Its documented.

The curse has been put upon my horse. Thanks a lot! :mad:

weather.com says the rain will stop around 10am in NY today. With temps in the 50s and a breeze, it should dry out the track by the time the Wood is run.

--Dunbar

Precisely. Kona Gold was bred to win the Belmont, but he was best sprinting. Genetics can be such a funny thing at times - a recessive chestnut shows up after 2 or 3 generations of dominant bays and browns (a Secretariat, for instance); a genuine stayer shows up from a family of sprinter/milers because he takes after dad (Round Table, Damascus).

I liken it to a slot machine with dozens of wheels - you can have lots of stamina, or early maturity, or speed, or good lungs, or good legs on an individual wheel to improve the odds, but there is always the chance that they won't come up for this particular animal.

I like Court Vision in this race, albeit the price will stink. His entrymate will be the one who will beat War Pass, a horse I wont be using at all. Its a tough 4 race sequence and I have to single in at least one race to make this worthwhile. To me Court Vision the most logical single.
War Pass hasnt shown he can rate, and he will have to rate behind Inner Light to win this. At a suspected price of even money, no thanks!

Just read that War Pass had an eventful flight and had to have stiches put in his chin. Another excuse?

I say toss him. Of course - everyone already has.

and thanks for mushing my horse jcs...

tossing Court Vision now

Timmy? :eek:

New York, New York
Partly sunny. Cool.
54°
Feels Like 46°


Wind Speed: 9 mph
Wind Direction: Northwest
Humidity: 82%
Visibility: 5.00 mi
Barometer: 29.88 in
Dew Point: 48°

Nice outside now, should be close to 60 today at the Big A

I don't remember Zito making any excuses for War Pass's performance the last time.

What? You didnt think I was capable of liking a horse trained by Bill Mott?

A Gander siting! Welcome back.

Just watched a random amount of replays from Aqueduct since they moved to the outer track, it looks to be favoring speed, horses in the 3 path certainly seem to be getting the best of it.

NYRA just announced that currently the track is listed as MUDDY...no rain in the forecast but that is not great news.

I'll have to look out for Jeanine Edwards and those great blue eyes now!

Pretty much how he won previous 4 races...didn't look very comfortable in the slop/fog last time....similar situation today?

The track has to be fairer than when it was on the inner, War Pass looks like he will get an uncontested lead unless someone decides to play the sacrificial lamb, I can't take on War Pass nor am I going to back him. I'll give him the respect that he will bounce back but there are enough questions in my mind of what exactly did happen to him last time to steer clear of this race.

I would imagine Inner Light is entered in the race for that very reason.

Exactly J.

With CC Lopez aboard....who rides for Mott like...never.

He will be told to do what he does best and hope to run WP into the ground.

Weather is gorgeous right now, and it didn't rain all that much yesterday. Should be a fast track.

When CC sends, he'll be quick enough for 3/4's. He may not make the lead, but he'll ensure War Pass has to go fast.

Inner Light makes the lead in here. No doubt about it. When does CC Lopez ever miss breaks? I must not be watching enough races because I never see him miss breaks.

The intentions of Inner Light have been mentioned, and I suppose I do not disagree. But let's be honest in that he was 2 1/2 lengths off the 22 2/5 quarter at Gulfstream and dropped another two lengths farther back to the 44-flat half. Three starts in a row he's been taken off the pace.

So today, they're asking that he not only out-breaks Was Pass, but then steps on it and a reach a speed he hasn't truly seen early in a race since December. If War Pass is good and ready, he'll throw down a sub-23 quarter and Inner Light may never even see the lead. If Cornelio is smart, he'll do exactly what Gomez did not do with Indian Blessing, and just run out and do their thing.

This is the type of prep we like, provided the track is fair. We'll know where many of these horses stand in relation to the others after today. If Inner Light does manage to hook War Pass, and they both cook themselves, any horse not capable of closing with that scenario is an auto-toss in the Derby. Or, we'll learn whether or not War Pass is back to his old self.

J Be K
War Pass over Court Vision

regardless of tactics, I don't anticiapate War Pass in the winners circle today.
I like Texas Wildcatter to run a big one.

I'm looking at my post and I don't see where I claimed who made what excuses anywhere in it

I think Zito said, "beats the shot out of me" or maybe it wasn't what he said
just telling you the horse had a bad flight. stitches in his chin.
let War Pass wire the field. I don't give a rats

sorry ArlJim78, I singled him
horse has got no chance.
the $2 weight is on

Sorry, must have misread this:

"Just read that War Pass had an eventful flight and had to have stiches put in his chin. Another excuse?"

I just assumed you were saying they had made excuses for his last race. I just didn't remember them doing that ...

Am I the only one going with First Commandment?

50-1 at the moment. The track is now "Fast".

War Pass is 4-5, this, after the last debacle

I'd sure as hell hate to see War Pass in the Derby. The Met Mile would be where I'd go. I'd actually hate to see any of the horses from this race in the Derby.

I hate to see the derby.

i'm just Not overly impressed by any of these 3y/o's. :(

The Excelsior definitely should be downgraded, Take an decent meet and you can find classified allowances tougher than today's Excelsior.

As for War Pass, I thought he ran a terrific race. I hated him going into the race but to battle thru that insane pace and barely get beat is impressive.....reminiscent of Silver Charm in the 1997 Santa Anita Derby. No excuse at all for Court Vision who had the pace to run at and still couldn't get it done.

How about that selection of Gomez to ride court vision over colonial john today??? I know that this came up earlier about dennis of cork and jockey move and some on here said that they could care less about what a jockey thinks and i guess this was a good example.

Its not the jockey's decision; it's the agents. As for Albarado, not riding Dennis of Cork didn't hurt him at all.....just that the filly he chose to ride never bothered showing up.

Really? the jockey's agent made that call for him? cant the jockey say no i'll pass? I mean did he do it b/c it was an ieah horse? Now what happens does cnak keep the mount? I would think and hope so. If i was the trainer if gomez comes back hat in hand id tell him to go to hell, when the big money was on the line he bailed on me.

The thought that jockeys ride blindly based upon their agents decision is not true... they most certainly have input and help make decisions.

Good call on Inner Light guys. I was surprised Cornelio didn't try to take a hold of War Pass early on or perhaps War Pass is not rateable and he had no choice. I thought he ran very well considering the way race shaped up for him. Unfortunately for War Pass he is looking very one dimensional at this stage in his career, all his best races have been around one turn if you throw out the slop effort in the BC, it will be interesting if he continues onto the Derby. He does look to have a very promising career as a miler.

Gomez rides alot for Winstar.....maybe he ends up on Colonel anyway?

Colonel John has always been CNaks' mount. He was out with a broken collar bone for the last race.