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fpsoxfan 05-18-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I wonder if Kent Desormeaux offered after today's 3rd at Belmont whether or not he felt Big Brown could have won any race with the kind of ride he gave Alluring Tune.

Anyone catch that gem?

Yeah. That was a gem. How many times did he check? What was he thinking?

TheSpyder 05-18-2008 06:12 PM

and a big Rimshot! Thanks Steve
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Originally Posted by Kasept
Congratulations.. you just bought your ticket out of here for insulting yet another person who works inside the industry and has more credibility here than you... Those that can't interract with others to the standards set here can ply their nonsense elsewhere...

Bye..


cmorioles 05-18-2008 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Usually one of the first things I do to pad my arguement is quote something Robbie Albarado said. Hard to dispute a word he says.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

fpsoxfan 05-18-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Congratulations.. you just bought your ticket out of here for insulting yet another person who works inside the industry and has more credibility here than you... Those that can't interract with others to the standards set here can ply their nonsense elsewhere...

Bye..

Nighty Night Better Than Honour.

Kasept 05-18-2008 06:17 PM

I was not about to subject 1,000 DTers to that for the next 20 days...

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2008 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
I was not about to subject 1,000 DTers to that for the next 20 days...


I hope, at the very least, you sent him off with some links to other prospective homes.

Kasept 05-18-2008 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I hope, at the very least, you sent him off with some links to other prospective homes.


:rolleyes:









(Haven't I done enough?)

the_fat_man 05-18-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I wonder if Kent Desormeaux offered after today's 3rd at Belmont whether or not he felt Big Brown could have won any race with the kind of ride he gave Alluring Tune.

Anyone catch that gem?

What exactly happened there? From the pan shot, the inference is that he's squeezed going into the turn. From the headon, it's hard to tell whether the horse to his outside comes in or it's because the horse ahead of him, in the 2 path, backs up a bit. Frankly, it appears as if he checked needlessly.

packerbacker7964 05-18-2008 09:27 PM

My God dude he was at almost a crawl when passed the finish line. Kent spent more than 1/2 race looking between his legs and under his arms. Never has a horse won with such ease in the Preakness. After the race he wasn't even breathing hard, throwing his head around kicking and sqealling like a 2 year old.

letswastemoney 05-18-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Albarado should just stick to riding horses. Curlin is a yes, Street Sense a maybe, but the other two, no way

Hard Spun never faced these kind of horses. If Hard Spun were a 3 year old this year, he'd win the Triple Crown more than likely.

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
What exactly happened there? From the pan shot, the inference is that he's squeezed going into the turn. From the headon, it's hard to tell whether the horse to his outside comes in or it's because the horse ahead of him, in the 2 path, backs up a bit. Frankly, it appears as if he checked needlessly.


I was similarly confused and felt, generously, it was some combination thereof. What, in some ways, was worse was how Kent simply gave up and stuck the horse four or so wide and didn't even seem to try until it was too late.

I didn't bet her, and was sort of glad she lost as I had singled her in the Pick-4, pitched the 3:5 in the second, used four of the other five horses, and left the winner out.

fpsoxfan 05-19-2008 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Hard Spun never faced these kind of horses. If Hard Spun were a 3 year old this year, he'd win the Triple Crown more than likely.

Whatever.

slotdirt 05-19-2008 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by packerbacker7964
Never has a horse won with such ease in the Preakness.

Really?

ArlJim78 05-19-2008 08:22 AM

when you have a minimum 10 point beyer edge on your opponents, of course its going to look easy. this is a really nice horse but he hasn't had a real test yet, and may never get one.

alysheba4 05-19-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by packerbacker7964
My God dude he was at almost a crawl when passed the finish line. Kent spent more than 1/2 race looking between his legs and under his arms. Never has a horse won with such ease in the Preakness. After the race he wasn't even breathing hard, throwing his head around kicking and sqealling like a 2 year old.

......... yeah a blind man could see that but, its obvious the people that only talk speed figs are clueless and wouldnt know a great horse if it kicked them in the teeth.

the_fat_man 05-19-2008 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4
......... yeah a blind man could see that but, its obvious the people that only talk speed figs are clueless and wouldnt know a great horse if it kicked them in the teeth.

This is much too obvious and is not really at the root of the issue. It figures that those that can only interpret the game in terms of figures, and thus have no intuitive grasp of it, would be clueless. They just learned the game the wrong way and haven't adjusted. That's fine.
But how about those that know how to properly use the figures and do have the intuitive grasp of the game? Shouldn't they, at least, be able to properly gauge the ability of this horse? Why is the focus, even from them, on the lack of competition, rather than the unique things this horse is able to do?

This is not meant to be critical and is more a result of disappointment than anything else.

alysheba4 05-19-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
This is much too obvious and is not really at the root of the issue. It figures that those that can only interpret the game in terms of figures, and thus have no intuitive grasp of it, would be clueless. They just learned the game the wrong way and haven't adjusted. That's fine.
But how about those that know how to properly use the figures and do have the intuitive grasp of the game? Shouldn't they, at least, be able to properly gauge the ability of this horse? Why is the focus, even from them, on the lack of competition, rather than the unique things this horse is able to do?

This is not meant to be critical and is more a result of disappointment than anything else.

.....its not that, its the flavor of the times to rip every horse thats " great " i have seen it here and at espn a few years ago.... watch, if for some miracle B.B won in elmont then the travers AND won the b cup. it wouldnt be because he is exceptional it would be " the field in the travers was a joke" and " curlin hated the santa anita surface "


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