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KirisClown 04-21-2008 04:51 PM
He would have at least beaten Prince of Andros...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppFYwGf6VMo

blackthroatedwind 04-21-2008 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
If Cigar and Holy Bull had faced each other more, who do you think would have came out on top most of the time? I would go with Holy Bull, but maybe that's just me.
I agree that Holy Bull was better, at least when he was 3, but Cigar ran some very nice races in 1995. His Oaklawn Handicap was very strong.

KirisClown 04-21-2008 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
If Cigar and Holy Bull had faced each other more, who do you think would have came out on top most of the time? I would go with Holy Bull, but maybe that's just me.
Just pretend Valiant Nature is Cigar in this photo...

blackthroatedwind 04-21-2008 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I never said he would have won the race. I just don't think he would have run last.

That depends.....was Spring House in there?

KirisClown 04-21-2008 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I agree that Holy Bull was better, at least when he was 3, but Cigar ran some very nice races in 1995. His Oaklawn Handicap was very strong.
Up to 9F I think Holy Bull would have had his number each and every time..

At 10F Cigar would have had the advantage..

The Indomitable DrugS 04-21-2008 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I never said he would have won the race. I just don't think he would have run last.
Are you saying Cigar is Spring House?

The Indomitable DrugS 04-21-2008 05:06 PM
And Mike Mitchell's Church Service as well!

Not to mention he was a sneaky great 3rd in his prior start!

Gander 04-21-2008 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Of course not. Cigar was half the horse Spring House is. Geez. Don't you know Spring House beat On the Acorn. :rolleyes:
Whoops, I meant Spring at Last. Sorry, wrong horse! Wasnt he terrible on Wood Day?

The Indomitable DrugS 04-21-2008 05:36 PM
You are confusing Spring House (who proved himself as perhaps the best American turf marathoner around when a sneaky 3rd by 6 lengths at Hollywood Park) with Spring At Last .. who tanked on Wood Day.

Gander 04-21-2008 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
You are confusing Spring House (who proved himself as perhaps the best American turf marathoner around when a sneaky 3rd by 6 lengths at Hollywood Park) with Spring At Last .. who tanked on Wood Day.
Thanks, and yes, I corrected my previous post. Tank would be a good word to describe that performance....hmmm, I wonder why :D

The Indomitable DrugS 04-21-2008 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gander
hmmm, I wonder why :D
Because Jennifer Love Hewitt only bet $7,500 on him... and not her typical $15,000?

Gander 04-21-2008 05:44 PM
:p
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Because Jennifer Love Hewitt only bet $7,500 on him... and not her typical $15,000?
Nope, I was thinking of another reason! :p


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