Wraps come on....2 yr layoff ensues.

Correct.

Go For Gin was 2nd in that Wood that year ... He took the KY Derby next out. First Derby I ever attended.

A layoff in '02 seems like a standard spacing between races for stakes horses these days :zz:

And my biggest Derby score.

It was yet another against the bias trip in a row for Go for Gin who chased Holy Bull on a big inside speedway in the Florida Derby and then same deal versus Irgun in that Wood.

Obviously Irgun, but I didn't remember him in the Gotham.

Last one ....

One of the best NY Bred 2yo Turfers ever .... Name him ...

Wow ... I forgot to block his name ... I'm sharp as a tack.

Him I would have gotten anyway.

He was a freak.

I give PG85 a 30% chance to still get it wrong.

Too easy, even without the free pass.

That horse is pretty much synonymous with 'great turf nybreds'.

There is a cool built in tool in Windows 7 that makes posting these trivia challenges super simple.

Incurable Optimist could have been scary good. I think he blew a suspensory.

Yep. Had I not known what I was watching, I'd have guessed grade 1 older male when he was two.

No race videos of him on YouTube ... only this super creepy stallion tribute video ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ASA1...eature=related

Here's another one:
What stakes-winning horse named after a famous movie character did Incurable Optimist sire?

Optimer?

Bingo!

Anyone name this disappeared closely related horse to Indian Charlie?

He was actually a literary character....unless you only know Laurence Olivier from the Polaroid commercials.

Obviously it is a character from both the novel and the movie, but I have to believe that far more people know the character through the movie than the book. The movie is widely considered one of the greatest movies of all time. Puzo's novel is not considered one of the greatest pieces of literature, nor should it be.
So if, for some reason, I had to pick one or the other, I would call Corleone a movie character. Huck Finn, on the other hand, I would call a literary character, despite the fact that there have been several movies made featuring the character.

Giant Moon?

Signed, PG85

Best horse ever to lose twice at Santa Fe Downs...




Name him.

Hint... he later won a couple very big races and sired a very good sprinter.

i cant see the pics but its gotta be mine that bird!

Edit - guess not.. dont expect MTB to be siring anything.

real quiet

Correct.

He came within a nose of taking the triple crown ... beating Victory Gallop in the Derby and Preakness before losing the Belmont to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIRP4UbrCg8

He's also the sire of two time Breeders Cup Sprint champion Midnight Lute.

Believe it or not ... this turf hater became a good horse ...



Name him.

Charismatic.

NT

The first bet I ever cashed in my life.

Yep ....

his next start was in a maiden claiming race.

He eventually almost won the triple crown.

Lifetime past performances for Kentucky Derby winners from 1993 to 2003 can be found at this link ...

http://www.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby/...rbywinners.pdf

Nice link Doug.

Check out the horse who beat Grindstone in his 3rd start.

That was Tiznow's full brother Budroyale.

He was a gelding that was all over the friggen map with his form.

Jay Robbins also trained him at first ... but he debuted him in like a Maiden Claiming race - I think for a 32K tag. And he got claimed from Robbins in his debut.

The horse went from claimer to promising 3-year-old Derby contender - to claimer - to stakes horse - to claimer again - to VERY good stakes horse running 2nd in the Breeders Cup Classic.

Budroyale chart? I forgot about him....

I have a few cuts of his form later on in his career ... but not on this computer. No luck with that one.

Getting down to the nitty gritty - but here's a lifetime form of a good horse.

Lasix moved him way up - or at least brought him back to life ... but he only ran on it once ...




Name him.

Unbridled s Song

chocolate candy?

Doug, your MAIN MAN HAS THIS ONE DOWN PAT.....

It is 100% Dakota Dunes.

Correct.

Final two races were with Nick Zito.

The 'r' for the bar show I thought would give it away ... but Mike Smith's biggest fan would have got that one even if I blocked that.