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pba1817 08-07-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 679587)
Final three furlogns in 36.96 is nothing to sneeze at, but for Blame, who made up a few lengths while going wide, it's really strong.

Lucky and Zenyatta will eat these two for lunch at 1 1/4...

NTamm1215 08-07-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 679596)
Lucky and Zenyatta will eat these two for lunch at 1 1/4...

Lookin at Lucky will get his brains bashed in by Blame.

NT

ateamstupid 08-07-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 679596)
Lucky and Zenyatta will eat these two for lunch at 1 1/4...

WEST COAST RULEZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!11!!!!!!!

DaTruth 08-07-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 679580)
Blame is for real.

Not a bad performance from a Super Derby runner. :)

Indian Charlie 08-07-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 679601)
Lookin at Lucky will get his brains bashed in by Blame.

NT

I don't think so, but who knows.

letswastemoney 08-07-2010 05:51 PM

I guess it's time for Mine That Bird to step down in class.

eajinabi 08-07-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 679614)
I guess it's time for Mine That Bird to step down in class.

Dressage?

The Indomitable DrugS 08-07-2010 06:00 PM

It was the only two-turn dirt route of the entire day.

As for my raw figure for the race ...

96 Pace and 104 Final.

This becomes a tricky figure to make and one you could only make an educated guess at and shouldn't trust.

Either todays track was much slower and more tiring than par - or this group royally sucks. I doubt both the latter and former and the answer is probably somewhere in the middle.

hockey2315 08-07-2010 06:03 PM

I really wasn't impressed by anyone's performance in the race. Guess I missed something. I thought QR was flat and Blame benefitted.

2Hot4TV 08-07-2010 06:09 PM

If everybody stays the coarse and make it to the Breeders Cup Classic it will be a the best yet.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-07-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 679617)
I really wasn't impressed by anyone's performance in the race. Guess I missed something. I thought QR was flat and Blame benefitted.

Most likely.

This was the Quality Road that "showed up" in the Hal's Hope at GP earlier this year. I really hope they have an explanation .. because other than getting hit in the eye repeatedly with a braid bead .. I'm surprised at how awful his race was.

Had he closed his right eye through the stretch or flinched a little more than he did - I would be sold that he might have been distracted, but I doubt that did anything more than just annoy him.

Travis Stone 08-07-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 679609)
Not a bad performance from a Super Derby runner. :)

I wrote about this on my site, but believe it or not, the list of horses who lost the Super Derby but later won the whitney includes...

Island Whirl
Will's Way
Awesome Again
Lawyer Ron
Blame

Travis Stone 08-07-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 679617)
I really wasn't impressed by anyone's performance in the race. Guess I missed something. I thought QR was flat and Blame benefitted.

There is some merit here I think. Quality Road was definitely not on his game. I, like many others, was ready to give it to him on the first turn.

I witness first-hand at Gulfstream this year how goofy the track is... it's 9f's but the stretch is short and the jockeys ride it different. You turn for home and you're already at the finish. That helps a horse like Quality Road immensely. Plus, some horses really seem to thrive there... more than the "horse for course" stuff at other tracks.

Regardless though the pace was slow, and Blame was up against it and he still got the job done, and he'll have no problem as the races get longer.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-07-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 679621)
I wrote about this on my site, but believe it or not, the list of horses who lost the Super Derby but later won the whitney includes...

Island Whirl
Will's Way
Awesome Again
Lawyer Ron
Blame

Yeah - I was surprised at how many real good horses haven't fired in the Super Derby and came back strong at 4. Best Pal was off the board in the Super Derby as I'm sure you know.

Smooth Operator 08-07-2010 06:17 PM

Too funny

Yeah, QR sure looks like the "next GZ".



Nuthin like drillin' a horse on synthetic to get them ready for a big dirt race


Lookin At Lucky :tro:

Blame :tro:

eajinabi 08-07-2010 06:48 PM

i wonder if Johnny V looking back 50 times during the race cost him the race.

Travis Stone 08-07-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 679625)
Yeah - I was surprised at how many real good horses haven't fired in the Super Derby and came back strong at 4. Best Pal was off the board in the Super Derby as I'm sure you know.

Yeah, definiteily. Island Whirl won the Whitney two years later but the rest won it the following season.

Indian Charlie 08-07-2010 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 679617)
I really wasn't impressed by anyone's performance in the race. Guess I missed something. I thought QR was flat and Blame benefitted.

I could not have said it better myself.

Granted, I didn't expect QR to lose here, but I thought he looked pretty mediocre in the Met. Mediocre might be too strong a word, but I thought the race was intensely overrated. I don't like his action when not running at GP.

hockey2315 08-07-2010 08:46 PM

111 Beyer for Blame (not buying it). . . 97 for Champagne d'Oro. 96 for Brother Bird, six points faster than his Derby winning bro.

NTamm1215 08-07-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 679676)
111 Beyer for Blame (not buying it). . . 97 for Champagne d'Oro. 96 for Brother Bird, six points faster than his Derby winning bro.

So I'm assuming you're quite skeptical of Champagne d'Oro's figure as well as the decision was clearly made that the track slowed down during the period between the 4th and 9th?

NT


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