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atolunch 05-07-2008 09:04 PM

Am I the only one in the world that thinks Behindatthebar warrants taking a look at?

We all know BB had a dominant performance at the Derby, but we all also know he has bad feet, has run 4 lifetime races, and obviously never run twice in two weeks.

ArlJim78 05-07-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by atolunch
Am I the only one in the world that thinks Behindatthebar warrants taking a look at?

We all know BB had a dominant performance at the Derby, but we all also know he has bad feet, has run 4 lifetime races, and obviously never run twice in two weeks.

For lower exotics yes. I think he is better than many people think. However I don't see him as a win candidate here.

CSC 05-08-2008 12:00 PM

I sorta agree with Dutrow. As mentioned in the piece Harlem Rocker could still make the Plate after the Preakness. As Alydeed who finished 2nd in the Preakness did. It's a big jump up from the Withers but he ran by a good horse loose on the lead pretty nonchalantly. It would atleast give the race much needed drama.

In Daily Racing Form, BIG BROWN'S trainer Rick Dutrow was discussing the May 17 Preakness..

Dutrow already is sizing up the prospective opposition for the 1 3/16-mile race. He said "Pletcher's white horse" - Harlem Rocker, the Withers Stakes winner trained by Todd Pletcher - is the only one that concerns him, but otherwise, a horse to upset Big Brown "is going to have to be a really good one."

HARLEM ROCKER is 80% owned by Stronach Stables and 20% by Adena Racing Venture II, the 2nd of 3 syndicate packages of 6 horses offered by Adena Springs.
According to Adena, there are no Canadian owners in the 20% but there sure a lot of fellow bloggers out there who have little pieces of the grey colt.

If Harlem Rocker passes up the Plate Trial, that race will surely be wide open (the Marine Stakes for 3yo's, open company is up next but could have an American-bred winner).
Then, if the Rocker comes for the June 22 Plate after his Preakness attempt, it will make the Plate quite intriguing.

lemoncrush 05-09-2008 09:53 AM

I realize this post has absoutely no merit, but strictly hyptothetically speaking:

If the owners thought that the triple crown was too tough of a task for Big Brown to achieve (based more on the 3 races in 5 weeks and his fragile feet, more than the competition of course), how cool would it be to have him stay stabled at Churchill and face Curlin in the Stephen Foster next month?

Obviously they have far more to gain for him to continue to beat up on 3-year olds and possibly achieve legendary status as the first triple crown winner in ages. But for fans wanting a race between the 2 best colts in the country, this is probably the only opportunity for it to happen.

I realize any 3-yo facing older in stakes competition this early in the year is up against it, whether it's Curlin or whomever. But, it's fun to think about.

freddymo 05-09-2008 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush
I realize this post has absoutely no merit, but strictly hyptothetically speaking:

If the owners thought that the triple crown was too tough of a task for Big Brown to achieve (based more on the 3 races in 5 weeks and his fragile feet, more than the competition of course), how cool would it be to have him stay stabled at Churchill and face Curlin in the Stephen Foster next month?

Obviously they have far more to gain for him to continue to beat up on 3-year olds and possibly achieve legendary status as the first triple crown winner in ages. But for fans wanting a race between the 2 best colts in the country, this is probably the only opportunity for it to happen.

I realize any 3-yo facing older in stakes competition this early in the year is up against it, whether it's Curlin or whomever. But, it's fun to think about.

Nothing worse then when someone doesn't share there drugs.. I will PM my address.. Wow I can't wait to try the stuff

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-09-2008 10:13 AM

if yankee bravo is going to hit the board .paddy g should get a local jock..pino
rose ..solis has almost never ridden this horse well at home .yet at pim a local guy may get him in the money..

freddymo 05-09-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
if yankee bravo is going to hit the board .paddy g should get a local jock..pino
rose ..solis has almost never ridden this horse well at home .yet at pim a local guy may get him in the money..

I get it the jockey will make the horse go faster...

NoLuvForPletch 05-09-2008 10:36 AM

Where is Hey Byrn?

Coach Pants 05-09-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
Where is Hey Byrn?

Still embarrassed over the last race. Won't come out of his stall.

NoLuvForPletch 05-09-2008 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Still embarrassed over the last race. Won't come out of his stall.

Why should he be embarrassed? If you aren't going to run in a race carded for 1 3/16 (THE PREAKNESS) after winning a race at 1 3/16 (THE HOLY BULL) where are you going to run?

Coach Pants 05-09-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
Why should he be embarrassed? If you aren't going to run in a race carded for 1 3/16 (THE PREAKNESS) after winning a race at 1 3/16 (THE HOLY BULL) where are you going to run?

The race was real slow? He has not shot in the Preakness?

NoLuvForPletch 05-09-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
The race was real slow? He has not shot in the Preakness?

sure, but he's run a lot faster than that...and it was 2 weeks after the Fla Derby...it'll be 5 weeks to the Preakness...

slotdirt 05-09-2008 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
He has not shot in the Preakness?

He has NOT shot in Preakness. I like!

Kasept 05-09-2008 12:35 PM

Ichabad Crane added to Preakness...
http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/article/45133.htm

Kasept 05-09-2008 12:55 PM

HEY BYRN is a Preakness 'go'...

blackthroatedwind 05-09-2008 01:19 PM

It's Icabad Crane. No H.

Coach Pants 05-09-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
He has NOT shot in Preakness. I like!

Too many Bloody Mary's at the Country Club this morning.

Kasept 05-09-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's Icabad Crane. No H.

Olde English... ;)

NoLuvForPletch 05-09-2008 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
HEY BYRN is a Preakness 'go'...

Bea must be on the board!

Better Than Honour 05-09-2008 02:01 PM

If Harlem Rocker works well this weekend he is going to the Preakness. Got that from some Stronach people. Shocking considering he owns the track. You have to think the people at NYRA are pushing Pletcher to go North.


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