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MaTH716 11-17-2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 724499)
What if she's lesbian?

I guess Chantal is fluffing in that case............................

Scav 11-17-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 724494)
I honestly have no idea where they board but it would be unusual to send a mare to the stallions farm this early unless they boarded their mares there. She wont be bred for 3 months from now.

I think an IC-Zenyatta foal would be interesting and surely would bug the hell out of Smoothcrotch

I might be wrong about this, but I swear I read that their foals were boarded at Mill Ridge

Indian Charlie 11-17-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 724498)
Sherriffs has it all set up for her to go to After Market.

I thought about that too. That would be somethin.

I don't think I've ever seen a Moss homebred by an expensive stallion, so who knows!

slotdirt 11-17-2010 02:54 PM

Yeah, wait a second, why aren't we considering Tiago and Giacomo here?

Cannon Shell 11-17-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 724503)
I might be wrong about this, but I swear I read that their foals were boarded at Mill Ridge

That could be right.

To the horror of her fans, I don't believe Lane's End gives public tours...

AeWingnut 11-17-2010 05:02 PM

Blame would be the best choice - it's only right he is the only horse to beat her.

http://www.claibornefarm.com/stallions/blame.shtml

Port Conway Lane 11-17-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 724565)
Blame would be the best choice - it's only right he is the only horse to beat her.

http://www.claibornefarm.com/stallions/blame.shtml

Fabulous idea. The foal will be a great prospect running on grass.
No matter what they do it's a crapshoot.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-17-2010 06:37 PM

It's too bad Caller One was gelded.

GPK 11-17-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 724427)
Mike Smith has been chosen as the teaser sire.

GPK says English Channel has a chance.

They would have to prop his little ass up on something to reach a mare of Zenyatta's size.


You know what they say about taller women though..."Toes to toes your nose is in it. Nose to nose your toes are in it."

I'm pretty sure that just concerns humans, now that I think about it.

Dahoss 11-17-2010 07:38 PM

:wf:wf

GPK 11-17-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 724625)
:wf:wf

Ya gotta be getting some action to understand it, Hossy. Or be under 5'8":D

hockey2315 11-17-2010 08:54 PM

I haven't read any comments, but she's 100% going to A.P. Indy. Her enick w/ him is an A+++. With Smart Strike it's an F.

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-17-2010 08:57 PM

i think mike smith should retire too..she is the best horse of all time why get on any other.....:zz:

AeWingnut 11-17-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 724661)
I haven't read any comments, but she's 100% going to A.P. Indy. Her enick w/ him is an A+++. With Smart Strike it's an F.


is there a website that does free enicks?

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-17-2010 09:08 PM

zippy chippy.

hockey2315 11-17-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 724664)
is there a website that does free enicks?

Not sure. Some of the farms used to allow you to look up nicks w/ their stallions (Gainesway comes to mind), but I haven't tried to do it that way in a while.

Scav 11-17-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 724678)
Not sure. Some of the farms used to allow you to look up nicks w/ their stallions (Gainesway comes to mind), but I haven't tried to do it that way in a while.

Do you think they really care about an eNick?

I don't disagree that she is going to AP Indy, but she isn't going because of an eNick.

An eNick is a sales tool, and alot of them are phony, especially with newer stallions

hockey2315 11-17-2010 10:15 PM

I don't really base anything on enicks, but I was just pointing out another factor that slants things towards A.P. I'm sure they're aware of it, but obviously they're not going to base their decision on it (at least not as a reason to go to A.P.). She's just not a good match w/ SS, and the nick shows that, so there's no reason to speculate as to who she's going to first. She was 1/9 to go to him whenever she retired as long as he was still in commission. Too bad they'd never sell that imaginary foal - can't imagine what he'd go for.

freddymo 11-17-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 724443)
I would imagine that AP Indy would be the morning line favorite but personally I wouldnt go to him. A mare her size with her lack of zip needs some speed bred into her and I dont believe that he is covering mares very well anymore.
Smart Strike is very unlikely as the foal would be 2x4 to mr P and I doubt they have the stomach to inbreed that closely to him.
I would have to think Curlin would be a longshot for personal reasons not to mention he is completely unproven.

If I was asked to choose a mating for her I would choose Medaglia D'oro . The foal would represent a complete outcross and MDO has had tremendous success when crossed with Mr P line mares, including Rachael Alexandra and Warriors Reward. He would also bring speed to the equation.

Not to mention they would sell a colt for 8 figures to Dubai

freddymo 11-17-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 724484)
You dont seriously think they would sell the foal do you?

100% they sell a colt

VOL JACK 11-17-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 724595)
It's too bad Caller One was gelded.

She does need some speed bred to her.
I think of the Lanes End Stallions War Pass may be the best fit.

I think A.P. Indy could possible be one of the worst.....Unless you want a foal that could win the 2.5 mile jump races at Saratoga.
I would breed her to Smart Strike before A.P Indy.

They will have to be careful with who they breed her to because of her size.
You don't want her to visit Rock Hard Ten or you will get a Clydesdale.

Scav 11-18-2010 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 724716)
She does need some speed bred to her.
I think of the Lanes End Stallions War Pass may be the best fit.

I think A.P. Indy could possible be one of the worst.....Unless you want a foal that could win the 2.5 mile jump races at Saratoga.
I would breed her to Smart Strike before A.P Indy.

They will have to be careful with who they breed her to because of her size.
You don't want her to visit Rock Hard Ten or you will get a Clydesdale.

lol

Indian Charlie 11-18-2010 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 724678)
Not sure. Some of the farms used to allow you to look up nicks w/ their stallions (Gainesway comes to mind), but I haven't tried to do it that way in a while.

airdrie does as well

hockey2315 11-18-2010 12:28 AM

Just realized that they have free enicks for every Lane's End stallion linked from their site.

Merlinsky 11-18-2010 04:13 AM

Bloodhorse's Stallion Register has free hypomating TrueNicks through Equineline, for the farms that pony up for the service, I assume. The smaller the operation, the less likely you can do a TrueNick hypomating. Just look up AP Indy for example, look on the upper right of the page, there's a link to click on, and you enter the mare's name. It opens in another PDF window. AP Indy gives her an A++ http://www.equineline.com/extendedco...areRef=7156465

Midnight Lute is only a B+ and the results of the crosses it lists don't seem flashy, but he is a young sire, a ginormous specimen, and obviously has speed per his status as Champion Sprinter and two-time BC Sprint winner. Probably unlikely, and not my first choice, but not a complete disaster. Biggest plus, at 17.1 hands, he doesn't have to use a stepping stool.

If anybody's interested in trying to breed an uber turf horse, go to Dynaformer and you get a cross that's led to G1Ws Riskaverse, Film Maker, Barbaro, Gozzip Girl, and White Moonstone. Clearly Barbaro got his G1s on dirt, I just noticed the turf talent trend. http://www.equineline.com/extendedco...areRef=7156465 Hey, a good inbreeding to Roberto never hurt anybody. :)

I heard AP Indy didn't exactly throw the biggest footed horse. Is that true? I don't imagine a smaller hoof does a foal out of Zenyatta any favors.

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 724417)
Smoothie is going to be like soooo jealous!

What on earth does Smoothie wanna do to AP Indy? Do we need to alert the authorities?

Bigsmc 11-18-2010 04:37 AM

Somebody wake me up when the foal is entered in a race.

Scav 11-18-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 724719)
Just realized that they have free enicks for every Lane's End stallion linked from their site.

If you go to eNicks.com, set up an account, you can type any mare into the 'Get an eNick' and it will shoot out the info.

You can also type the stallion and it will tell you if it is free or you gotta pay.

freddymo 11-18-2010 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 724733)
Somebody wake me up when the foal is entered in a race.

Late in there 3 year old year if its like mom.. So that is what 11/15/2014 in a Mdn Spl at Indiana Downs the new hot bed of TB racing. Horse's name will be what Reggatta de blanc?

Bigsmc 11-18-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 724774)
Late in there 3 year old year if its like mom.. So that is what 11/15/2014 in a Mdn Spl at Indiana Downs the new hot bed of TB racing. Horse's name will be what Reggatta de blanc?

Where or when doesn't matter, I just want the opportunity to play against this massive underlay.


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