OK, I'm ready with my top five and I feel pretty confident here so don't give me any sh*t.

I've been looking over all the information and all the posts on Derby Trail, I've watched all the races and my top five are IN ORDER:
















12,
7,
8,
17,

and.......
11

Now, I don't want anyone coming back saying they liked these horses first.
So there!

Spyder

What kind of jockey change would get you on/off a horse?

I did, it was the perfect prize. Mr. Steve is right. The history of a race is a thing that is often overlooked.

It wouldn't get me on or off a horse per se, but it may influence where i put the horse on my list. As an example i would be willing to bump up a horse who has a local rider, who knows the track. I would also downgrade a horse a horse who is being ridden for the first time by that jockey. Realistically, nothing will change my top 3, but the exotic filler horses are what usually make the payoff and i think thats where the small things matter.

glad you liked it!

cowboy cal
court vision
war pass
.... court vision is so sneaky good, i dont see how ppl dont see it, feel it, and love it

I can think of a couple that would get me off a horse

chuckles... who ? name, names !!!!!

Joy Scott

you never answered my question about you and a derby horse.... i was being serious, i dont go that far back, and am curious.

:rolleyes:

Who will be riding Colonel John, Gomez or Nakatani?

lol
i like a horse at tampa tomorrow
turf race, sire is forbidden apple, forgot what race though.... post 2, and like 8-1

gomez is riding court vision
nak is riding colonel john...its always been his mount

Supposedly there are rumors that Nakatani is off Col. John and Gomez is on. Not sure there's much to the story, though. . .

Story is on this page: http://www.thedowneyprofile.com/#Racing

that has to be a rumor...

right ?
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Sounds like it. . .

I don't think it is as clear cut as you seem to think.

why not ?

harty did say it was c nak's mount and he was not going to lose it to injury

Because I really don't think Gomez is going to settle for Court Vision.

I really have no strong Derby opinions as of now, but if Prado decides to go with Tale of Ekati over Monba then I am leaning towards ToE.

well he might not,

but what does that have to do with the colonel ?

In retrospect if things were always like this I guess I may have trained a few Derby prospects. The fact that they were turf horses or fillies doesnt seem to matter anymore.

i am asking serious questions, trying to get some info on you. please.... whos your best horse ever... i remember battle won.... i won money on him a few times.... did you have anyone better ?

The most talented horse I had was Strength and Honor but he was always compromised by injuries and ailments. Battle Won was probably the most accomplished. Nothing to Lose was the best turf horse I had even though I only had him for his maiden win. He would have been a phony polytrack Derby contender this year for sure.

THANK YOU

Seriously man, describing what you are going to wager on a race where nobody even knows for sure who is going to be in the race is just stupid. There really isn't another word for it. You later say that you can't believe the grief you take on here, but if you post more stupid stuff than anyone else....yeah, you have to expect some grief.
If I were you I would wait to see who is in the race, and what post positions they draw before even trying to figure it out. You can't possibly know what the pace scenario is going to look like before that time, so figuring out what wagers to make in a race with an unknown pace scenario is....well....stupid.

It also might be nice to see how the horses work over the CD track (especially those that have no dirt form), or to watch the horses in the Lexington, or to see how the odds end up. You know, all of the things that handicappers do when they handicap ANY race.

While I would usually agree, let's be a realistic -- a lock is a lock is a stone cold lock. So why wait?