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harryl 10-31-2010 08:27 AM

congrats
 
this was a home run for deetee you got the win and got the claim now you can do some shopping and hopefully come up with a pa bred that will supply some money for the holidays

Princess Doreen 11-01-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 713498)
Claimed by Bob Seger

Bob Seeger for Plumstead Racing. Hope that's a good new home for him.

philcski 11-02-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SuffolkGirl (Post 713925)
Isn't that just amazing? I assume you saw the Ask Queenie retirement. They are looking to send her to....Smarty Jones.

If the commonwealth of MA could move in the right direction we too could have 5k claimers running for 25k

The retards here in Kentucky don't get it either. Maybe Smarty Jones getting sent to Pennsylvania will make them open their eyes.

Duvalier 11-14-2010 07:58 AM

Redboard King entered back Tuesday for the new connections Robert J Seeger and his Plumstead Stables. Seems like Seeger can't find the winner's circle at the same rate he did prior to his suspension...odd.

Cannon Shell 11-16-2010 09:31 AM

We are going to be shopping at the Keeneland sale today for a possible replacement for RBK. Steve will keep you updated on the potential hip numbers, most sell later in the day and there are lots of scratches so the sale should move along. Our emphasis is going to be on a winter horse for Parx so no turf and most importantly must have conditions.

Duvalier 11-16-2010 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 724003)
We are going to be shopping at the Keeneland sale today for a possible replacement for RBK. Steve will keep you updated on the potential hip numbers, most sell later in the day and there are lots of scratches so the sale should move along. Our emphasis is going to be on a winter horse for Parx so no turf and most importantly must have conditions.

Cool...good luck!

Hickory Hill Hoff 11-16-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 724003)
We are going to be shopping at the Keeneland sale today for a possible replacement for RBK. Steve will keep you updated on the potential hip numbers, most sell later in the day and there are lots of scratches so the sale should move along. Our emphasis is going to be on a winter horse for Parx so no turf and most importantly must have conditions.

So, this possible purchase will replace RBK in this partnership????

Sightseek 11-16-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 724003)
We are going to be shopping at the Keeneland sale today for a possible replacement for RBK. Steve will keep you updated on the potential hip numbers, most sell later in the day and there are lots of scratches so the sale should move along. Our emphasis is going to be on a winter horse for Parx so no turf and most importantly must have conditions.

D'Tara is looking for a good home. :D

Kasept 11-16-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 724032)
So, this possible purchase will replace RBK in this partnership????

Yes.

SuffolkGirl 11-16-2010 11:44 AM

Watching the feed for R2 @ Parx - NOT impressed with the way RBK is being handled....

SuffolkGirl 11-16-2010 11:56 AM

2nd by a neck or so
 
Looks like he ran well. the 7 was closing hard. Good for RBK in his first start with his new owners

Kasept 11-16-2010 02:43 PM

We were interested in 3210, a 3yo Tiznow filly. Went for $15,000.

About 20 hips away from a 2yo colt we may try to land.

Scav 11-16-2010 03:01 PM

3267(Tawaared) just went through for 30k I think, must be broke down to be sold for that low after those last three performances

Scav 11-16-2010 03:05 PM

3275 (Unbridled Heart) in the ring now, another cripple I think, isn't this the horse that freaked first or 2nd and hasn't done a thing since?

Sightseek 11-16-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 724143)
3275 (Unbridled Heart) in the ring now, another cripple I think, isn't this the horse that freaked first or 2nd and hasn't done a thing since?

He definitely won't sell for more than the money he's burned!

AeWingnut 11-16-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SuffolkGirl (Post 724047)
Watching the feed for R2 @ Parx - NOT impressed with the way RBK is being handled....


what was the problem?

AeWingnut 11-16-2010 07:30 PM

leading sires of PA breds
 
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 724003)
We are going to be shopping at the Keeneland sale today for a possible replacement for RBK. Steve will keep you updated on the potential hip numbers, most sell later in the day and there are lots of scratches so the sale should move along. Our emphasis is going to be on a winter horse for Parx so no turf and most importantly must have conditions.


http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brevi...nings&dir=Sire

Hickory Hill Hoff 11-16-2010 07:36 PM

Find anything today @ the Keeneland sales?

Cannon Shell 11-16-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 724142)
3267(Tawaared) just went through for 30k I think, must be broke down to be sold for that low after those last three performances

chip in knee that probably needs to come out. If he wasn't by UBS I would be a little more opmistic about his return.

Cannon Shell 11-16-2010 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 724222)
Find anything today @ the Keeneland sales?

I didnt find anything that fit within our budget restrictions. A few that we were looking at went for double what I thought they were worth. Hip number 3280 was a ghostzapper 2 yo that just ran 2nd in a fairly weak mdn 15 at Hawthorne with a 41 beyer. He was ok looking, nothing special but he would have fit at Parx in a 12500 maiden claimer. Figured he was going to be between 7500-10000. Went for 32000.

jms62 11-17-2010 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 724221)

Not too sure about your list. What am I missing

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...l/pennsylvania

AeWingnut 11-17-2010 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 724314)
Not too sure about your list. What am I missing

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...l/pennsylvania

hmmm, no idea. you would think that the leading sire of PA breds for 2010 would be the same no matter who published it. I think your list is probably correct.

bigdog_14086 01-10-2011 06:20 PM

Redboard King: 1/10/11
 
Just won the 6th at Penn National

Heels1989 01-10-2011 06:21 PM

Redboard winner at Penn National this evening. Gate to wire.

Princess Doreen 01-10-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Heels1989 (Post 741491)
Redboard winner at Penn National this evening. Gate to wire.

Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-10-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741512)
Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.

I feel the same way

Scav 01-10-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741512)
Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.

At a certain point you have to ask yourself and team when is it time to get a win to stop asborbing the costly expense of owning a racehorse. Dropping to that 7.5k level was exactly the right move off his effort before the race. He is and will be a nickel claimer, good nickel claimers get claimed, it isn't like he was gonna be an allowance horse. A 10nw3 race at Penn National is probably like the 7.5nw3 at Philly. I'll grant anyone that a win is a win, but when Chuck get one claimed off him, not many go on to improve.

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-10-2011 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 741520)
At a certain point you have to ask yourself and team when is it time to get a win to stop asborbing the costly expense of owning a racehorse. Dropping to that 7.5k level was exactly the right move off his effort before the race. He is and will be a nickel claimer, good nickel claimers get claimed, it isn't like he was gonna be an allowance horse. A 10nw3 race at Penn National is probably like the 7.5nw3 at Philly. I'll grant anyone that a win is a win, but when Chuck get one claimed off him, not many go on to improve.

I don't she meant anything by her statement.......but, thanks for the input, some of us know the game ;)

phystech 01-11-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 741520)
At a certain point you have to ask yourself and team when is it time to get a win to stop asborbing the costly expense of owning a racehorse. Dropping to that 7.5k level was exactly the right move off his effort before the race. He is and will be a nickel claimer, good nickel claimers get claimed, it isn't like he was gonna be an allowance horse. A 10nw3 race at Penn National is probably like the 7.5nw3 at Philly. I'll grant anyone that a win is a win, but when Chuck get one claimed off him, not many go on to improve.

Couldn't agree more with your message and I'm glad you wrote it.

And, if I may add - even after a horse gets claimed from a partnership/trainer, it's ok for that horse to go on and do well for his/her new owners!!! As the former owner, I've never been embarrassed if the horse makes some money and wins a few races for the new owner. It's OK!!

Turning over horses can be profitable and no partnership or owner can survive by constantly losing money.....

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-11-2011 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by phystech (Post 741619)
Couldn't agree more with your message and I'm glad you wrote it.

And, if I may add - even after a horse gets claimed from a partnership/trainer, it's ok for that horse to go on and do well for his/her new owners!!! As the former owner, I've never been embarrassed if the horse makes some money and wins a few races for the new owner. It's OK!!

Turning over horses can be profitable and no partnership or owner can survive by constantly losing money.....

Again, I don't think her post meant anything wrong......we understand that part of the game :)

Princess Doreen 01-11-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 741660)
Again, I don't think her post meant anything wrong......we understand that part of the game :)

Somebody's saying I'm wrong? LOL! Get on line. I understand the game - just disappointed he's no longer in the partnership even if he's just a "nickel claimer". He's running, he's sound, he's making some money. Continued good journeys for him. Looking forward to hearing about a replacement in the partnership.

Scav 01-11-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 741660)
Again, I don't think her post meant anything wrong......we understand that part of the game :)

You understand the claiming part of the game, or all the costs that go into the game?

Cannon Shell 01-11-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741512)
Good for him. I thought he was the best horse in the 4 horse partnership. Too bad he's still not in the partnership, but I wish him well wherever he is and hope he continues his winning ways.

Wouldn't this be classified as a redboard?

Cannon Shell 01-11-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741662)
He's running, he's sound, he's making some money. Continued good journeys for him. Looking forward to hearing about a replacement in the partnership.

I always wonder how people know this?

MaTH716 01-11-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 741719)
I always wonder how people know this?

Some people just know everything.

Fortunately for me I married one of them.

:zz:

herkhorse 01-11-2011 03:19 PM

Hey, get in line people!!

Princess Doreen 01-11-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 741719)
I always wonder how people know this?

He's run at least 10 times since April and no report of injuries or problems were reported to the partnership.

Cannon Shell 01-11-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741773)
He's run at least 10 times since April and no report of injuries or problems were reported to the partnership.

While your reasoning may seem valid, you really don't know if he is sound or not. Assumptions like this are one of the reasons why this business is so misunderstood.

The horse was given a chance to prove that he was better than a cheap, non-winners type of horse. He didn't show that he was and we ran him in a spot where we thought we had the best chance of winning. The fact that someone claimed him (there was only 1 claim) is simply the risk you take when you enter claiming races. We replaced him with another horse who got claimed on the raise. You win some, you lose some. Hindsight in terms of claiming or not claiming horses is pointless.

Princess Doreen 01-11-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 741779)
While your reasoning may seem valid, you really don't know if he is sound or not. Assumptions like this are one of the reasons why this business is so misunderstood.

The horse was given a chance to prove that he was better than a cheap, non-winners type of horse. He didn't show that he was and we ran him in a spot where we thought we had the best chance of winning. The fact that someone claimed him (there was only 1 claim) is simply the risk you take when you enter claiming races. We replaced him with another horse who got claimed on the raise. You win some, you lose some. Hindsight in terms of claiming or not claiming horses is pointless.

Chuck, I'm not questioning your putting him in a claiming race. I fully realize that's where he had to have been placed. I'm just regretting that he got claimed - that's all. Out of 4 horses in the partnership, we're down to one - Lloydobler. He has yet to break his maiden. The other two horses - Missus Mayflower and Run Burgandy didn't work out - they're off, hopefully, to green pastures elsewhere. So, of the 4 horses, Redboard King has done the best. That's all I'm saying. And, I truly hope the new owners/trainers are not racing an unsound horse if that's what he is.

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-11-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 741697)
You understand the claiming part of the game, or all the costs that go into the game?

Explain it to me........:p yes, a matter a fact I do!


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