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jimmy the T 01-19-2011 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 744176)
Mainstream media and society took so kindly to Zenyatta's overwhelmingly generous connections, her impeccable dance moves, and her wonderful story that there was nary a mention of her HOTY crown on any major news outlet in the sporting world. There was a headline yesterday morning on ESPN about Annie Duke starting a new pro poker league. There was nothing on NBC Sports, as Justin Dew mentioned, and they only televise 2/3 of the Triple Crown.

The stuff about her creating new fans and being so meaningful to the game is the latest in a line of disingenuous b.ullshit that we've been fed by the people around her for 2 years. The people who have any concept of this game and how to grow it know that 20,000 screaming sign waving fanatics are not going to prop up our dying sport unless they open their wallets and make a wager. How anyone continues to miss this is beyond me.

I can only pray it's over. The wrong decision was made, but I'm ready to accept it if it means we're done talking about it. I can only hope that a horse comes along and wins the Derby and Preakness so that he/she can be the main focus of the racing world and Zenyatta will return to where she belongs now, in the past.
Can you answer me 3 questions mr negativity, How many screaming sign waving fanatics showed up at a horse race for any other horse last year? And why are you praying its over? Isn't the buzz of Z good for racing?

Coach Pants 01-19-2011 09:23 AM
you left off roll.

NTamm1215 01-19-2011 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy the T (Post 744187)
Can you answer me 3 questions mr negativity, How many screaming sign waving fanatics showed up at a horse race for any other horse last year? And why are you praying its over? Isn't the buzz of Z good for racing?
Where's the buzz? Where did you find stories about Zenyatta winning HOTY yesterday morning aside from racing-related sites? Wasn't part of Zenyatta's "platform" for winning the award because she was some revolutionary who brought racing back to the forefront and made it a part of the sporting world again?

Having fans show up for racing does not mean the horse deserved the HOTY trophy, but you among many others have vastly overrated her achievements and made it possible.

jimmy the T 01-19-2011 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 744190)
Where's the buzz? Where did you find stories about Zenyatta winning HOTY yesterday morning aside from racing-related sites? Wasn't part of Zenyatta's "platform" for winning the award because she was some revolutionary who brought racing back to the forefront and made it a part of the sporting world again?

Having fans show up for racing does not mean the horse deserved the HOTY trophy, but you among many others have vastly overrated her achievements and made it possible.
WOW - thanks for answering my questions LMAO. OK OBVIOUSLY YOU CANT FOCUS ON SIMPLE QUESTIONS. no problem. but my original or any of my posts have Never said Z deservered HOTY. My points are purely trying to show the positive side for the sport not the negative side as your attacks seem to be focused on the 'TROPHY AND THE VOTING'

MaTH716 01-19-2011 09:43 AM
Do trainers count?

gaut10 01-19-2011 09:49 AM
not being recognized by ESPN is probably a good thing these days. ESPN's a joke. it s an "inside edition/current affair" tabloid show. Crap like brett favre's wristwatch "scandal" and kevin garnet/charlie villaneuva's twitter battle are lead stories.

they show more highlights of poker and MMA (neither are sports) than boxing. nothing like seeing two guys mount each other in full guard for 15 minutes.

the marketing arm (NTRA) of thoroughbred racing does a poor job.

sorry, i couldnt resist taking a shot at espn.

NTamm1215 01-19-2011 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy the T (Post 744193)
WOW - thanks for answering my questions LMAO. OK OBVIOUSLY YOU CANT FOCUS ON SIMPLE QUESTIONS. no problem. but my original or any of my posts have Never said Z deservered HOTY. My points are purely trying to show the positive side for the sport not the negative side as your attacks seem to be focused on the 'TROPHY AND THE VOTING'
To answer your ridiculous questions would have been to re-write everything I already had. There's no buzz. I don't care how many people showed up at Hollywood. Hell, 7000 more people showed up at Del Mar the Saturday after she ran.

miraja2 01-19-2011 09:54 AM
In the end there may be no more fitting way for Zenyatta's career to end than for her to lose an actual race....but then to win some phony award. She can now go out on top....because her supporters have manufactured it that way. Her legions of worshipers succeeded in doing what she could not, which is apropos given that they were always a more powerful force in print, on message boards, and on the airwaves than she ever was on the track. Congratulations to them.

Her fans succeeded in at least one other thing as well....they made me despise a good horse that I would have otherwise liked to enjoy. Congratulations again.

jimmy the T 01-19-2011 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 744199)
In the end there may be no more fitting way for Zenyatta's career to end than for her to lose an actual race....but then to win some phony award. She can now go out on top....because her supporters have manufactured it that way. Her legions of worshipers succeeded in doing what she could not, which is apropos given that they were always a more powerful force in print, on message boards, and on the airwaves than she ever was on the track. Congratulations to them.

Her fans succeeded in at least one other thing as well....they made me despise a good horse that I would have otherwise liked to enjoy. Congratulations again.
You must hate 'all' sports teams because (imo) screaming adults dressed in
stupid gear, acting immature is worse than what the z fans did.

Sightseek 01-19-2011 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 744176)
I can only pray it's over. The wrong decision was made, but I'm ready to accept it if it means we're done talking about it. I can only hope that a horse comes along and wins the Derby and Preakness so that he/she can be the main focus of the racing world and Zenyatta will return to where she belongs now, in the past.
You're the one keeping the hate alive. Rock on.

NTamm1215 01-19-2011 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 744213)
You're the one keeping the hate alive. Rock on.
Thanks for keeping tabs on what I'm doing. I appreciate it. Why you even brought up the word hate is baffling.

dellinger63 01-19-2011 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 744194)
Do trainers count?
:tro::tro::tro:

Fine work!

slotdirt 01-19-2011 10:26 AM
Ok, I watch ESPN relatively regularly, and have never seen MMA highlights in my life. Is that just me?

alysheba4 01-19-2011 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 744219)
:tro::tro::tro:

Fine work!
...who is holding up the head?

MaTH716 01-19-2011 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy the T (Post 744211)
You must hate 'all' sports teams because (imo) screaming adults dressed in
stupid gear, acting immature is worse than what the z fans did.
It seems like you're missing the point. Football fans buying apparel and tickets to games are supporting the team and the sport as a whole. Zennyatta fans showing up with pretty signs while supporting the horse are doing absolutely nothing for the game as long as they aren't putting money into the pools. So exactly how is this good for the sport that needs gamblers to thrive?

slotdirt 01-19-2011 10:34 AM
Horse racing apparel sales must be at an all-time high right now.

LARHAGE 01-19-2011 10:49 AM
To keep with the thread title, a great day for racing would be to have Zenyatta booked to Blame, than live stream the breeding shed action via 60 minutes and Oprah, TVG could provide live coverage as well, that way America ( all the fans Zenyatta brought to the sport) could actually say they SAW Zenyatta finish in front of Blame. :D

Sightseek 01-19-2011 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 744223)
It seems like you're missing the point. Football fans buying apparel and tickets to games are supporting the team and the sport as a whole. Zennyatta fans showing up with pretty signs while supporting the horse are doing absolutely nothing for the game as long as they aren't putting money into the pools. So exactly how is this good for the sport that needs gamblers to thrive?
Wasn't it nice getting 5-1 on Blame though?

MaTH716 01-19-2011 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 744236)
Wasn't it nice getting 5-1 on Blame though?
Yeah, I guess all those $2 souvineir win tickets add up.


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