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tycharles01 04-16-2007 09:12 PM
I like CQ more and more, still not as much as Street Sense.

Just hope Johnny V remembers CQ is a closer and does not make a move to earli

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-16-2007 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
i told you not to bet Time Squared in the BG.
i told you Chekov was not a good play.
i told you that I would not bet on Lightstyle.
these were all strong feelings you had.

Here is another one, don't bet like crazy on No Biz in the Derby. He is not very likely to win imo, and I feel strongly about that.
Agreed...I try to always toss one of the top Derby contenders each year;
this year...it's PG1985 choice.

And it's got nothing to do with you're posting...I just don't like him in this spot.

saucon17 04-16-2007 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Ranked how? By wins or was it a vote?
DH, a combination of stats of # wins, win%, stakes wins, and avg earned
per ride.

Here is their Top 20

#2 Leparoux
#3 Johhny V
#4 Bravo
#5 R Baze
#6 Gomez
#7 Victor E
#8 Lescano
#9 Coa
#10 Prado
#11 Pino
#12 C Nak
#13 R Bejarano
#14 P Val
#15 J Rose
#16 Martin Garcia
#17 Rosie N
#18 Chad Schvaneveldt
#19 Emigh
#20 T Dunkleberger

NTamm1215 04-16-2007 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saucon17
DH, a combination of stats of # wins, win%, stakes wins, and avg earned
per ride.

Here is their Top 20

#2 Leparoux
#3 Johhny V
#4 Bravo
#5 R Baze
#6 Gomez
#7 Victor E
#8 Lescano
#9 Coa
#10 Prado
#11 Pino
#12 C Nak
#13 R Bejarano
#14 P Val
#15 J Rose
#16 Martin Garcia
#17 Rosie N
#18 Chad Schvaneveldt
#19 Emigh
#20 T Dunkleberger
That's probably a terrific barometer if you believe there are nine jockeys in the country better than Edgar Prado.

NT

Scav 04-16-2007 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tycharles01
I like CQ more and more, still not as much as Street Sense.

Just hope Johnny V remembers CQ is a closer and does not make a move to earli
He knows this and I think he is your winner, at a possibly juicy 12/1

saucon17 04-16-2007 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215
That's probably a terrific barometer if you believe there are nine jockeys in the country better than Edgar Prado.

NT
If you want a good laugh also you should see their trainer rankings

saucon17 04-16-2007 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Especially with Bravo so high on the list.
Just look who he rides against at Monmouth Park absolutely nothing except for Lezcano. His stats are inflated by riding there.

hockey2315 04-16-2007 09:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saucon17
DH, a combination of stats of # wins, win%, stakes wins, and avg earned
per ride.

Here is their Top 20

#2 Leparoux
#3 Johhny V
#4 Bravo
#5 R Baze
#6 Gomez
#7 Victor E
#8 Lezcano
#9 Coa
#10 Prado
#11 Pino
#12 C Nak
#13 R Bejarano
#14 P Val
#15 J Rose
#16 Martin Garcia
#17 Rosie N
#18 Chad Schvaneveldt
#19 Emigh
#20 T Dunkleberger
Umm. . . Cornelio? Maybe Kent? I don't even know who #18 and 20 are. . .

whodey17 04-16-2007 09:29 PM
The bet of the Derby is to box every non-pletcher and no o'neil horse in an exacta.

Scav 04-16-2007 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Totally agree, but I feel the same way about Baze as well. I'm sure I'll get blasted for it, but it's true.
I agree, honestly, I wish he would go to southern cal and win a couple titles to validate what he is done.

Otherwise, the talk will always be there. And what does he have to lose, he would be instantly accepted if his heart was into it.

whodey17 04-16-2007 09:32 PM
Baze is a very capable jock. You do not stay on top for so long on any circuit if you do not have talent. Baze has won his fair share of nice races.

Scav 04-16-2007 09:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whodey17
Baze is a very capable jock. You do not stay on top for so long on any circuit if you do not have talent. Baze has won his fair share of nice races.
Not really...How many graded stakes has he won in S. Cal? i am not being sarcastic, being serious. I am sure he has won a couple, but winning graded stakes races in N.Cal is like winning stakes races at Arlington on any day but Million Day

Bobby Fischer 04-16-2007 09:34 PM
What a lineup!

His stock may peak at 8.5 or 9 furlongs, but this is an all-star team.
No big surprizes but good to hear something as well. Looks like the Tabor home-bred Circular Quay has been their top hope.

Prado earned his mount in the Florida Derby with Scat Daddy.

Blinkers-Off yet with Sam P. ?

saucon17 04-16-2007 09:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Yeah I agree, aside from the Lost in the Fog rides, who lets be honest, you or I could have rode him, the only graded stake I can remember him winning is the sprint on Derby day a few years ago on a Hollendorfer horse.
Ah, Trickey Trevor

whodey17 04-16-2007 09:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav
Not really...How many graded stakes has he won in S. Cal? i am not being sarcastic, being serious. I am sure he has won a couple, but winning graded stakes races in N.Cal is like winning stakes races at Arlington on any day but Million Day
How many opportunities has he had to ride in Graded races in So Cal?


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