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satan's twin 06-26-2007 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
the Goose is ours

I mean come on she can beat at least 1 of the 3

Belmont is notorious for 6 horse fields with at least 1 scratch

Sumwon wins this race if Mother Goose is the only other contestant.

Riot 06-26-2007 11:51 AM

Hey Chuck
 
Is Sumwon going to work Wednesday am (can be there) or Thursday am (can't be there until after 9:30a) or you playing it by ear?

Cannon Shell 06-26-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Is Sumwon going to work Wednesday am (can be there) or Thursday am (can't be there until after 9:30a) or you playing it by ear?

I think tommorrow am @8:30

brianwspencer 06-26-2007 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Using the complex theory of extrapolation I'll go with 9-1. :p

I'd expect much longer than that, given Byenne is 15-1 in there and has looked pretty darn good at basically the same current class that Sumwon is at right now. A filly she beat came back to run a pretty bang-up race at AP on Sunday, losing to a nice winner and a horse who had won two in a row at the same level (for a tag the second time). Unless bettors were unequivocally convinced that Sumwon was going to take a big step forward, I'd be thinking at least 15-1 in there, probably closer to 20-1.

It's irrelevant anyway, and what the heck do I know, but wanted to throw my two cents in.

That's a pretty tough field for a Prairie Meadows race like that, probably better that she doesn't go there.

ArlJim78 06-26-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by satan's twin
Sumwon wins this race if Mother Goose is the only other contestant.

I'm not sure how well Mother Goose will get around carrying 120 pounds.

NoCarolinaTony 06-26-2007 03:36 PM

Good to hear she is doing better
 
If your thinking lucky it's the perfect day (if your a craps player).

Anyway it's Unfortunate but the date of the next race possibility is 7/11, As hopefully I will have landed in Taiwan by then. Would have loved to go to Chicago to see her run. it's been years since I've been to Arlington. If not I will follow via the internet.

Keep us posted as plans develop. You guys have done a great job of that.

NC Tony

AeWingnut 06-26-2007 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by satan's twin
Sumwon wins this race if Mother Goose is the only other contestant.


Just talking

Danzig 06-26-2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by satan's twin
Sumwon wins this race if Mother Goose is the only other contestant.

i don't know, the Goose could be tough, she might be rounding into form.

Riot 06-26-2007 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I'm not sure how well Mother Goose will get around carrying 120 pounds.

But isn't BTW riding Sumwon?

Riot 06-26-2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I think tommorrow am @8:30

Terrific - will be there.

Bigsmc 06-26-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I'm not sure how well Mother Goose will get around carrying 120 pounds.

Word on the backstretch is that she can flat out fly.

ArlJim78 06-26-2007 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
But isn't BTW riding Sumwon?

yeah i guess that evens it out!

Scav 06-26-2007 09:54 PM

All I want to say is don't get Douglas to ride, he doesn't fit her one bit. If you can get Sterling Jr, Campbell, or Graham, it will be picture time.

AeWingnut 06-26-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
All I want to say is don't get Douglas to ride, he doesn't fit her one bit. If you can get Sterling Jr, Campbell, or Graham, it will be picture time.


what about Perez or Emigh ?

Scav 06-26-2007 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
what about Perez or Emigh ?

I doubt you could get Emigh, he has all connected with big outfits. Perez, I don't know. You either get the most unbelievable ride of all time or you get shafted.

I am not even going to mention Ferrer, who I have supported here because he is on my **** list right now for the ride he gave on a horse on Friday at like 12/1. I had 200WP/$25 DD/ $20 Exas going with that fool and he tries to shoot the friggin rail with this tiring 40/1 horse that was bore'ing in. It was very Laviolette-ish....

In all honesty, if they were looking to take a risk, I would give Diego Sanchez a try, the kid rides his friggin ass off and he aint scared of nothing, would fit Sum to a T IMO

onebadbeast 06-26-2007 11:15 PM

forget graham that guy rode her before and he sucks.

Bigsmc 06-27-2007 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast
forget graham that guy rode her before and he sucks.

Because of his ride on her at Keeneland or because you think he sucks in general?

I think Chuck and Steve have already indicated that she was probably in over her head (at that point in her training) and a little short for the race. So I don't think James Graham is the one to blame for that race.

If you have other reasons to think JG sucks then that is fine and your opinion.

miraja2 06-27-2007 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast
forget graham that guy rode her before and he sucks.

I completely disagree with you.
J. Graham does not suck. He is a very good jock for the most part, and typically he is especially dangerous on the turf.
She didn't lose that turf race because of the ride she received, and if he was available for the race, I think he would be a good fit.

The Bid 06-27-2007 08:35 AM

Graham can get into trouble spots many people couldnt find if they tried.

AeWingnut 06-27-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I doubt you could get Emigh, he has all connected with big outfits. Perez, I don't know. You either get the most unbelievable ride of all time or you get shafted.

I am not even going to mention Ferrer, who I have supported here because he is on my **** list right now for the ride he gave on a horse on Friday at like 12/1. I had 200WP/$25 DD/ $20 Exas going with that fool and he tries to shoot the friggin rail with this tiring 40/1 horse that was bore'ing in. It was very Laviolette-ish....

In all honesty, if they were looking to take a risk, I would give Diego Sanchez a try, the kid rides his friggin ass off and he aint scared of nothing, would fit Sum to a T IMO

I've cashed with Lantz but he seems to come from out of it
Sumwon doesn't

eh, I think Chuck already has a relationship with Jimmy Graham
but what do I know


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