-22-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Gander, I think 6 teams (Phils, Yanks, Cards, Boston, Halos, and the Dodgers) were capable of winning it all. I honestly don't think the Rocks n' Twinks had enough pitching. The two teams that are going to meet (Phils n' Yanks) are there for two fundamental reasons. I say fundamental, because people make this stuff way too difficult.

1) Swing at Strikes. Stop swinging at balls. Sounds easy. No, it is evidently not. Look at Casey Blake swing at the low outside pitch last night, and ground to the shortstop. Look at Manny swing on the pitch that Durban threw way inside (that handcuffed him badly.) These 2 people are not paying attention to the fundamentals of this game. To be honest, I think Philly has just collected a smarter group of people. Yes, power is important, but it's this plate discipline that separates them from others in the post. If they were swinging at balls, they couldn't use their power. Well, the Broxton situation is different. That fkn choke was gunna center cut one of them, regardless. The Yanks are also doing well at this, but the Phils are superior at this. They are certainly one of the most plate-disciplined teams we've seen in a while.

2) Throw strikes on the corners, and have command. Well, the Dodgers were certainly abysmal at this, and it's been Mr. Kershaw's problem from day one. I told Cannon that the series depended a lot on how this individual pitched. He failed at command. He does this often, and it keeps him from being an ace. I don't know if this individual will ever gain command. Really, once this guy came up short, I knew they had no shot, and that's why I called the series over after the 5th inning of the 1st game. I knew they would then lay down, and they did. He needed to pitch like he did against the Rocks. He didn't. A great deal of their future depends on managing this guy. They've not done this well. Too much tea drinkin' etc. , and not enough management of players going on. Not nearly enough plate discipline being taught, and a horrible job at getting pitchers like Kershaw to command their pitches. Doesn't help that they refused to get the one ace pitcher available. Philly wanted to win more. Paid the price for him. Colletti etc. did what? -> hem n' haw.. hem n' haw. BTW, the Yanks n' Phils are about even on this starting pitching right now. I'm going to guess the Phils solve C.C. before the Yanks solve Lee. I think the Phils will win it, but it depends so much on the Yanks plate discipline. The Phils plate discipline will be there. If the Yanks have plate discipline, then it will be a very close series. If they don't have that, it's gunna be a very short series.

Kershaw got squeezed by a bad ump. The first 4 innings he was untouchable until the umps stopped calling strikes.

Stop your whining. The Dodgers have a lot of good players and will be good for awhile.


Dont forget Scuds, Kershaw is 21. The youngest regular starter in baseball. He will get even better. The command will get better as it always does with guys with his stuff.

He led MLB in hits allowed per 9 innings. CK had a 2.78 ERA in 31 starts. in 171 innings he allowed 119 hits. He struckout 185 batters in 171 innings. He only allowed 8 Hr's all year. The guy is one of the two or three top young pitchers in the game. Try being an Astros fan.

Cannon Shell 10-22-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
LOL. You have a good sense of humor!

And the Phils in 5 was a good prediction.

Who do you like the WS?

Dont know who is in it yet.

Antitrust32 10-22-2009 04:47 PM

I thought Happ got screwed by the umps a few times. He was hitting some tight corners that should have been strikes but were called balls. That walk he gave up yesterday should have been a strike out. TBS shows that strike zone and two of Happs balls were in the corner of the strikezone. The next inning when Kershaw when in relief they called the exact pitch a strike.

The umps really suck and I hope they are better in the series.

The only positive is they sucked for both teams and not just for one team.

Cannon Shell 10-22-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I thought Happ got screwed by the umps a few times. He was hitting some tight corners that should have been strikes but were called balls. That walk he gave up yesterday should have been a strike out. TBS shows that strike zone and two of Happs balls were in the corner of the strikezone. The next inning when Kershaw when in relief they called the exact pitch a strike.

The umps really suck and I hope they are better in the series.

The only positive is they sucked for both teams and not just for one team.

The umpires have been stunningly bad

Antitrust32 10-22-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The umpires have been stunningly bad


The TBS crew and the umps should all be out of jobs. The Dodgers cheering from the announcers was just gross. They seemed bummed when the Phils clinched.

I LOVED how the Philly fans boo'd that jackass.. think it was Ernie Johnson.

Then the fan had the sign that said"

We hate:

EJ

Santa Claus


good ****.. I LOVE Philly fans :D :{>:

Cannon Shell 10-22-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Dont know who is in it yet.

But assuming that NY gets in I think they will beat Philly.
1. The layoff lets the teams set up their rotations which helps NY a bit more because of CC's heavy (no pun intended) workload and Pettite's age. Plus the Yankees are an older team and guys like Damon, Posada, Matsui and even Jeter will appreciate the rest more than the Phils young guys.

2. NY has a huge advantage in the 7th,8th and 9th innings with Chamberlain, Hughes and Rivera. The lack of a quality lefty may bite them in the ass at least once since Utley, Ibanez and Howard are such a big part of Philly's offense.

3. NY is built for their park and it favors old guy offense as does Citizens Bank.

4. NY has a few good options at DH. The Phils do not.


It is stupid that the WS wont start till next Wed even if NY wins tonight.

Cannon Shell 10-22-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
The TBS crew and the umps should all be out of jobs. The Dodgers cheering from the announcers was just gross. They seemed bummed when the Phils clinched.

I LOVED how the Philly fans boo'd that jackass.. think it was Ernie Johnson.

Then the fan had the sign that said"

We hate:

EJ

Santa Claus


good ****.. I LOVE Philly fans :D :{>:

McCarver still sucks on Fox. He is like the Billy Packer of baseball.

Antitrust32 10-22-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
But assuming that NY gets in I think they will beat Philly.
1. The layoff lets the teams set up their rotations which helps NY a bit more because of CC's heavy (no pun intended) workload and Pettite's age. Plus the Yankees are an older team and guys like Damon, Posada, Matsui and even Jeter will appreciate the rest more than the Phils young guys.

2. NY has a huge advantage in the 7th,8th and 9th innings with Chamberlain, Hughes and Rivera. The lack of a quality lefty may bite them in the ass at least once since Utley, Ibanez and Howard are such a big part of Philly's offense.

3. NY is built for their park and it favors old guy offense as does Citizens Bank.

4. NY has a few good options at DH. The Phils do not.


It is stupid that the WS wont start till next Wed even if NY wins tonight.


well you suck. I'd never count the Phillies out of anything. I wont make predictions though. One good thing is Philly had NO problem with CC last year in the playoffs. CC is no better or worse this year either. Phillies also played the Yanks real well when they faced them this year.. winning the short series in new york. If Citizens bank looks like a small park.. Yankee's stadium is even smaller. Cliff Lee could hit pop fly's that go for HR's there..

We are a lot younger team, but had a lot of minor injuries at the end of the season and could use the days off.. though I dont like 6 days off.. thats way too many. 3 or 4 would be fine.

I thought the Phils may put Ben Francisco in the outfield and have Ibanez be the DH.. but it looks like the may use Stairs as the DH. A Stairs bunt could be a homer in NY.

Cannon Shell 10-22-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
well you suck. I'd never count the Phillies out of anything. I wont make predictions though. One good thing is Philly had NO problem with CC last year in the playoffs. CC is no better or worse this year either. Phillies also played the Yanks real well when they faced them this year.. winning the short series in new york. If Citizens bank looks like a small park.. Yankee's stadium is even smaller. Cliff Lee could hit pop fly's that go for HR's there..

We are a lot younger team, but had a lot of minor injuries at the end of the season and could use the days off.. though I dont like 6 days off.. thats way too many. 3 or 4 would be fine.

I thought the Phils may put Ben Francisco in the outfield and have Ibanez be the DH.. but it looks like the may use Stairs as the DH. A Stairs bunt could be a homer in NY.

I think that CB is going to suit the yankees well, which is the problem. They are a station to station, traditional AL pound the ball team. Philly has some guys like that in Werth, Howard, Stairs but I dont think they can beat the Yankees in a bunch of 10-8 games. The Phil starters have to shutdown the first 7 innings and hope to hold on.

Cannon Shell 10-22-2009 05:40 PM

Manuel IMO is a better manager than Girardi.

IF Girardi screws up one game, IF Lee throws a shutout, IF CC reverts to prior play off form and IF Howard launches a late inning game winner since the yankees have no lefty in the bullpen...the Phils can win

lot of ifs

Gander 10-22-2009 05:46 PM

I'm going to have a tough time rooting for either team but I will probably still watch and just hope for a few nail biters. Since so many of my good friends are Yankee fans, I guess we will all go out and get hammered and I'll go with the crowd. Would be different if the Dodgers got in, and or the Angels. But looks like the California little league teams both came up very short. Ugh.

Antitrust32 10-22-2009 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Manuel IMO is a better manager than Girardi.

IF Girardi screws up one game, IF Lee throws a shutout, IF CC reverts to prior play off form and IF Howard launches a late inning game winner since the yankees have no lefty in the bullpen...the Phils can win

lot of ifs


I dont think we need ANY if's. We just need the boys to keep doin what they've been doing. Remember... Dodgers were supposed to have the best bullpen in baseball and the Phillies bullpen blew all year...

I dont think any of our hitters are afraid of ANY pitcher in the whole wide world. I'd take our line-up over the Yankees line-up. I know you'll disagree, but clutch and heart arent measured in stats. Shoot, our #8 guy Ruiz is hitting as well as ANYONE in the playoffs... including Howards and Aroid.

Should be a good series though. No team will sweep thats for sure. Yankee's will be in for a treat in CB.. our crowd will be rockin. Phils also play real well on the road. Just hope A-rod doesnt go take a shower while the yanks are up by 1 in the bottom of the 9th.

Antitrust32 10-22-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I'm going to have a tough time rooting for either team but I will probably still watch and just hope for a few nail biters. Since so many of my good friends are Yankee fans, I guess we will all go out and get hammered and I'll go with the crowd. Would be different if the Dodgers got in, and or the Angels. But looks like the California little league teams both came up very short. Ugh.


come on man.. you are a Sox fan. you cant root for the Yankees. Why not root for the Phillies? What is not to love about this team unless you are a Dodger or Rockie fan?

Gander 10-22-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
come on man.. you are a Sox fan. you cant root for the Yankees. Why not root for the Phillies? What is not to love about this team unless you are a Dodger or Rockie fan?

I cant explain it but I just dont feel the love for the Phillies. I liked the Pete Rose/Mike Schmidt team back in the day but these guys arent doing it for me. I'll only watch the games when going out drinking beer is involved and I wont stay up late (sober).

Why are they waiting so long to start this thing?

MaTH716 10-22-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
come on man.. you are a Sox fan. you cant root for the Yankees. Why not root for the Phillies? What is not to love about this team unless you are a Dodger or Rockie fan?

I have to admit. I usually can't stomach any team from Philadelphia. But that Phillies team is very easy to root for. They are a hard working bunch. That being said I hope the Yanks (once they get in) maul them.

Gander 10-22-2009 07:00 PM

Who do you think was the best baseball team from this past decade?

Is it this year's NY Yankees?

My vote goes to the 05 White Sox slightly over this year's Yankees.


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