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Mortimer 06-09-2007 06:10 PM

I don't see any misspellings.





Let's hear it Uncly Trust.

Downthestretch55 06-09-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i told kelly that Rags reminded me of genuine risk, big pretty chestnut with that blazed face. man, a tough gal. she was not going to lose.

Danzig,
Not to hijack this thread, but I really have a "thing" for big chestnut fillies with a big white blaze on their face.
Today I got back from the farm where we're training my 2yo filly, Shot o' Bourbon. She's accepted tack, being ponied, bath, lunge, and next week, rider up.
Oh...I should tell you who she could be a sister to, but you wouldn't believe me.
Gosh, I love those fillies.
DTS

Spendabuck85 06-09-2007 06:14 PM

So who rides RTR in her next race? Johnnie V or Gomez

Danzig 06-09-2007 06:18 PM

you know gomez has to be sick! oh man, he wanted on her bad. i don't know who gets her next--garrett won with her four times.

rock paper scissors--him and johnny!

Pedigree Ann 06-09-2007 06:18 PM

Please note - thus far, it has been one filly wins the Belmont per century, and we have just seen the 21st Century's.

Danzig 06-09-2007 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
Well now what did I misspell?

retch is puke
i think you mean wretch.

Bernardini 06-09-2007 06:19 PM

Hail to the Queen !!!
 
my heart is still beatin outta control !! spectacular !! what a fantastic race.

Danzig 06-09-2007 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Please note - thus far, it has been one filly wins the Belmont per century, and we have just seen the 21st Century's.

ap indy is going to repeat as top sire. he sure deserves it.

match race, rags vs jazil.




she'd kick big bro's butt!

deltagulf 06-09-2007 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Fillies winning Belmont, Pletcher shows emotion, Albarado riding well, Seattle picking winners....

yea head to the shelter.

but what a race. congrats to all!!

Rileyoriley 06-09-2007 06:24 PM

Now Indy has 2 classic winners!!! YAY INDY!!!!!:D

Merlinsky 06-09-2007 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Danzig,
Not to hijack this thread, but I really have a "thing" for big chestnut fillies with a big white blaze on their face.
Today I got back from the farm where we're training my 2yo filly, Shot o' Bourbon. She's accepted tack, being ponied, bath, lunge, and next week, rider up.
Oh...I should tell you who she could be a sister to, but you wouldn't believe me.
Gosh, I love those fillies.
DTS

:confused: Could be? Are her parents trying not to claim her or something?

ArlJim78 06-09-2007 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
wow wow wow.

so great...couldn't put a price on her mother now.

really nice to see some honest emotion for TAP too....

I didn't realize what this meant until I just heard them mention it on TVG.
The same dam produced back to back Belmont winners. holy moly.

Better Than Honour, how valuable must she be?

somerfrost 06-09-2007 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I didn't realize what this meant until I just heard them mention it on TVG.
The same dam produced back to back Belmont winners. holy moly.

Better Than Honour, how valuable must she be?

She is VERY valuable, while Jazil was pretty much a "one hit wonder" this filly appears to have limitless potential, I would certainly breed her back to AP Indy though!

Antitrust32 06-09-2007 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
retch is puke
i think you mean wretch.


Yes, A+ for you.

Danzig 06-09-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
She is VERY valuable, while Jazil was pretty much a "one hit wonder" this filly appears to have limitless potential, I would certainly breed her back to AP Indy though!

or an ap indy offspring....they've gone to mineshaft, i think i'd try bernardini.

wonder what the odds are that street sense and rags meet someday in the shed?

The Indomitable DrugS 06-09-2007 06:41 PM

I hope people don't get too carried away and talk about her like she's an all-time great filly...and certainly this was no all-time great training job.

Rags to Riches simply belonged in this race....last out, she ran an identical speed figure to what older male Wanderin Boy earned---while over the same track, on the same day, with the more difficult trip of the two. Which assured she'd be in this race--regardless of whoelse did or didn't show.

From a pedigree standpoint, she projected for major improvement on the three furlong stretchout in distance....as she's by the #1 dirt racing distance sire in the game---and out of tremendously stamina laden female family.

She owned a gigantic edge in pedigree over Curlin for the distance---and, getting five pounds in weight over 12 furlongs didn't hurt either.

Don't get me wrong---she certainly enhanced her standing with her performance today...but not as much as people seem to be acting. I've liked her a lot all along---but I just hope people don't get carried away.

Antitrust32 06-09-2007 06:43 PM

boo! to you drugS

10 pnt move up 06-09-2007 06:44 PM

My take is at 10f she does not beat street sense or curlin?

Cannon Shell 06-09-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
or an ap indy offspring....they've gone to mineshaft, i think i'd try bernardini.

I'm pretty sure he wont be on the list...

Antitrust32 06-09-2007 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'm pretty sure he wont be on the list...

A very imbred A.P Indy. Three eyes or missing a foot?

Edit: Nevermind, they were talking about Better Than Honor, not rags.

Danzig 06-09-2007 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'm pretty sure he wont be on the list...

you're probably right!

but you guys do know i was talking about better than honour, not rags to riches....

Cannon Shell 06-09-2007 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I hope people don't get too carried away and talk about her like she's an all-time great filly...and certainly this was no all-time great training job.

Rags to Riches simply belonged in this race....last out, she ran an identical speed figure to what older male Wanderin Boy earned---while over the same track, on the same day, with the more difficult trip of the two. Which assured she'd be in this race--regardless of whoelse did or didn't show.

From a pedigree standpoint, she projected for major improvement on the three furlong stretchout in distance....as she's by the #1 dirt racing distance sire in the game---and out of tremendously stamina laden female family.

She owned a gigantic edge in pedigree over Curlin for the distance---and, getting five pounds in weight over 12 furlongs didn't hurt either.

Don't get me wrong---she certainly enhanced her standing with her performance today...but not as much as people seem to be acting. I've liked her a lot all along---but I just hope people don't get carried away.

She is very good...and he did a good job of training her considering she ran about 1 5/8ths

somerfrost 06-09-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I hope people don't get too carried away and talk about her like she's an all-time great filly...and certainly this was no all-time great training job.

Rags to Riches simply belonged in this race....last out, she ran an identical speed figure to what older male Wanderin Boy earned---while over the same track, on the same day, with the more difficult trip of the two. Which assured she'd be in this race--regardless of whoelse did or didn't show.

From a pedigree standpoint, she projected for major improvement on the three furlong stretchout in distance....as she's by the #1 dirt racing distance sire in the game---and out of tremendously stamina laden female family.

She owned a gigantic edge in pedigree over Curlin for the distance---and, getting five pounds in weight over 12 furlongs didn't hurt either.

Don't get me wrong---she certainly enhanced her standing with her performance today...but not as much as people seem to be acting. I've liked her a lot all along---but I just hope people don't get carried away.


She's the first filly in history to win the Belmont at 12 furlongs and she beat a freak in Curlin...I don't think that one can help but think that she may join the best....she needs to beat the boys again and beat older horses, if she does that...she breaks into the short list. I see her as sorta like Lady's Secret (different style to a degree but she reminds me of her grit)...the top two fillies ever to race imo are Kincsem and Ruffian, not near those yet but certainly could be as good as any others!

Mortimer 06-09-2007 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
retch is puke
i think you mean wretch.

You have a way with words.


I said it the way I meant it which is the way I spelled it....and it's not what you say it means.

Mortimer 06-09-2007 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Yes, A+ for you.

No.


But have it your way.

Dunbar 06-09-2007 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
you know gomez has to be sick! oh man, he wanted on her bad. i don't know who gets her next--garrett won with her four times.

rock paper scissors--him and johnny!

JV showed a lot of class in the ABC interview. Gave Gomez credit for telling him not to abuse R2R (cause she always gives 110% anyway). Then JV said part of the victory was Gomez's because of his earlier rides on R2R.

Pretty generous, IMO.

--Dunbar

10 pnt move up 06-09-2007 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
She's the first filly in history to win the Belmont at 12 furlongs and she beat a freak in Curlin...I don't think that one can help but think that she may join the best....she needs to beat the boys again and beat older horses, if she does that...she breaks into the short list. I see her as sorta like Lady's Secret (different style to a degree but she reminds me of her grit)...the top two fillies ever to race imo are Kincsem and Ruffian, not near those yet but certainly could be as good as any others!

She needs to run a bit faster, the best fillys run around 110 beyers, she needs to get there, but she could if you are looking at historical contest. I think Inside Information ran a 119.

Danzig 06-09-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
No.


But have it your way.

you're just mad cause i got an a, and you didn't. :p

Cannon Shell 06-09-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
She's the first filly in history to win the Belmont at 12 furlongs and she beat a freak in Curlin...

I believe that Curlins status as a freak is a little bit cloudy

Antitrust32 06-09-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
No.


But have it your way.



OOOOOOOOOO





you are learning very nicely!

Mortimer 06-09-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
OOOOOOOOOO





you are learning very nicely!



Wretch.

Mortimer 06-09-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
you're just mad cause i got an a, and you didn't. :p




Concubine.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-09-2007 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
She is very good...and he did a good job of training her considering she ran about 1 5/8ths

I'll have to study the race, and watch it a few more times---but, Belmont Park is different from other places, and I'm not so sure she didn't "out-trip" Curlin.

Cannon Shell 06-09-2007 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I'll have to study the race, and watch it a few more times---but, Belmont Park is different from other places, and I'm not so sure she didn't "out-trip" Curlin.

I will save you the time...she didn't

The Indomitable DrugS 06-09-2007 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I believe that Curlins status as a freak is a little bit cloudy

To his credit---he answered the bell every time...and made a good account of himself in all three triple crown races.

From a pedigree standpoint--what he has done has been nothing short of freaky....because anyone who studies pedigree and is honest with themselves about it...knows that he's not the type of horse who's supposed to be effective at a classic distance.

But yeah, this has been a low-rated crop of 3yo males that Curlin has excelled in.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-09-2007 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I will save you the time...she didn't

Either way...her winning was slightly to my advantage.....and IMO, you really can't answer something like that with confidence so quickly.

timmgirvan 06-09-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Fillies winning Belmont, Pletcher shows emotion, Albarado riding well, Seattle picking winners....

BT's right ....the world is coming to an end! But seriously..what a talent that filly is,huh?:D

Cannon Shell 06-09-2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
To his credit---he answered the bell every time...and made a good account of himself in all three triple crown races.

From a pedigree standpoint--what he has done has been nothing short of freaky....because anyone who studies pedigree and is honest with themselves about it...knows that he's not the type of horse who's supposed to be effective at a classic distance.

But yeah, this has been a low-rated crop of 3yo males that Curlin has excelled in.

I guess I'm getting old but making a good account of himself doesn't really equate into freak status. He is a very good horse who has accomplished much in a short period of time but I like my freaks to win.

On another note- I think that the purchase and pending retirement of Hard Spun is one of the really distressing signs of trouble in our sport. I mean it is one thing to retire horses who WIN classic races early, but to rush horses like him to the shed without ever winning a major race is a sad thing. Not to say he wont(though I would bet against it) but he was sold for multiple grade 1 money and he is a zero time grade 1 winner.

Cannon Shell 06-09-2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Either way...her winning was slightly to my advantage.....and IMO, you really can't answer something like that with confidence so quickly.

I'm happy you won ....Curlin had a dream trip...she didn't.

Danzig 06-09-2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I guess I'm getting old but making a good account of himself doesn't really equate into freak status. He is a very good horse who has accomplished much in a short period of time but I like my freaks to win.

On another note- I think that the purchase and pending retirement of Hard Spun is one of the really distressing signs of trouble in our sport. I mean it is one thing to retire horses who WIN classic races early, but to rush horses like him to the shed without ever winning a major race is a sad thing. Not to say he wont(though I would bet against it) but he was sold for multiple grade 1 money and he is a zero time grade 1 winner.

he's running faster to the shed than he has to the finish line in these grade ones because of his pedigree--just like holy roman emperor, who didn't even start at three! it is a shame.

now you have to wonder if he runs again. i hope he does, but darley might not want him to.


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