I hear with the chance of rain this weekend they are off the turf!

Oh boy..





..there goes another wasted t-shirt run.

naaaaah...she put me on ignore a long time ago...

Boy ...she excells at that. Really good.





Seriously...did a Bill Dallas ever post here?

Not that I recall...but I really don't know for sure

Thanks...it ain't gonna work then.

north?

I'm really hoping for the same thing, but I'm being negative at the moment. It's been raining here for 6 days straight. A big front came through last Friday and Saturday, and looks to be the same one that will hit Jersey this weekend. :(

Boy I hope I'm dead wrong!!!:D

Although the chalk looks dominant in the juvenile F,I think a wet track would most help Irish Smoke.To me,Guilded Time horses like it,and Smoke Glackens as well.I'm no expert on the horse.I don't know the knock on her(distance question maybe,) but seems like has better chance getting 2 turns if it's wet.

Looks like its turning the whole show to a bust and a non betting event for me.

Has this ever happened before in the breeders cup? Anyone?

Spyder

are you seriously believing this?

So a week of rain and they still run?

they will still run if they had a month of rain. they will probably use the rail much more liberally however

So no amount of rain makes running multi $1,000,000+++ horses risky? I think there's a point when it becomes questionable and a point when its off. These aren't machines that can be replaced and jockey's will have a say if it's safe.

Spyder

Taking races off the grass is more about protecting the grass than the horses. Euro's run every day on surfaces that our candy-ass jocks and trainers would refuse to use. The horses can handle it.
With a 4 daym meet and no racing til May, there is no reason to "protect the course."

this is correct, its about protecting the course. they'll run these turf races come hell or high water. (rimshot)

This just in!! They're off the turf!!!!!

To clarify, they are off the turf today and possibly for the ungraded stakes, but there is no way they take million dollar G1 races off the turf on Saturday. From what I read, they are keeping the rail good for the big ones.

It is sort of funny that the top Europeans are not coming over because they would chew up and spit out the American horses on a soft turf. In America they scratch on soft turf but in Europe they run on it all the time. Remember with the exception of one track they can't take the races off the turf to run on dirt. There is no dirt.

Do we?

Is is a common misconception in America that the european horses want soft turf. That isn't the case at all. Most of our good horses would prefer good to firm ground.

I'm very concerned about this soft turf in Monmouth. If it really is as soft as some of you have said, you can forget about seeing Dylan Thomas. Red Rocks wouldn't want it too soft, either, but will probably take his chance.

At this rate, the John Deere turf is going to be an awful race.

Horses that will have benefited through the rain that has fallen are Achill Island (if it's soft he could take all the beating) and Passage Of Time, she wouldn't want it really soft but she enjoys cut in the ground.

All My Loving likes it soft, but i don't see her having much of a chance. Same goes for Timarwa.

Excellent Art has won on ground ranging from Good to Firm and Heavy, so there will be no ground concerns with him.

Jeremy acts on most ground, but i think he is best on Good ground. he doesn't like it firm or really soft.