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Travis Stone 06-06-2015 11:10 PM

I said earlier in the day that if he's going to win, I hope he wins it with style. I didn't want to see some nonsense pokey pace with no challengers. Well, he brought the goods today.

Materiality tried to make a move (he was empty anyway) and Pharoah was back in front in less than two strides. Frosted ran a Belmont winning race but was second best.

The slow motion video of his stride at the finish - at the end of 12 furlongs - was awesome. Deserving winner, left no doubt. Greatest game in the world.

SundayStar 06-06-2015 11:31 PM

A thing of beauty!:D

OldDog 06-06-2015 11:41 PM

:tro::tro::tro:
With Authority. The way you want to see a TC won. I've watched the race at least ten times and I am still in awe of the perfect ride that Victor gave him and how easy it looked. And yet his time was the second fastest Belmont by a TC winner. American Pharoah left no doubt: He is the real deal.

Yay!!!

pick4 06-06-2015 11:56 PM

When American Pharoah turned for home and put away Frosted I jumping up and down a was screaming TRIPLE CROWN. My son was next to me but did not understand the significance of the race. What an amazing race. What an amazing horse American Pharoah. What an amazing trainer Bob Baffert.

Sightseek 06-06-2015 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 1030388)
I said earlier in the day that if he's going to win, I hope he wins it with style. I didn't want to see some nonsense pokey pace with no challengers. Well, he brought the goods today.

Materiality tried to make a move (he was empty anyway) and Pharoah was back in front in less than two strides. Frosted ran a Belmont winning race but was second best.

The slow motion video of his stride at the finish - at the end of 12 furlongs - was awesome. Deserving winner, left no doubt. Greatest game in the world.

Frosted really did give everything he had. What a spectacular moment!!! :tro: :{>:

Indian Charlie 06-07-2015 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1030382)
I'm more inclined to believe it has a whole lot more to do with the fact that, combined, horses coming out of the Florida Derby are now 0 for 32.

That's simply just not possible. The two fastest horses in the crop came out of the race!

GenuineRisk 06-07-2015 12:44 AM

Finally got home about 20 minutes ago.

What a great day. Gorgeous weather, and as much as I complained about NYRA capping attendance, it was soooo much more pleasant than last year. Food lines were crazy, and other than a few options, the food trucks were moved to an area in the back pretty far away, which I was not a fan of, as the lines were incredibly long and you were so far away from the action you were likely to miss a race or three. Lines to wager weren't bad, though.

I had four friends with me- three who came last year and the mother of one of those friends, who was also my Girl Scout troop leader when I was a kid. If you'd told me back then one day my Girl Scout troop leader would be buying me a drink at the racetrack... :) Two of my friends are sound designers on Broadway, and as soon as the cast from Jersey Boys started singing, they were discussing the vocals, and approvingly noting that the lead was singing without a backing track. Apparently, in the actual show he has a backing track, because nobody can sing those notes eight times a week. Fun fact for those who've seen the show. All I know is the obviously new at his job teller trying his best to place our bets panicked when the live music started because suddenly he could not hear anything we were saying. It was pretty funny.

My friends all had General Clubhouse admissions; I had one single reserved seat I bought in April, just in case, so I ended up sitting with strangers in the upper tier, two of whom got kicked out ten minutes before the race because they had actually snuck in without tickets. Great view of the finish line. The upper tiers very enthusiastically joined in on "New York, New York." My stepmom, of course, called with last-minute bets for me to run and place for her. On Materiality.

I've been at Belmont for Charismatic, Funny Cide, Smarty, Big Brown and Chrome. This was the only time I felt calm before the gates opened. There was a woman next to me (she very kindly let me move to her right so I could get a little further away from the very tall guy in front of me who kept weaving back and forth and blocking my view), who was terribly worried when AP was in front early, and I kept saying, "No, it's okay. It's not too fast. This is okay. He can win on the front," to her, until he started pulling away in the stretch and then we were both screaming. Yeah, as everyone said, the sound of the crowd was just incredible. And then it started again as Espinoza rode him back in front of the crowd after. So much joy.

And I have to give big props to NYRA for booking the Goo Goo Dolls after. A fairly sizable crowd stayed to listen, and I think it really helped slow the rush of people out to the LIRR. They closed with "American Girl," which is I guess the best song they could think of for American Pharoah. There was a moment when they were singing with the stage lights on them and the tractors drove behind them, smoothing out the track, and I thought, NYRA really did make this a festival.

The train situation was much better than last year- we got right on one, and although we then sat for a half hour because of a medical emergency of some kind, I can't blame NYRA for that. All in all, a really, really well run day.

Every year I record the Belmont (since I go to the track every year), and on the TC years, I come home and delete the recording without watching, because I can't bear to watch it. Now I can't wait to watch it first thing tomorrow morning.

At last.

GenuineRisk 06-07-2015 01:08 AM

The NYPost gives it a great write-up:

http://nypost.com/2015/06/06/america...orth-the-wait/

philcski 06-07-2015 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1030400)
The NYPost gives it a great write-up:

http://nypost.com/2015/06/06/america...orth-the-wait/

I would be VERY grateful if someone can snag a copy of the Post tomorrow for me. Not sure the California edition will have the picture since it's pre-printed.

South Beach Luv 06-07-2015 02:23 AM

I'm biased but enjoyed this:


https://medium.com/racing-reviewer/h...n-ee85c358a2e9

saratogadew 06-07-2015 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1030307)
Beloved Nerdy Trailers who were there please, later on when you're home, do tell us how fantabulous it was being there!!!!!

I'm 47 years old and have seen hundreds of live sporting events. This was the greatest sporting event I have ever witnessed. I will never forget the thunderous roar of the crowd as AP was flying down the stretch.

Pants II 06-07-2015 09:44 AM

Will never forget it.

Love him or hate him Bob Baffert is the face of horse racing and his replacement has big shoes to fill. The guy was made for television. Right after the greatest achievement of his career he is thinking about his mother and father.

You can't write a better script, folks. The sport hit lightning in a bottle yesterday.

DonGuido 06-07-2015 10:10 AM

I kept saying by 12 lengths, by 12 lengths . . . so I was a little to optimistic. I'll take it, but the fact that Espinoza never really had to push him, 12 lengths and a possible Belmont record time was easily in his grasp. It was simple perfection, that's all!!! The only thing better would have been being there.

my miss storm cat 06-07-2015 10:15 AM

I've only followed the sport for 11 years, since Smarty, and it is absolutely incredible reading the accounts of those of you who were there.

Thanks for taking the time and for adding in so many details! :)

A great read! I still cannot stop smiling and, like others, I had tears in my eyes watching yesterday

DonGuido 06-07-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1030444)
I've only followed the sport for 11 years, since Smarty, and it is absolutely incredible reading the accounts of those of you who were there.

Thanks for taking the time and for adding in so many details! :)

A great read! I still cannot stop smiling and, like others, I had tears in my eyes watching yesterday

Yes, my wife and I diluted our margarita's with a few sitting at the bar.

Pants II 06-07-2015 10:20 AM

The moment I knew the horse was going to win...


DonGuido 06-07-2015 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1030400)
The NYPost gives it a great write-up:

http://nypost.com/2015/06/06/america...orth-the-wait/

Alright so now I just diluted my coffee with a couple tears. Great narration. Thanks for sharing! Off to get a new cup of coffee and try to think of what else I need to do today . . . but the race just keeps getting in my way and that's OK.

hondo 06-07-2015 10:48 AM

Got to watch history and it was moving...brought back the 70s when I started following the sport....too long but worth the wait. Wish I was there but made a decision not to go to Monmouth and bet at home so I got to watch him in on a 65 inch plasma with the surround sound turned up in the "man cave".

GenuineRisk 06-07-2015 10:55 AM

Now I wonder if Breyer Animal Creations will commission a new mold for Pharoah or just reuse the Smarty Jones one. ;)

hondo 06-07-2015 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1030458)
Now I wonder if Breyer Animal Creations will commission a new mold for Pharoah or just reuse the Smarty Jones one. ;)

I check my email today and it been inundated with American Pharoah memorabilia:zz::zz:

GenuineRisk 06-07-2015 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hondo (Post 1030460)
I check my email today and it been inundated with American Pharoah memorabilia:zz::zz:

I'm totally buying the Christmas ornament. Because you know there will be a Christmas ornament.

hondo 06-07-2015 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1030462)
I'm totally buying the Christmas ornament. Because you know there will be a Christmas ornament.

I'll probably be right behind you with the Christmas ornament we can go together with my Yankee and Packer ornaments and the ones I have of Secretariat and War Admiral :)

GenuineRisk 06-07-2015 03:29 PM

I just have to post the last few paragraphs from the NYPost article I linked to earlier in the thread. I've reread it 5 times already today. So gorgeous:

Quote:

Here they all were, and here was New York City, 90,000 strong, and the instant American Pharoah crossed the finish line — did you channel Gary Cohen — “It. Has. HAPPENED!” — the scene everywhere at Belmont Park was one you’ll remember for a lifetime:
Strangers slapping hands. Strangers exchanging hugs. Fans on every level of the grandstand exiting their seats, taking to the corridors, running wildly, as if *inspired by what they’d seen, emptying their lungs with glee, with joy, with bliss. Some of them weeping, too.
If somehow the Yankees could win the World Series, the Giants the Super Bowl and the Knicks the NBA championship at the same exact time, in the same exact place — well, that’s what it sounded like. If you were there, you’ll remember that sound forever. You’ll remember what you saw. Forever. History as it happened.
The drought is over. That little horse deserved it. And so did you.

BigBlue 06-07-2015 03:30 PM

Just got back from a quick trip .... that was amazing. Besides the obvious of being there on such a historical day, wanted to share a few things.
  • Thanks to those who offered advice on navigating the day - followed all of it and had a great experience.
  • First time at Belmont and I could not have been more impressed. I don't have as much experience as many on this board but I've been to my share of tracks over the last 15 years. Yesterday was one of the most enjoyable that I've ever had.
  • Every employee at that place, from the security guards to the tellers, to the "Ask Me" guides, to the bartenders ... to a person, they were so polite and helpful - to the point where I'm compelled to write about it. It was that remarkable.
  • I thought the place was spotless. We were in clubhouse general admission and it was quite nice. Not too crowded. Never waited longer than 30 seconds to place a wager (self service) the entire day.
  • I don't follow the Belmont broadcast that closely, but I know of Andy Serling primarily through Steve's show. I enjoyed watching Andy and the co-host on the monitors between races - he was so fired up yesterday. The energy was contagious. Thought it was great.
  • I thought the crowd was great - didn't see anything obnoxious or rude or crude. Just good folks that you would want to hang out with for a day.
  • We took a cab in to the track in the morning and took the LIRR back to hotel. We stayed until after the last race and waited ZERO minutes to get on the Jamaica/Penn Station train. It was seamless.
  • And many other things. Honestly, the only negative yesterday was that I left Tommy Macho out of the second leg of the Pick 5. Need to go back and see what I missed.

Anyway, thanks NYRA. Thanks Belmont. Thanks New York. Thanks Pharoah.

That was one great day ... can't wait to return.

DonGuido 06-07-2015 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBlue (Post 1030519)
Just got back from a quick trip .... that was amazing. Besides the obvious of being there on such a historical day, wanted to share a few things.
  • Thanks to those who offered advice on navigating the day - followed all of it and had a great experience.
  • First time at Belmont and I could not have been more impressed. I don't have as much experience as many on this board but I've been to my share of tracks over the last 15 years. Yesterday was one of the most enjoyable that I've ever had.
  • Every employee at that place, from the security guards to the tellers, to the "Ask Me" guides, to the bartenders ... to a person, they were so polite and helpful - to the point where I'm compelled to write about it. It was that remarkable.
  • I thought the place was spotless. We were in clubhouse general admission and it was quite nice. Not too crowded. Never waited longer than 30 seconds to place a wager (self service) the entire day.
  • I don't follow the Belmont broadcast that closely, but I know of Andy Serling primarily through Steve's show. I enjoyed watching Andy and the co-host on the monitors between races - he was so fired up yesterday. The energy was contagious. Thought it was great.
  • I thought the crowd was great - didn't see anything obnoxious or rude or crude. Just good folks that you would want to hang out with for a day.
  • We took a cab in to the track in the morning and took the LIRR back to hotel. We stayed until after the last race and waited ZERO minutes to get on the Jamaica/Penn Station train. It was seamless.
  • And many other things. Honestly, the only negative yesterday was that I left Tommy Macho out of the second leg of the Pick 5. Need to go back and see what I missed.

Anyway, thanks NYRA. Thanks Belmont. Thanks New York. Thanks Pharoah.

That was one great day ... can't wait to return.

Good for you to have the lasting memory. Sounds like the NYRA and the locals put on their Sunday best. And why not expecting and getting what they were hoping for at last. :D

jms62 06-07-2015 05:08 PM

NYRA nailed it. From the extra 2 races to the concert afterwards they managed the mass exoudus flawlessly. I Guess the Chief Expierence Officer they hired 2 weeks before last years Triple crown try given proper time was well worth it.

South Beach Luv 06-07-2015 08:18 PM

I transcribed the call by Larry Collmus for my wife so she could know what he said. I'll share it because just reading it again gives me goosebumps.

-------------

They are all in line and we're ready for the start.

They are off in the Belmont Stakes!

Not a great start for American Pharoah but he will be sent to the lead by Victor Espinoza, so he waits no longer, right to the front for American Pharoah in the race to the first turn. But he did not come out of the gate all that well.

Frosted is away running in second position, Materiality is third to the outside. A ground saving run for Mubtaahij who is right behind American Pharoah into that first turn, then Madeforlucky, Keen Ice, Tale of Verve, and the trailer is Frammento.

The opening quarter mile was 24 seconds flat. A sensible fraction for American Pharoah who leads the way on that sweeping first turn here at Belmont Park. And Materiality is kept close by John Velazquez running in second position. Mubtaahij, Frosted and Keen Ice are right there. Keen Ice is not far behind at all, he's two lengths off the lead. Then it's Madefromlucky, it's four lengths back to Tale of Verve then Frammento. A 48 and 4 half mile.

So it continues to be a moderate tempo up the backstretch here. And it is American Pharoah who leads the way by 3/4 of a length. And Materiality keeps the pressure on in 2nd. Mubtaahij is 3rd on the inside and then comes Keen Ice in 4th, Frosted is 5th. Madefromlucky ridden along to keep up with the field, he's 6th and 4 and 1/2 lengths off American Pharoah. Frammento and Tale of Verve are at the back of the pack.

So American Pharoah is halfway home in the Belmont. Three quarters went in 1:13 and 2/5th seconds. And he begins his run into the far turn. 3/4 of a length ahead of Materiality in second, and then it's Keen Ice on the outside of Mubtaahij, Frosted in traffic behind them. And then Madefromlucky on the outside.

Around the far turn and American Pharoah continues to lead the way. He's on top by 3/4 of a length. Mubtaahij is off the rail and now he is a length behind in second.

And American Pharoah kicks away. American Pharoah has opened up a 2 length lead as they come to the top of the stretch.

And Frosted has moved up into second. And they are into the stretch.

AND AMERICAN PHAROAH MAKES HIS RUN FOR GLORY AS THEY COME INTO THE FINAL FURLONG.

FROSTED IS SECOND WITH 1/8TH OF A MILE TO GO.

AMERICAN PHAROAH'S GOT A TWO LENGTH LEAD. FROSTED IS ALL OUT AT THE 16TH POLE.

AND HERE IT IS! THE 37 YEAR WAIT IS OVER!

AMERICAN PHAROAH, IS FINALLY THE ONE!!!!

AMERICAN PHAROAH HAS WON, THE TRIPLE CROWN!!!!!!

*ROAR OF THE CROWD*

dellinger63 06-07-2015 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by South Beach Luv (Post 1030627)
I transcribed the call by Larry Collmus for my wife so she could know what he said. I'll share it because just reading it again gives me goosebumps.

-------------

They are all in line and we're ready for the start.

They are off in the Belmont Stakes!

Not a great start for American Pharoah but he will be sent to the lead by Victor Espinoza, so he waits no longer, right to the front for American Pharoah in the race to the first turn. But he did not come out of the gate all that well.

Frosted is away running in second position, Materiality is third to the outside. A ground saving run for Mubtaahij who is right behind American Pharoah into that first turn, then Madeforlucky, Keen Ice, Tale of Verve, and the trailer is Frammento.

The opening quarter mile was 24 seconds flat. A sensible fraction for American Pharoah who leads the way on that sweeping first turn here at Belmont Park. And Materiality is kept close by John Velazquez running in second position. Mubtaahij, Frosted and Keen Ice are right there. Keen Ice is not far behind at all, he's two lengths off the lead. Then it's Madefromlucky, it's four lengths back to Tale of Verve then Frammento. A 48 and 4 half mile.

So it continues to be a moderate tempo up the backstretch here. And it is American Pharoah who leads the way by 3/4 of a length. And Materiality keeps the pressure on in 2nd. Mubtaahij is 3rd on the inside and then comes Keen Ice in 4th, Frosted is 5th. Madefromlucky ridden along to keep up with the field, he's 6th and 4 and 1/2 lengths off American Pharoah. Frammento and Tale of Verve are at the back of the pack.

So American Pharoah is halfway home in the Belmont. Three quarters went in 1:13 and 2/5th seconds. And he begins his run into the far turn. 3/4 of a length ahead of Materiality in second, and then it's Keen Ice on the outside of Mubtaahij, Frosted in traffic behind them. And then Madefromlucky on the outside.

Around the far turn and American Pharoah continues to lead the way. He's on top by 3/4 of a length. Mubtaahij is off the rail and now he is a length behind in second.

And American Pharoah kicks away. American Pharoah has opened up a 2 length lead as they come to the top of the stretch.

And Frosted has moved up into second. And they are into the stretch.

AND AMERICAN PHAROAH MAKES HIS RUN FOR GLORY AS THEY COME INTO THE FINAL FURLONG.

FROSTED IS SECOND WITH 1/8TH OF A MILE TO GO.

AMERICAN PHAROAH'S GOT A TWO LENGTH LEAD. FROSTED IS ALL OUT AT THE 16TH POLE.

AND HERE IT IS! THE 37 YEAR WAIT IS OVER!

AMERICAN PHAROAH, IS FINALLY THE ONE!!!!

AMERICAN PHAROAH HAS WON, THE TRIPLE CROWN!!!!!!

*ROAR OF THE CROWD*

Not wanting to take anything away from Collmus or the spectacle but man I wish Durkin had waited one more year to retire!!!

helicopter11 06-07-2015 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1030630)
Not wanting to take anything away from Collmus or the spectacle but man I wish Durkin had waited one more year to retire!!!

Collmus is as boring as they come. 37 years and thats all he could come up with? I have no clue why he gets the top gigs. Durkin was a master at his craft and he would have given a more memorable call.

Collmus reads the manual. Durkin tells the story

DonGuido 06-07-2015 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by South Beach Luv (Post 1030627)
I transcribed the call by Larry Collmus for my wife so she could know what he said. I'll share it because just reading it again gives me goosebumps.

-------------

They are all in line and we're ready for the start.

They are off in the Belmont Stakes!

Not a great start for American Pharoah but he will be sent to the lead by Victor Espinoza, so he waits no longer, right to the front for American Pharoah in the race to the first turn. But he did not come out of the gate all that well.

Frosted is away running in second position, Materiality is third to the outside. A ground saving run for Mubtaahij who is right behind American Pharoah into that first turn, then Madeforlucky, Keen Ice, Tale of Verve, and the trailer is Frammento.

The opening quarter mile was 24 seconds flat. A sensible fraction for American Pharoah who leads the way on that sweeping first turn here at Belmont Park. And Materiality is kept close by John Velazquez running in second position. Mubtaahij, Frosted and Keen Ice are right there. Keen Ice is not far behind at all, he's two lengths off the lead. Then it's Madefromlucky, it's four lengths back to Tale of Verve then Frammento. A 48 and 4 half mile.

So it continues to be a moderate tempo up the backstretch here. And it is American Pharoah who leads the way by 3/4 of a length. And Materiality keeps the pressure on in 2nd. Mubtaahij is 3rd on the inside and then comes Keen Ice in 4th, Frosted is 5th. Madefromlucky ridden along to keep up with the field, he's 6th and 4 and 1/2 lengths off American Pharoah. Frammento and Tale of Verve are at the back of the pack.

So American Pharoah is halfway home in the Belmont. Three quarters went in 1:13 and 2/5th seconds. And he begins his run into the far turn. 3/4 of a length ahead of Materiality in second, and then it's Keen Ice on the outside of Mubtaahij, Frosted in traffic behind them. And then Madefromlucky on the outside.

Around the far turn and American Pharoah continues to lead the way. He's on top by 3/4 of a length. Mubtaahij is off the rail and now he is a length behind in second.

And American Pharoah kicks away. American Pharoah has opened up a 2 length lead as they come to the top of the stretch.

And Frosted has moved up into second. And they are into the stretch.

AND AMERICAN PHAROAH MAKES HIS RUN FOR GLORY AS THEY COME INTO THE FINAL FURLONG.

FROSTED IS SECOND WITH 1/8TH OF A MILE TO GO.

AMERICAN PHAROAH'S GOT A TWO LENGTH LEAD. FROSTED IS ALL OUT AT THE 16TH POLE.

AND HERE IT IS! THE 37 YEAR WAIT IS OVER!

AMERICAN PHAROAH, IS FINALLY THE ONE!!!!

AMERICAN PHAROAH HAS WON, THE TRIPLE CROWN!!!!!!

*ROAR OF THE CROWD*

I need not ask why you did this for your wife but I salute you for it without explanation. Thanks

DonGuido 06-07-2015 11:49 PM

!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 1030634)
Collmus is as boring as they come. 37 years and thats all he could come up with? I have no clue why he gets the top gigs. Durkin was a master at his craft and he would have given a more memorable call.

Collmus reads the manual. Durkin tells the story

Yah, yah, yah . . . it's not about the call . . . it's about the horse. Perspective?!? Point of reference?!? Hello . . . MacFly!!!

Kitan 06-08-2015 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 1030634)
Collmus is as boring as they come. 37 years and thats all he could come up with? I have no clue why he gets the top gigs. Durkin was a master at his craft and he would have given a more memorable call.

Collmus reads the manual. Durkin tells the story

This is just how things have become over here. Most callers just tell it how it is, they call what they see. The best of the best aren't callers, rather commentators that describe the action to tell a story. Unfortunately, other than Durkin very few North American callers learn how to announce this way. That's just my perspective, as I've heavily followed international racing and much prefer that style. The problem with saying he shouldn't get the top gigs is who here would be better? He used to be one of my favourite callers over here, although I've been critical of him recently, but his Belmont call still sent gave me chills.

Back to the topic, congrats to the champ. What a moment for the sport. Can't take anything away from AP and have to give him credit---I know I'm going to be absolutely berated for this---but the difference between him and others that have tried and failed is that he was able to work out three perfect trips. To be honest, with the way he struggled to the line in the Derby I'm not sure he would have even won that prior to the points system. Take nothing away, but that's the reality. However, at the end of the day he won all three and did humongous things for the sport on this continent. :tro::tro::tro:

I'll still bet against him next time though...

Indian Charlie 06-08-2015 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1030659)
Can't take anything away from AP and have to give him credit---I know I'm going to be absolutely berated for this---but the difference between him and others that have tried and failed is that he was able to work out three perfect trips. To be honest, with the way he struggled to the line in the Derby I'm not sure he would have even won that prior to the points system. Take nothing away, but that's the reality. However, at the end of the day he won all three and did humongous things for the sport on this continent. :tro::tro::tro:

I'll still bet against him next time though...

I'm not going to berate you, but you are wrong.

Firstly, he's a great horse with great speed. Great speed horses have a huge advantage over others because they can make their own trip, and are much more adept at avoiding trouble.

As to the point of the other horses not getting perfect trips, off the top of my head, I would say, real quiet, silver charm, Sunday silence and funny cide. Ill agree on war emblem, chrome and charismatic, ill have another too.

I'm not sure what the point system has to do with him winning the derby, but yeah, it was his weakest showing.

Port Conway Lane 06-08-2015 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1030662)
I'm not sure what the point system has to do with him winning the derby, but yeah, it was his weakest showing.

The current points system favors 3yo form in the 1 1/8 mile preps.
In the "unrestricted earnings eligibility system" Trinniberg was eligible from his earnings in sprint stakes. (I don't know what horse this year was denied eligibility that would have quickened the pace.)
When you break down the previous derbys Spanish Chestnut and Going Wild in the 2005 derby may not have been eligible under the points system. This is the prime example of a pace meltdown that may have not taken place under the new system.

joeydb 06-08-2015 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1030462)
I'm totally buying the Christmas ornament. Because you know there will be a Christmas ornament.

Post it here when you get the ornament link. I will also get one. :)

ghartman02 06-08-2015 09:54 AM

I don't think I've been that emotional since I heard "He's moving like a tremendous machine". When Seattle Slew won it was kind of ho hum. When Affirmed won, it was exciting because of Alydar, but not take your breath away. AP's win was so great and exciting. IMHO the Derby he shouldn't have won, but he did. The Preakness was his race. The Belmont, to run in 226 in change was amazing. It'll be a moment to be cherished for quite some time.

Indian Charlie 06-08-2015 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 1030681)
The current points system favors 3yo form in the 1 1/8 mile preps.
In the "unrestricted earnings eligibility system" Trinniberg was eligible from his earnings in sprint stakes. (I don't know what horse this year was denied eligibility that would have quickened the pace.)
When you break down the previous derbys Spanish Chestnut and Going Wild in the 2005 derby may not have been eligible under the points system. This is the prime example of a pace meltdown that may have not taken place under the new system.

Oh, I understand what you mean now. Thanks.

Kasept 06-08-2015 02:01 PM

Was the most joyous and satisfying sporting event I've witnessed and that includes the '85 World Series 7th game in Kansas City, 1980 PGA Championship (Nicklaus) at Oak Hill, Habs 1993 Stanley Cup clincher at the Forum, the '88 NCAA basketball final at Kemper Arena, and more.

Being in attendance for all 3 races an added pleasure..

Creating recorded annals of it all for posterity with the principals on ATR a privilege and honor.


hondo 06-26-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1030462)
I'm totally buying the Christmas ornament. Because you know there will be a Christmas ornament.

I'll probably be right behind you with the Christmas ornament we can go together with my Yankee and Packer ornaments and the ones I have of Secretariat and War Admiral :)

GenuineRisk 06-26-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hondo (Post 1032877)
I'll probably be right behind you with the Christmas ornament we can go together with my Yankee and Packer ornaments and the ones I have of Secretariat and War Admiral :)

I started collecting the Triple Crown series, but Breyer quit making them halfway through. Guess not that much demand for an Omaha ornament. :D


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