Nice to see you giving up. You have no ability to keep up with me, and never will. REading comprehension 101. An ability you lack.
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me saying "he had them over .500" is not the same as saying he is solely responsible for their improvement. I could say Mike Brown got them to 50 wins last year, and that doesn't mean Mike Brown is the only reason they got to 50 wins. Try again, brutus.

why do I trouble you so much mortimer?? what is it about me??

Fo radies......you give MainCos 2 dollah........he become Fled Galvin....mayer plostitute.....he rove you rong time.

Better effort but still pales compared to my efforts.

Enjoy the Dr Phil show today mortimer, can't say it will be much help however. Maybe a synoptic friend will be on the show for you.

Ilgaugkas is a post up or spot up player, not very mobile. Has a nice touch but not the guy you want putting the ball on the floor in that situation.

Very true. They got a good posession. They got 2 very makable shots and a tip attempt. There surely could have been a foul called on Hamilton. Hughes makes the shot and everything is forgotten.

Ilgaugkas is a post up or spot up player, not very mobile. Has a nice touch but not the guy you want putting the ball on the floor in that situation.
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I was talking pick and roll...spotting up for a 15-20 footer.

Mike Brown coaching record
Regular season 100-64
Playoffs 15-11

The last 24 years Lenny Wilkins coached, his teams made the NBA finals exactly zero times. His lifetime playoff record is 80-98. His record as in the playoffs as a Cavs coach was 18-23. I may not be the expert in Cleveland sports lore that Morty is but I would say that Lenny was dealt a much better hand with Price, Dougherty, Nance, Ron Harper, Elho, and Hot Rod Williams than Brown's current roster.

And Van Gundy did a bang up job with the Rockets in the Playoffs.

Plus you lose many points by not admitting that Isiah is by far the worst coach in the league not named Doc Rivers. Unless you like a lot of other people dont consider the Knicks and Celts part of the NBA any more.

I'm sure you guys will disagree but I think that Brown has outcoached Flipper this series and is unlucky to not be up 2-0.

I really love the theory that if you shoot quick you have a better chance to win. If you are down one and make you give the other team another chance to win. If you are down one and miss and foul you are most likely needing a 3 to tie. I would love to see the probability on teams under 10 seconds in the playoffs, down three points that win or tie. maybe 3%?
They were playing to win the game. If either shot goes in they win. If they dont then they lose. Pretty simple. I'm pretty sure any playoff underdog on the road would love to be in the situation of controlling their own destiny with one last play.

You want a 20 footer from Ilgaugukas as your final play?

Mike Brown coaching record
Regular season 100-64
Playoffs 15-11

The last 24 years Lenny Wilkins coached, his teams made the NBA finals exactly zero times. His lifetime playoff record is 80-98. His record as in the playoffs as a Cavs coach was 18-23. I may not be the expert in Cleveland sports lore that Morty is but I would say that Lenny was dealt a much better hand with Price, Dougherty, Nance, Ron Harper, Elho, and Hot Rod Williams than Brown's current roster.
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Plus in the Salary cap era those teams would have never been able to stay together

no (would prefer 15 footer!)...just an option for a play when the double or triple to LeBron comes...I would want a 20 footer from him over Hughes, Gooden, Marshall, Pavlovic etc.

And what play would you have run? Did you think that Detroit was going to let them get a "decent" shot? Why doesn't anyone talk about the great D played by Hamilton? He played that as well as it is possible to play it. He hampered the shot attempt with his arms across James arm without making it look like a certain foul. Stood his ground without moving towards the offensive player. Perfect d.

What "open look" were they going to get and for whom? Anderson? Hughes?

They did not execute. Simple as that. The play calling is moot. If you dont make shots you lose. Despite Mortys pleas to the contrary there are no appealing options for Cleveland in a half court set under those conditions.

Oh by the way Pat Riley was the godfather of the Pistons/Cavs series style of games. His Knicks of the 90's made thug ball popular

I'm not sure where the Brown is a terrible coach idea came from. This is the farthest a Cavalier team has ever gone. The '76 version under Fitch I believe was the best of the bunch and I feel would have won a title had not Chones broke his foot in practice before the Eastern finals. They were the best team in basketball come playoff time and still took Boston to 6 games without their leading scorer. They would have played a 42 win Phoenix team in the finals that year. The Wilkens teams were incredibly offensively talented with great shooting percentages and efficient offenses, but were peaking during the peak Jordan years which is an excuse Brown doesnt' have that Wilkens did. They still should have advanced to more than 1 conference final in his time.

Brown's first two years are by far and away the best first two years in the history of Cleveland the last 40 years. I mean Flip Murray was a key member on last year's team, and you see how much playing time he is garnering in Detroit this playoff season.

Again, I'm not sure why people on this forum think it is "easy" to get stuff against Detroit's defense. It never is and never has been. The opportunities they had the first two games are about as good as you can possibly get against that team.

They did not execute. Simple as that. The play calling is moot. If you dont make shots you lose. Despite Mortys pleas to the contrary there are no appealing options for Cleveland in a half court set under those conditions.
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James may as well miss it.

Actually he's 11-10. Anyone who counts the Washington series should never talk about the NBA again.

The Eastern Conference was actually competitive when Jordan and Bird played.


Why use rational thinking when you can just put down others? GFY.

LeBron will win, at most, three titles. He's just not as good as his hype.

It was the playoffs. Should we discount the St Louis Cardinals as World Series champions last year because they weren't that good in the regular season??

15-10.

Of course it was...like Jordan's first playoff team that was 30-52 during the regular season and qualified for the playoffs. Super competetive team there. A 30-52 team qualifying for the playoffs is quite indicative of super competion...what could I have been thinking. Jordan and Bird combined for 1 playoff win before the age of 23...I was wrong there. Sorry about that.

c'mon guys...you really don't know who you are dealing with here....offer anything of some value here.

oops...sorry about that again...Jordan's 2nd playoff team went 30-52. His first playoff team was a stellar 38-44. Now that was a competitive eastern conference.

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When in the course of human events it becomes necessary to mutilate and embarrass mortimer you simply do it. Mayber he can point out some of my typos however.

Yes because the Washington Wizards without two of their best players can be compared to a god damn baseball team.

I'm dealing with a horse, of course. Aren't you entered in a 2500 claimer at los al tonight?

Yes and Chicago had a coaching change and in the second year of Jackson's tenure they cut down the nets.

Cleveland won't win a title with Rerun. They need a coach with playoff experience. This guy is winning a series or two not due to his coaching ability, but a weak conference and the services of a top 10 player in the league.

You really shouldn't count the Cardinals as World Series champs becuase the Tiger pitchers couldn't throw to any base with accuracy. the Padres had Mike Piazza and Josh Bard catching, and Russ Branyan at 3rd, that alone should not count as a post season win for the Cardinals last year should it??

The Cardinals did not win their first round series last year and only had 8 postseason wins...is that how we play this game???

YOu guys need to get way better.

Actually they had more than one coaching change after JOrdan joined the team...they had Albeck, Collins I know before Jackson...don't know who else...so it took at least two coaching changes to cut down the nets there.

So using that line of thinking the Miami Heat shouldn't be counted as champions because Shaq couldn't hit free throws and Dallas choked.

So I guess that makes the rest of the NBA teams last year piles of dogsh.it.

Ok i'm getting it.

So that means the next coach will send the Cavs to the promised land. And if you go by Jordan's career that means Brown gets one more season.

Clever use of 70s sitcoms, who was strong in the Eastern conference during Jordan's runs other than the Knicks (alledgedly) and Cavaliers (alledgedly) and the Pacers?? And those teams weren't continually strong...they peaked at different times. It's not like you have 6 or 7 strong teams in any conference any year with a chance to reach the finals. It is rare that more than 3 teams are ever good enough in a particular year.

That is a myth on how strong the conference was...ie, the Celtics playing a 30-52 team in the first round in 86 I think.

you win you win. It counts. IT matters not who you play. They won the first round over Washington. It counts.

The only thing that matters is the championship.

Don't win one? You'll end up a degenerate gambler doing commercials with strong homosexual undertones for a cell phone company.