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Hickory Hill Hoff 10-20-2008 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Sooo last week.;)

He was "BIG" with some....not me! ;)

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-20-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Steve has a relationship with the BC and is promoting them. I understand.

It's the worst BC ever. The good news, however, is next year should be worse.

You're lucky Andy, you get to see the "people's horse" on Saturday (Evening Attire) that's better than anything on the "left" coast.

hrfan 10-20-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I hear ya. The more I look at him, I can see a case made for Daytona. If Thorn Song is unable to keep him honest, he could do some damage. I'm not sure he'll be the huge price people are expecting though. Goldikova is going to be very tough I think. I'm not sure what his odds are going to be, but I think Whatsthescript is going to run well also. He has run very well when fresh in the past and his last race was super.

Thorn Song ????? OMG

philcski 10-20-2008 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
Mush weight ? You must be super educated like HOSS, to have me liking a horse as a betting angle. I thought you were better then this.

Wake me when you actually pick a winner.

I hope we're both right on this one, how bout that?

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I hear ya. The more I look at him, I can see a case made for Daytona. If Thorn Song is unable to keep him honest, he could do some damage. I'm not sure he'll be the huge price people are expecting though. Goldikova is going to be very tough I think. I'm not sure what his odds are going to be, but I think Whatsthescript is going to run well also. He has run very well when fresh in the past and his last race was super.

I hate Whatsthescript, not because of the horse but the trainer. I'll barf at the next Cost of Freedom he comes up with.

letswastemoney 10-20-2008 07:49 PM

I really wish they would make this a one day event again. A horse like Zenyatta deserves a marquee slot in front of the biggest audience.

How is that possible if people will be at work??

philcski 10-20-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
OMG what? I didn't say I liked Thorn Song, I said I think he's the only horse capable of softening up Daytona. Is this untrue?

That's what I thought you said too. Thorn Song = nice horse, no shot here.

Linny 10-20-2008 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
what league was Red Rocks in the first time he won this race ?
Also Europe's best are running in the Classic, correct ?

he beat the worst bunch to Euro's to ever run in the turf. Only Soldier of Fortune and Conduit are considered G1 there, and it might be a stretch to call Conduit G1, though he won the St Leger. Since Henry (miler) and Duke (maybe past his best) are in the Classic, the Turf is more wide open and RR does have a shot, IF Soldier and Conduit (and even Eagle Mtn) fail miserably. Also, RR has scratched from the Sword Dancer and didn't go in the Joe Hirsch Turf Classic (his intended prep) which is a concern. When was the last time Hennig won a G1, 12f grass race off a 3 1/2 mo. layoff.

Throat, you are right about GC. I was OK in Europe but he faced a pretty poor bunch (relatively speaking) in Rail Link and Red Rocks. Look at what RR did in his recent tries w/G1 Euro's in Europe. He like firm and Lasix, and the easier company here..

the_fat_man 10-20-2008 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I really wish they would make this a one day event again. A horse like Zenyatta deserves a marquee slot in front of the biggest audience.

How is that possible if people will be at work??

If it's that important, take a sick/personal day.

miraja2 10-20-2008 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
So I don't see any problem with discussing the races now.

I don't see any problem with discussing the races or horses in a general way either. I had no problem with the original poster's decision to bring up three specific horses who he believed merited some discussion. That's fine.
My only point was that hrfan seemed to have decided that he was tossing a bunch of a horses already from a lot of races. That struck me as rather unproductive given the fact that we don't even know who is in the damn races yet.

blackthroatedwind 10-20-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
he beat the worst bunch to Euro's to ever run in the turf. Only Soldier of Fortune and Conduit are considered G1 there, and it might be a stretch to call Conduit G1, though he won the St Leger. Since Henry (miler) and Duke (maybe past his best) are in the Classic, the Turf is more wide open and RR does have a shot, IF Soldier and Conduit (and even Eagle Mtn) fail miserably. Also, RR has scratched from the Sword Dancer and didn't go in the Joe Hirsch Turf Classic (his intended prep) which is a concern. When was the last time Hennig won a G1, 12f grass race off a 3 1/2 mo. layoff.

Throat, you are right about GC. I was OK in Europe but he faced a pretty poor bunch (relatively speaking) in Rail Link and Red Rocks. Look at what RR did in his recent tries w/G1 Euro's in Europe. He like firm and Lasix, and the easier company here..

Hurricane Run was in the BC against Red Rocks in 2006.

They weren't top Group 1 horses over there, but even their ranks have been pretty thin the last few years in the distance Group 1s, and both were at least marginally competitive.

Bigsmc 10-20-2008 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Byk and some Oak Tree guy were acting like it's going to be the best two days of racing ever on ATR.

I heard an old Saratoga show and turned the channel. He had a show today?

2Hot4TV 10-20-2008 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
If it's that important, take a sick/personal day.

Works for me.

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-20-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
If it's that important, take a sick/personal day.

That's exactly I did.

Kasept 10-20-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
I heard an old Saratoga show and turned the channel. He had a show today?

Understood from Casey said there was a connection issue for a couple minutes early on... Sorry.

Bigsmc 10-20-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Understood from Casey said there was a connection issue for a couple minutes early on... Sorry.

No problem. Listening on the net now. MNF muted.

mclem0822 10-20-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Understood from Casey said there was a connection issue for a couple minutes early on... Sorry.

Well, you guys more than made up for the technical problems Steve. The show with Ms. Miller in particular was great! I'm sitting there at work going through the Euros already, her information was wonderfully helpful.

Kasept 10-20-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Understood from Casey said there was a connection issue for a couple minutes early on... Sorry.

Those that missed or thought there was no live show should catch the stream at ATR website, the replays tomorrow or the archives for Kate Miller of famed British bookmaker William Hill, providing an overview of EVERY Euro running in the Cup. Invaluable opinion, especially on the lesser-known imports in the under-covered races.

Coach Pants 10-20-2008 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Those that missed or thought there was no live show should catch the stream at ATR website, the replays tomorrow or the archives for Kate Miller of famed British bookmaker William Hill, providing an overview of EVERY Euro running in the Cup. Invaluable opinion, especially on the lesser-known imports in the under-covered races.

Does she have nice teeth?


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