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Coast Guard
 

In a shocker.......

I just noticed that Coast Guard replaced Gyrder with Joe Tala-blows ( everybodys super star last year) and Polonious dropped Jon Court for Victor Espinoza.

When Derby fever sets in you find out who your friends really are.

I see no reason Bob Black Jack cant wire this group. Nobody is in his league in the early speed dept and he knows no other way of running. This horse is a lot better than most give credit. I like his chances in here today and will stand against both favorites (Col John & Malo).

The honest pace could hurt actually hurt El Gato Malo. Sometimes a horse with big distance limitations can get 9 furlongs with a slow pace, but when they have to cruise a little faster, they feel the distance. The public will tend to say that a pace would be to his advantage because of his running style. Small edge, and a dangerous one to back.

The Turf miler Yankee Bravo is kind of lukewarm here.

Polonious is interesting. He may have to rate just off the lead today. Seems to have a chance, and is the best of the pace.

Colonel John is the class here, but even he isn't untouchable. Still has to be the most likely winner. For the sake of the crop John needs to win with a strong effort. Polonious is a turf horse and El Gato shouldn't go more than 7furlongs on the dirt. John is the only thing still worth sending to the Derby.

Meetingwithdestiny could possibly plod into something minor.

I dont see how one can separate Col. John and El Gato right now, especially based on their last race. What indicates at this point that Col. John is superior to El Gato Malo?

El Gato Malo has the lack of stamina in his pedigree, most importantly in his female family. The pace of the race and the synthetic surface were the only reasons that El Gato Malo was able to run a quality 9 furlongs in a competitive graded race.

My hunch is that the slow pace in the last race was relatively important. Maybe it wasn't. Maybe El Gato Malo can run in a faster paced 9 furlong synthetic race and not flatten out. It is a tough subjective call. I am not keying against him, only observing.

El Gato Malo
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Thinking the same thing. The works surely give some confidence he'll make the surface switch at a nice price.

I agree his pedigree suggests (to you & me anyway) that the distance should be a problem.

Playing against El Gato Malo.

I'm also with Polonius, expecting him to be on the lead after the demise of Bob Black Jack, who seems to have proven class limitations. So much for the 10-1 odds, as several here are on him

I'm thinkin' same thing... Keepin' my fingers crossed. "Mamma needs a new pair of shoes" :D

I find it had to believe that Yankee Bravo was wobbling like a short horse going to the wire. You cant trust anything coming off the synthetic track at Santa Anita and going to the Kentucky Derby.

dang....Coast Guard almost pulled it off... :(

Well now i have a problem b/c colonel john could not have looked more impressive and although he looks big(is he?) it seems like he has a pretty good ability to get through traffic. While im not thrilled w the trainer the horse did look good. Now what the heck am i gonna do with him on KD day??I have him in the 1st pool of futrue bet so i guess it would be dumb to bet him to win right??

Everybody toss Colonel John. He's my Derby horse and I want good odds on him on May 3rd. :D

No thats Bob Black Jack almost pulled it off and with the earning from his 2ond place finish he's in the Derby.

For the record...the trainer said they wanted Court to re-ride, but he was comitted on another horse and they had no choice but to seek someone else (Victor). Court's horse got hurt and he was available, but they were comitted to Victor.

Colonel John won this one powerfully like a Derby contender should ... Juxtapose this race's ending with the wobbling finale to the Wood ...
I am glad, however that War Pass erased the musings that he was War Emblem revisited, as he was pressed on the lead, and pressed at the end and showed heart .... I do not see him getting an extra furlong comfortably, but he earned respect from me and almost continued his winning ways ...
Colonel John as all the commentators mentioned, galloped out strongly after that finish ...

And Harty and Nakatani both said the poly to dirt angle does not apply. They are confident the switch is a non factor.

Yeah...

We'll see.

I heard that in the telecast ... And I felt their confidence---the fastest and most impressive Derby prep at the distance so far ...

Anyone else catch where Donna Brothers held up a rather large chunk of tire from the track surface. Yikes:eek:

You think?!

Yeah, bubba, I do ...

Im pretty new but i agree to me SA derby was the best prep race ive seen so far. They were saying on hrtv that colonel john came home in 35 seconds which seems pretty quick.right?what do i know but john and pyro "looked" the best 2 me so far.

I actually prefer Colonel John to Big Brown in the Derby but Big Brown was by far the most impressive so far. . .


















Bubba

You are a sport ...
I just read elsewhere that the Wood was the second slowest in history---effing dismal ...
Pity that Zenyatta is not three--she certainly would not be a toss ...
The two mentioned above have their unique attractiveness, as does Pyro, especially if he is dominant next out ...
I am looking for something that will stay on--the only proven stayer of the lot is the much maligned Tomcito, which I remain mildly interested in for at least a clunk up position ...

off Poly
 

Zenyatta and Tiago seemed to do just fine first start off poly today, so did Heatseeker and Circular Quay at the Fair Grounds Poly did pretty well.

again, why is everyone speaking of Tiago like he's never run on dirt before!! lol. He won the SA Derby on dirt and finished 3rd by 5 lengths to Curlin and Rags in the Belmont. What question mark was there for him? At worst he was going to run maybe the same as on synthetic.

All's I know is that Colonel John was very impressive and pedigree-wise, the horse should run any distance that races are carded. Definitely had some traffic trouble, but no excuses and got it done. Not sure what happened with El Gato Malo.

I just don't think he's good enough. His 99 Beyer was earned with a dream setup, and today he moved early and wide, but that was it, nothing else left.

Colonel John meanwhile waited to make his move, then came out and just wore down the pacemakers. He was the only horse to close in the race. Not bad. Does he handle the dirt? That is the next question.

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Si, Tiznow /xTurkoman

I think Colonel John has a tricky pedigree to figure out how he'll like the surface switch. Tiznow/Turkoman is a little turfy.

Not really from the turf perspective, wasn't Point Given out of a Turkoman mare?

Tiznow hasn been an ok turf sire, nothing to write home about, his horses have really taken to the synethics though.

Watch Harty go and work this horse like 57.2 right before the Derby, like 3 days before.....

Girls like you i like.

What?? That's the weirdest take I've seen. Tiznow and Turkoman were both dirt horses and nothing else. Several Turkomans ended up on turf because there weren't dirt races long enough for them to show their best. I haven't seen a major winner by Tiznow on turf - Folklore, Tiz Wonderful, Slew Tizzy's, Bear Now, all dirt SWs.

Hello lostcode,

Just wondering if you think Fairgrounds is polytrack because it isn't

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I meant to say that Circular Quay won at the Fairgrounds when he got off Poly. What I'm seeing is that these horses are improving off the poly. Trainers like Mark Casse and John Shirreefs have been saying for the past 2 or three months that the poly horses are going to be fitter. Now again it's horse racing, not every horse is going to improve or like both surfaces. That's why we watch the races.....and bet on them.